Posted on 03/30/2002 7:53:37 PM PST by malakhi
| Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams |
Thank you! Is there a thread that reveals these new software features or are only the chosen given this information. ;-)
Christ through his teachings and then those of the apostles, gave us a simple formula to obtain salvation.
If we believe the Father sent his Son to experience humanity,
and to die for our sins,
and to be resurrected the third day,
and that his blood sacrifice would cleans us of all our sins,
if we repent and ask Christ to come into our lives,
and indwell us with his the Holy Spirit,
that will teach us and direct us in the way we should live..
That’s the plan of salvation, with no frills or complicated words. That’s all we need to be saved and inherit the kingdom of God.
In 1908, a man named Henry Ford introduced the first commercially built auto in history, and called it the “Model T” Ford.
It had an engine
A transmission
Drive train
Rear end
Wheels/tires
Brakes
Accelerator
Steering mechanism
A roof
A seat
These 10 essentials made up a car, that would take you from point A, to point B, and it was the basic ingredient of every car built since then.
The Model T, was a good example of simplicity, as was Christ plan of salvation, it was everything we needed to become mobile or saved.
Years later, Ford built the Model A, then later came other models, with bigger engines, more room, better riding, faster, an option of colors besides black, chrome bumpers and fender moldings and on and on, but it’s purpose was still to get you from point A, to point B.
Over the years, autos have gone from $360.00 for a new Model T, to upward of $100.000.00, and guess what they now have?
An engine
A transmission
Drive train
Rear end
Wheels/tires
Brakes
Accelerator
Steering mechanism
A roof
A seat
And it still simply gets us from point A, to point B.
The commercialized Churches have taken the simple basics of salvation, which was..
If we believe the Father sent his Son to experience humanity,
and to die for our sins,
and to be resurrected the third day,
and that his blood sacrifice would cleans us of all our sins,
if we repent and ask Christ to come into our lives,
and indwell us with his the Holy Spirit,
that will teach us and direct us in the way we should live..
They have added hundreds of accessories, beliefs, doctrine, customs and requirements, and it has become complicated and expensive, but it is still simply God’s plan of salvation, like the auto, that takes you from point A, to B, or from being a sinner to being saved.
Have a good Passover week, and Resurrection Sunday. (^g^) JH
And Hi to you WS, glad to see you on this new thread, and I hope you had a good ??????Easter/Passover/Good Friday/ Resurrection/week. Lol
The problem is, if I use an RV in the analogy, it then starts getting as complicated as the organized Churches have already made it, and my point was simplicity. (^g^)JH
Then Uncle said with a wink, "Don't go dissin' nobody's momma...."
We use the Gregorian rather than the Julian calendar to track holy days. The Julian is one of the RC innovations that you and the other NC's like to rail against. I'm surprised you don't go off them about it more. We're still in the midst of Lent, and Orthodox Pascha isn't until May 5.
The problem is, if I use an RV in the analogy, it then starts getting as complicated as the organized Churches.
Quite. It would be wonderful if everything was simpler. Bibles would be brief enough that they wouldn't need to be on onionskin paper. Too bad the reality is different.
BTW, I bought a new Bible last week, first in awhile. It's been a treat - God led me to a good choice, and it's become my constant companion. KJV. God bless.
Look out there WS, people will start thinking your going hipper fundamental. :)
Happy Easter to you and yours.
BigMack
It's human nature for us to always go beyond necessity to the point of fanaticism on anything we love, and we have a hard time remembering, 1 Cor 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
I believe men have every right to believe they belong to the true church of Christ, and feel blessed that their church so closely matches their idea of what the church Christ founded would become.
If we can't say that about the Church we belong to, then there is something wrong, but we could not all function in the same Church, referring of course to organizations, and not the assembly Christ founded.
In that church, we are all members, it the accessories that differ among us, and one who has simplistic faith cannot feel superior to those who have over the years, complicated and added things that others have not, and made it more works orientated, and neither can those who have more outward signs, feel smug as though God is going to be more pleased that they go through more rituals then the other, when it's what is in our heart that God sees.
BTW, I bought a new Bible last week, first in awhile. It's been a treat - God led me to a good choice, and it's become my constant companion. KJV. God bless.
Lol. I know the feeling, I buy a new bible every time I go through a spiritual growth change, and the one I started using a few month ago was my 4th, and may I say, this one has large print. hahaha
They have bible marking pencils out now that have an extendible color stick, that you can buy refills for, they come in most colors, and the nice thing about them is they don't bleed through to the other side of the page.
The ones I prefer are made by "Sanford", and there called "Accent Dry Pencil" and there made especially for Bibles, I get them at most religious bookstores.
The pen with one highlighter with it cost I think $2.35, and the refills are .95 cents ea. and they last for ages.
I'm surprised at how much more I use my computer Bible program, then my actual Bible though, and that worries me a little.
At least the RC's can't accuse us of worshipping our computer Bible, or can they? Lol
Our church has the Scoffield reference Study Bible, on the backs of all the seats, so when the minister gives out scripture, he can just give the page number, and he doesn't have to wait until everyone catches up with him, although I still prefer doing it the old fashioned way.
Wow, did I filibuster or what, lol (^g^) JH
Thanks, I'll have to check these out. I use a good ol' #2 pencil. Probably have to hunt - big surprise, there's no Christian bookstore in the vicinity of Amherst.
AMEN!
RobbyS, Who in your Church has the authority to straighten this mess out? JH
I should probably let a Roman Catholic answer this, but I think the first answer is the Holy Spirit.
Now if the question is what human being has the authority to straighten the mess out in the Catholic Church -- there is no doubt in my mind -- from the outside mind you -- that Mother Angelica the TV nun is the one who should clean house.
It requires the proper translation of the verse to understand at Mary's request, Christ performed his first miracle
His mother's sons were what???
Just to make sure you understand where I stand on this, "MARY HAD NO CHILDREN OTHER THAN JESUS".
I believe it is you who is missing the significance of this passage.
You avoided my question as I thought you would. From the Cross Jesus told John to “Behold thy mother”. Unless you believe Mary was John’s mother, why would he say this?
It isn't necessary to read minds in order to arrive at a reasonable conclusion.
I said nothing about reading minds. Which by the way, you can't do that either. And your conclusion is not reasonable.
It is up to you to convince me that Italians as well as Catholics in the United States are either sterile or have invented a new method of "natural rythm".
It is not up to me to convince you of anything. I have already responded to you regarding this and since you entirely missed my point, there is no further need for me to say anything.
I think it should come from the top down, meaning JP11. Here I am a lifelong Catholic and from Boston - which has a huge Catholic population and I just watched Mother Angelica (a rerun show) for the first time last week. The Catholic station is only shown for a 1/2 day and then there are NC shows on for the balance of the day. I think where a lot of Catholics work during the day, she might not have the exposure - although she certainly can take up the clarion - and I think she will once she regains her health. She is certainly not cowed by the American Bishops - her actions in the past have proven that.
How about that Bishop from Nebraska? Bruskiewicz or something like that. I have read that he is a straight shooter and follows Church teaching and not the AmChurch distortions.
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