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To: ADSUM; Mark17; metmom; MHGinTN; boatbums

“ We need to be in the state of grace when we die for our eternal salvation.

Well since you’re Roman, I guess that’s what your religion teaches. Plus indulgences, repetition of prayers, holy water, pantheon of demigods and the head demigoddess, and so much more.

But for the saved believer, every sin has already been included on the cross, he is sealed to the day of redemption - the Spirit given as a down payment, held in the hand of Christ, and positionally seated in the heavenlies with Him now… and so much more.

I picked the better biblical option, the second choice.

I am saved.
I am being transformed on earth.
I will be translated to be like Him when I see Him.
I will stand at the Bema seat to give an account of my life -.where my works done after the new birth are tested by fire.
Gold and silver will remain.
“He himself will be saved.”

Sucks to be Roman. But it’s a choice.


358 posted on 04/20/2021 10:06:26 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; metmom; boatbums; Roman_War_Criminal
Sucks to be Roman. But it’s a choice.

Assurance of salvation is a beautiful thing. 😁 I can’t believe we were once involved in this. It was a choice then, it’s a choice now. 👍

389 posted on 04/20/2021 5:17:28 PM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force combat pilot )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Just before his Ascension, our Lord told his apostles, “Go, therefore, and
make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and
of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have
commanded you” (Matt. 28:19–20).

If we want to observe all that Jesus commanded, if we want to believe all he taught, we must follow him through his Church. This is our great
challenge—and our great privilege.

The Eucharist: Eternal Life Incarnate
Just before he went to the cross, Jesus instituted the Eucharist—a name derived from the Greek word for thanksgiving (eucharistia).

In this sacrament, a priest takes bread and wine and—by God’s miraculous power—they are transformed into Christ’s body, blood, soul, and divinity, according to the words of Jesus himself. St. Paul explains,

For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”

In the same way also the chalice, after supper, saying, “This chalice is the new covenant in
my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me” (1 Cor. 11:23– 25; cf. 10:16).

“This is my body. . . . This is my blood.” Those are bold words, and when Jesus first announced the Eucharist, people found it hard to accept. But Jesus was adamant:

Jesus was willing to lose disciples if they did not accept this teaching (John 6:66)


473 posted on 04/22/2021 3:49:02 PM PDT by ADSUM ( )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; ADSUM; Mark17; metmom; MHGinTN; boatbums
aMpu -- ADSUM is a Wisconsinite, he ain't from Rome

Christ taught His disciples and they taught us that we need to be in the state of grace when we die for our eternal salvation

Gal. 5:19-21 19 [a]Now the works of the flesh are obvious: immorality, impurity, licentiousness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, rivalry, jealousy, outbursts of fury, acts of selfishness, dissensions, factions, 21 occasions of envy,[b] drinking bouts, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

and 1 Cor. 3:12–16

12 If anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, 13 the work of each will come to light, for the Day[a] will disclose it. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire [itself] will test the quality of each one’s work. 14 If the work stands that someone built upon the foundation, that person will receive a wage. 15 But if someone’s work is burned up, that one will suffer loss; the person will be saved,[b] but only as through fire. 16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

Sanctifying grace dwells in the believers soul and is nourished by God through the Eucharist

This builds us up in the state of grace to be in the presence of All-grace - God.

1,474 posted on 05/17/2021 5:34:33 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; ADSUM
Then you go on about the Bema seat

Don't you know that in Mark 27 it is Pilate who sits on the Bema seat, the same in John 19:13 and in Acts 25:10 it is of the imperator

Doesn't this show that your belief system, amPu, is not Christians but pagan?

are you Christian or pagan believing in the Bema seat?

1,475 posted on 05/17/2021 5:38:29 AM PDT by Cronos
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