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Is there any Religion that considers Abortion on Demand (ie. not for medical reasons) acceptable?
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Posted on 05/07/2022 10:40:20 AM PDT by RangerM

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To: RangerM

Sure. The Church of Liberalism.


21 posted on 05/07/2022 11:32:42 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: RangerM

IN THE DRUIDICAL RELIGION OF LIBERALISM, NOT SEPARATING YOUR RECYCLABLES IS A SIN, BUT ABORTION IS JUST A MEDICAL PROCEDURE. - ANN COULTER

No, Ann, the chief sacrament.


22 posted on 05/07/2022 11:33:01 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: RangerM
In the '90s our local newspaper comments had some great debates. It was well moderated so trolls and screamers were quickly deleted. Finally one could actually talk with the left. They would often challenge pro-life with "What exactly is it in your CHRISTIAN religion that is against abortion?"

I would explain: Psalm 139:13 says "For You created my innermost parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb," which I understand in the pro-life context as Biblical confirmation of a real baby in the womb. But anyone from any religion or no religion can independently verify that information with 4D ultrasound. You don't need the Christian religion to understand that.

Also, Exodus 20:13 says "You shall not murder." However, most religions and people of no religion believe that murder is wrong independently of the Christian religion.

So 1. It's a baby. 2. Don't kill it" is something Christians believe in but most non-Christians also believe the same thing.
23 posted on 05/07/2022 11:34:07 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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To: RangerM

Many of the mohammedan sects.


24 posted on 05/07/2022 11:34:10 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

The worshippers of Molech; https://www.britannica.com/topic/Moloch-ancient-god


25 posted on 05/07/2022 11:57:03 AM PDT by LuigiBonnafini
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To: LuigiBonnafini

Thought that was just what I said. :)


26 posted on 05/07/2022 11:57:42 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
..."Child sacrifice went out with Moloch worship"...

In real worship of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, of the Bible, you only have YHVH worship, and everything else. Everything else is put in the Babylonian camp. It doesn't matter if you call god Zeus, Jupiter, Baal, Moloch, or Allah, it all falls into the same bucket if it doesn't align with Scriptures.

A careful study of Solomon will show he broke every law in Deuteronomy 17 on "Laws Concerning Israel's Kings". He married 700 wives and 300 concubines and none of them were Hebrews. They all brought their religions with them and Solomon allowed them to build altars in Israel, even on top of the Temple in Jerusalem. They sacrificed children on these altars. Whose children do you think these women sacrificed? God specifically commanded that His seed NOT be sacrificed to Baal. God is telling you that your children belong to Him and that you are a caretaker for them. Solomon had his own copy of the Torah that he was commanded to write and was supposed to read it every day.

As soon as Solomon died, Israel was broken into two countries and given two kings. The northern Kingdom was run by a son that made up his own religion and worshiped a calf and made non Levite priests that worshiped on the wrong Feast Days. Baal and Moloch are specifically mentioned in Scripture but are just names given to pagan gods that God wanted to destroy. No where in Scripture will you ever find a baby given to a woman as a curse. They are always described as a blessing. People would sacrifice their unwanted children thinking sacrificing them would give them better crops, or more money, or better health. Abortion today is just Baal worship and cannot be associated with anything from YHWH.

It's really no different that somehow finding sodomy is accepted by God and the church. You can listen to these faux Christians today trying to throw Franklin Graham out of England because he preaches "hate". They are making up their own gods just as if they carved him out of wood or a stone. It's the same god that can get you to heaven by other means than Jesus, aka, Allah.

