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John 6 focusing on the words spoken by Jesus {from the King James Version}
Biblegateway ^ | 85 AD | John

Posted on 04/14/2021 12:53:32 AM PDT by Cronos

hat Jesus said in KJV from John 6:5. Those in brackets are inferences from the text

5. Whence shall we buy bread, that these may eat?

10. Make the men sit down

(11. Thanks to God. Distribute the bread and fishes)

12. Gather up the fragments that remain, that nothing be lost. This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.

20. It is I; be not afraid.

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26. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.

27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

29. This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent

32. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.

33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

35. I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.

37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

43. Murmur not among yourselves.

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

48 I am that bread of life.

49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

53. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

61. Doth this offend you?

62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

64 But there are some of you that believe not.

65. Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

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This is the work of God - that you believe Him who He has sent.

God, My Father giveth you the true bread from heaven. For the bread of God is HE which cometh down from heaven and giveth life unto the world.

I am the bread of life

Ye also have seen me and believe not

I cam down from heaven to do the will of Him that sent me.

I am that bread of life.

This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof and not die.

I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever;

and the bread that I will give is my flesh

Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.\

For my flesh is meat indeed

He that eateth my flesh dwelleth in me

he that eateth me, even he shall live by me


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To: ADSUM
You deny the Catholic church, and only offer a few quotes but no substance to document your protestant beliefs.

Mirror, meet Adsum!

261 posted on 04/19/2021 2:27:31 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: ADSUM
And you question my understanding of the Gospel?

No, you've made it clear that you do not understand the Gospel of Grace that saves.

No questions are left after reading your statements.

262 posted on 04/19/2021 2:28:53 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: caww

History reports that Jesus established His Catholic Church and authorized the leaders to “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations...baptizing them ... teaching them all that I have commanded. Matthew 28:19-20

Catholics pray the Luminous mysteries of the Rosary on Thursday. The third mystery is “Proclamation of the Kingdom of God and the call to conversion” Mark 1:15

So Catholics are already praying for you. I will be glad to include you when I pray the Rosary.


263 posted on 04/19/2021 2:31:21 PM PDT by ADSUM ( )
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To: ADSUM
Your many posts expose your lack of understanding. The passage, for instance, where it is said 'he who endures to the end, was given to Jews regarding the end of the Tribulation and the 'elect' who survive the horrific wrath of God. Your ignorance (or the ignorance of your chosen teachers) cannot discern which passages are aimed at The Chruch (The true Ecclesia of Christ, not the man0made religion of cRomanism), and which are aimed at Israel. You probably don't understand the differences in either.

Salvation cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. The ability to hear spiritual truth is not yet in your armamentarium. But that doesn't stop your pushing your works based anathema to the Gospel of Grace.

264 posted on 04/19/2021 2:33:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ADSUM

Jesus never established the ‘Catholic’ Church...He established ‘His’ church as the body of Christ, made up of all believers regardless of their church association or location, with ‘Himself as the head of His church...

....Not a Pope, and certainly not a bunch of red Cardinals and Bishops...who are selected based on their CEO abilities in how they can contribute at running one of the largest Institutions in the World, as anything that threatens the money stream into Rome will be dealt with.


265 posted on 04/19/2021 2:39:45 PM PDT by caww ( lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. Matt:24:12)
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To: caww
Jesus never established the ‘Catholic’ Church...He established ‘His’ church as the body of Christ, made up of all believers regardless of their church association or location, with ‘Himself as the head of His church...

Truth

266 posted on 04/19/2021 2:42:10 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: MHGinTN

Time and again he pulls scripture out of context and he doesn’t appear to differentiate who it’s being addressed to either..

Why is it catholic responses always read like a catholic manual would read with chopped up scripture peppered throughout. It’s like a bunch of committee men sitting around a business table planning their agenda and at the end asking God to bless it rather than seeking His will and agenda first before they begin.


267 posted on 04/19/2021 2:47:44 PM PDT by caww ( lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. Matt:24:12)
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To: caww
and he doesn’t appear to differentiate who it’s being addressed to either..

