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To: Jim 0216

Obama is for sure not a misguided Christian:

Baptist Press | March 02, 2012

Obama: Sin is what doesn’t match ‘my values’

WASHINGTON (BP) — A newly released interview from 2004 sheds light on President Obama’s faith, showing that on several major doctrinal issues — including sin, heaven and the Gospel’s exclusivity — he steps outside historic Christianity.

The one-hour interview by Cathleen Falsani was conducted when Obama was running for U.S. Senate, several months before he was introduced to the country during his 2004 Democratic National Convention speech. At the time, Falsani was a religion reporter for the Chicago-Sun Times.

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Among Obama’s most intriguing answers, he says he believes there are many paths to God. His answers on heaven and sin, though, have drawn the most discussion:

FALSANI: “Do you believe in heaven?”

OBAMA: “Do I believe in the harps and clouds and wings?”

FALSANI: “A place spiritually you go to after you die?”

OBAMA: “What I believe in is that if I live my life as well as I can, that I will be rewarded. I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing. When I tuck in my daughters at night and I feel like I’ve been a good father to them, and I see in them that I am transferring values that I got from my mother and that they’re kind people and that they’re honest people, and they’re curious people, that’s a little piece of heaven.”

FALSANI: “Do you believe in sin?”

OBAMA: “Yes.”

FALSANI: “What is sin?”

OBAMA: “Being out of alignment with my values.”

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Asked who Jesus is to him, Obama answered, “Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he’s also a wonderful teacher. I think it’s important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history.”

https://townhall.com/news/religion/2012/03/02/obama-sin-is-what-doesnt-match-my-values-n889641


23 posted on 03/19/2018 10:58:27 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
on several major doctrinal issues — including sin, heaven and the Gospel’s exclusivity — he steps outside historic Christianity

So are a lot of misguided Christians. God's people today are much like how Jesus saw God's people 2000 years ago: "as sheep having no shepherd" Matt 9:36.

he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith

Not too far off there...

26 posted on 03/19/2018 11:18:24 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Fantasywriter

In this interview BHO articulates views that are pretty common in so called mainstream American Protestanism. The Salvation by Works idea is even held by many pseudp Evangelicals. His view of Jesus is spot on with much of the so called mainstream Protestant churches.


64 posted on 03/19/2018 3:41:10 PM PDT by robowombat
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