27 posted on 05/07/2022 11:57:43 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: nwrep

You’ve gotta give them their due; they had RvW a thousand years before us:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_and_abortion


28 posted on 05/07/2022 12:00:20 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: nwrep

Jainism, however, apparently strictly forbids it:

https://www.quora.com/What-does-Jain-doctrine-say-about-abortion


29 posted on 05/07/2022 12:06:57 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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"I would explain: Psalm 139:13 says "For You created my innermost parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb," which I understand in the pro-life context as Biblical confirmation of a real baby in the womb. But anyone from any religion or no religion can independently verify that information with 4D ultrasound. You don't need the Christian religion to understand that. Also, Exodus 20:13 says "You shall not murder." However, most religions and people of no religion believe that murder is wrong independently of the Christian religion. "

Indeed if the product of conception is human, then it falls under “Thou shalt not murder.” And so it is:

If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him [manslaughter]; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief [intentional murder] follow, then thou shalt give life for life, (Exodus 21:22-23)

Thou shalt not kill [murder]. (Exodus 20:13)

And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Behold, thou art with child [pregnant], and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the Lord hath heard thy affliction. (Genesis 16:11)

And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb [in her sixth month]; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: (Luke 1:41) For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy. (Luke 1:44)

And that from a child [same Greek word for “babe” above] thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. (2 Timothy 3:15)

30 posted on 05/07/2022 12:18:02 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save U + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: chuckles

Yup, I agree with all that. We create false gods every time we replace God’s laws with our own likes and dislikes, and say “God approves”. It’s all the same, and in the end it’s Satan pulling the final strings. We all march to the beat of one drummer or the other.


31 posted on 05/07/2022 12:40:07 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: 9YearLurker

I should hope so. The Jainist sweep the bugs away so they don’t step on them!


32 posted on 05/07/2022 1:05:59 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307

The karma must be good as they are also massively successful in business.


33 posted on 05/07/2022 1:14:18 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: nwrep
Yes, Hinduism (like many pantheist religions) does not have the concept of "Imago Dei", i.e. humans created in the image of God, endowed with a special dignity. Instead, it is an animistic religion, with divinity attributed to various animals (e.g. cows).

That doesn't seem consistent with what I understand of Hinduism. As far as I know, Hindus no more think that a cow is a god than they think an elephant is a god. The god Kamadhenu is represented by a cow...but that's a long way from saying that every cow is Kamadhenu (Similarly, Ganesha is represented by an elephant, but there is no Hindu that I know of who'd think that every elephant is Ganesha). Just as no Buddhist in the world thinks that every Buddha statue is the Buddha and no Christian in the world thinks that every statue of Jesus is actually Jesus.

As far as your "Imago Dei" comment, it's a little complicated.

Nota Bene: I am a Christian who lives in a Theravada Buddhist country (with a lot of the culture deriving from the Hindu Khmer kingdom), so while I don't believe their teachings, I've had to come to some understanding of both.

As far as Imago Dei, the belief is definitely different, but they do 100% believe in an immortal soul. They also believe that this soul will go through multiple lives on the path towards enlightenment and removal of all attachments (at which point, they can get off the reincarnation train and enjoy heaven). Again, before you attack me, see the Nota Bene above.

Abortion is strongly proscribed in both Hinduism and Theravada Buddhism (as well as Jainism, as far as I know) because of this belief. Because the woman is interfering with the immortal soul of another person from progressing along that path. Again, see Nota Bene above.

Abortion is one of the sins that will cause a person to end up in Naraka (hell) for eternity. Here are a couple of depictions...the first is the penalty for abortion that's the result of sexual immorality...the second is the penalty for an abortion the result of causing physical trauma to herself. Both images are probably not appropriate for FR, so I included them as links, not embedded images. They are both from a "hell garden" (someplace kids are taken for a warning to be good).

34 posted on 05/07/2022 5:54:42 PM PDT by markomalley (Directive 10-289 is in force)
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To: 9YearLurker

Good to know, yay them!


35 posted on 05/07/2022 5:57:15 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Gay State Conservative

“More and more people who call themselves “Christians” also love it...” but they’ve already thrown Jesus under the bus in favor of their politics, so what’s a heap of tiny corpses in the face of that?


36 posted on 05/08/2022 1:00:10 AM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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