It's a Roman thing.

I pointed out upthread somewhere that he fails to "rightly divide the Word of Truth."

But as an unsaved person, this is to be expected.

268 posted on 04/19/2021 2:51:23 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

A simple layman armed with scripture is to be believed over and above any pope or council of men without it...... Neither the church nor the pope can establish articles of faith, these must come from scripture...the authority of the Bible. And it is these which even today separate Protestants from Catholics.


269 posted on 04/19/2021 2:52:45 PM PDT by caww ( lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. Matt:24:12)
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To: Elsie

What a scary place to be!

Frankly I’d say it’s by design. If it was difficult for the Savior it ought to be just a bit of effort for mankind don’t you think. If you do you might be able to devise more than a few words in answer.

In the interest of the considerable confusion born again, and other variations of the Christian community have regarding being saved I pose the question, are all saved? What is the general view of saved among the Community of Confusion.

That saving has little to do with the mansion being prepared for you and the kingdom in which it exists in my opinion.

...and you continue to attempt to limit God and his Son through a book of Scripture to bolster your own case of confusion. Unbelief is rampant in the Christian world that suffers long and hard due to lack of the only messenger approved by God Almighty other than his Beloved Son.

I would say a good start might be the end of condemnation of Christians by Christians. Where civil conversation of Doctrine can take place without rancour and Christian’s in general can live in peace with one another despite their differences and confusion. Difficult task when one is certain of things Doctrinal.

Not everyone can be right.


270 posted on 04/19/2021 2:53:34 PM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: Elsie

Mormonism claims HE has been back ALREADY??

Sorry that would be a deception on you part and not scriptural at all in light of how the Second coming is described. I certainly don’t regard the word second to be binding on the Eternal Father who is the only one who know the day and the hour of Christ’s TRIUMPHANT return, IN HIS GLORY. When the wicked will not survive the experience.

You might want to contemplate how many times he may have appeared to man over the thousands of years of the world’s existance. Especially consider standing before him with a Bible in your hand ready to argue the point.


271 posted on 04/19/2021 3:02:26 PM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: wita

You s[pittle forth MORMON CULT nonsense. The Apostles were men approved by God With Us. Joe Smith is not and never could be a man approved because he was never in possession of the spirit of God. But his father of lies has constructed a fable which people are duped by and on their way to Hell for.


272 posted on 04/19/2021 3:27:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: wita

BTW, the word int he Greek which you and your false prophet have cited as ‘mansions’ actually means rooms, liker rooms above a pub or a motel rtoom for temporary dwelling.


273 posted on 04/19/2021 3:28:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: wita

Elsie has probably forgotten more Biblical truth than you are likely to ever comprehend as a cult member of Mormonism.


274 posted on 04/19/2021 3:32:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: LibertyWoman

Nope


275 posted on 04/19/2021 4:05:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wita
I asked for your opinion.

You replied to 127, so how did you miss #126?

276 posted on 04/19/2021 4:07:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wita
I asked for your opinion.

If I have not told you before, I will now: My 'opinion' isn't of much value.

I tend to post what the BIBLE says on things.

277 posted on 04/19/2021 4:09:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wita
You might want to contemplate how many times he may have appeared to man over the thousands of years of the world’s existance. Especially consider standing before him with a Bible in your hand ready to argue the point.

I can't figure out whether this qualifies for a Red Herring category or a Rabbit Hole one.

You can look in YOUR bible (It's the first set of Scriptures in your Quad) and see what Christ's return to earth will be like.

Coming as a speechless Personage, floating in the air, is nowhere to be found.

278 posted on 04/19/2021 4:13:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

What did I have for supper last night?


279 posted on 04/19/2021 4:14:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wita
...and you continue to attempt to limit God and his Son through a book of Scripture to bolster your own case of confusion.

Hey, I can only go by what's in the Book.

Like...

"It is finished."

and


2 Peter 1:3

His divine power has given us everything we need
for a godly life through our knowledge of him
who called us by his own glory and goodness.

280 posted on 04/19/2021 4:21:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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