Posted on 09/10/2019 5:47:11 PM PDT by marshmallow
ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE (Reuters) - Pope Francis said on Tuesday he prayed that dissent from American Catholic conservatives would not lead to a schism in the Church and that he was willing to listen to critics and make corrections if necessary.
But in frank comments to reporters aboard the plane returning to Rome from a trip to Africa, he said he was not afraid of a schism. Some of his critics had allowed political ideology to infiltrate religious doctrine, he said.
It was the first time Francis has spoken so openly about the possibility of a schism in the 1.3 billion worldwide Roman Catholic Church, albeit in answer to a question.
Francis also implied that some of his critics were hypocrites for accusing him of being “a communist pope” even though he was saying the same things about social issues that had been said by the late Pope John Paul, who many conservatives consider an icon.
Francis has been the butt of criticism from a small but powerful number of American conservatives unhappy with his stands on various theological issues as well as social matters from immigration to climate change.
(Excerpt) Read more at uk.reuters.com ...
Says who? The ebb tide who resorts to specious ad hominem attacks in lieu of an argument and in avoiding answering a critical question, even as one who is no doubt esteemed among some his peers???
As opposed to the most anti-Roman Catholic on the forum who daily posts article after article against his pope in defiance of Roman Catholic dogma??
And who has abandoned faith in Christ for faith in a man-made piece of cloth (aka an idol) adorned like a lead weight around his neck?
F**k you Frankie.
Yeah; you FR Catholics.
He IS talking about YOU!!!
Or MARY; either.
The first is forgivable.
The second??
Damn near IMPOSSIBLE!
Quite different than from back in the day!
I was not addressing a question. I was challenging a false statement you had made about schisms.
I think that is a very real possibility.
If they aren’t willing to adhere to the new “rules & teachings” (in addition to all the other teachings/writings), then they could very will face a Mérindol moment themselves.
Ironically, the man overseeing that massacre was named “Francis” also.
I think he likes iconic ‘mary’.
Pope challenges priests to be like the Virgin Mary in facing a ‘crisis in identity’
You know, when Francis came on the scene, we warned them about him.
All we heard was that we were *haters* and *anti-Catholics*, that he had been mistranslated, misquoted, misunderstood, taken out of context, yada, yada, yada, when in reality, we were right.
We’re warning them this time and they are in denial and the same thing is happening. Time will tell.
Shut up.
Eh, maybe a few will come to their senses and repent and seek The Lord?
Though the more folks harden their hearts, the more they are given over to their version of reality and what they believe it to be.
All we can do is pray for them and I certainly do.
Oh, so now the US is leading the schism?
Project much, Frankie?
Yup.
^^^
>Spends literally years lambasting Lutherans online for the unforgivable sin of rejecting Roman Catholic councils.
>Rejects Roman Catholic council that he doesn’t like.
>Gets angry when people don’t take him seriously.
LOL, I was only asking what religion would get me laid.
I've never seen a protestant on this forum more defensive of Pope Francis as you. And what Catholic dogmas do I defy?
It appears you are then one who is angered.
Try smiling.
Truth hurts, doesn’t it?
I've never seen a protestant on this forum more defensive of Pope Francis as you.
I've never defended Francis. You forget, I consider the papacy as being a non-biblical position.
And what Catholic dogmas do I defy?
Vatican II for starters....and it is dogmatic for the Roman Catholic.
You may not like that but it really doesn't matter.
You've disregarded Unam Sanctam.
You've busted this one as well:
The Catholic Church teaches dogmatically that no one is allowed or able to judge the Pope. The Vatican Council (1869-70) taught dogmatically: And since the Roman Pontiff is at the head of the universal Church by the divine right of apostolic primacy, We teach and declare also that he is the supreme judge of the faithful, and that in all cases pertaining to ecclesiastical examination recourse can be had to his judgment; moreover, that the judgment of the Apostolic See, whose authority is not surpassed, is to be disclaimed by no one, nor is anyone permitted to pass judgment on its judgment. Therefore, they stray from the straight path of truth who affirm that it is permitted to appeal from the judgments of the Roman Pontiffs to an ecumenical Council, as to an authority higher than the Roman Pontiff.
(First Vatican Council, Dogmatic Constitution Pastor Aeternus, Ch. 3; Denz. 1830; underlining added.)
https://novusordowatch.org/2016/03/impossibility-judging-deposing-true-pope/
But most importantly of all...and the one that really matters...you've ignored this one by wearing that false idol around your neck:
37And He said to him, “ ‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’ 38“This is the great and foremost commandment.
Matthew 22:37 NASB
(THE words in caps are how the NASB renders quotes from the OT).
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