[Havoc]

Catholics and Eastern Orthodox don't have a problem distinguishing between these terms. It is the NCC's that have the problem. Period.

Oh, and btw, this is not a matter of misunderstood terms, it is understood practices. What you do is more important than what you label it. You are even slammed by the word in another instance: 1 Thessalonians 5:22 "Abstain from all appearance of evil." Wow! how deep is that? You are Flatly not allowed to commune with the dead. Ecclesiastes 9 says that the Dead have nothing to do ever with the goings on here after they die (physical death). And in absence of these things, I Thessalonians even gets you at the knees by telling you you are to abstain from things that even appear to be wrong! Where is your heart?!

[RobbyS]

Ecclesiastes 9 says that the Dead have nothing to do ever with the goings on here after they die (physical death). I think it can reasonably be assumed that The author of these words was agnostic about life after death and should be read only because he still gives good advise for living this life.

[american colleen]

1 Thessalonians 5:22 "Abstain from all appearance of evil."

Referred to as the "sin sniffers favorite verse"...

[Wordsmith]

You are Flatly not allowed to commune with the dead.

The saints are alive with God, who is God of the living.

Joh 5:25 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

[pegleg]

Ecclesiastes 9.. where have I heard it before.. hmm.

“Oh that you would keep silent, and it would be your wisdom! (Job 13:5)

Hello Havoc, I didn’t think you were speaking to me anymore.