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1 posted on 04/15/2002 10:18:55 AM PDT by H.R. Gross
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They are dispensationalists, who believe – among other things – that the colonization of the Holy Land by the children of Israel signals the second coming of Christ: the efforts of these “Christian Zionists” account for the uncritical support for Israel among many “born again” Christian conservatives.

MY support of Israel has little, if anything, to do with faith. It has everything to do with the fact that it is the only democratic state in the Middle East, is currently under attack by the same people who attacked my country, and has been an ally of my country since its modern inception. If that makes me a nutball.....

60 posted on 04/15/2002 11:39:07 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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I'm a secular non Jewish supporter of Israel.
61 posted on 04/15/2002 11:39:28 AM PDT by weikel
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Excellent post........Really get to the meat of the whole thing. Our founding fathers were so right about religion and government.
63 posted on 04/15/2002 11:43:16 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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The militant Israelis and the crazy fundamentalists are not any less lunatic than the mullah, and the fanatic Moslems. Both are crazy about this GOD thing! They seem to be talking to God a lot on his “unpublished” number? They read their books with a different color glass than the rest of us. They interpret things and extrapolate things to meet their POLITICAL objectives. God is probably laughing his--- off looking down on these nut cases who are obsessed with the END, and looking forward to lit up the whole world on fire.

There is no way that you can talk sense to these Moslem fanatics, the Christian fanatics, and the Jewish fanatics. The communists had a good idea, deemphasizing religions. We don't need to go that far, but we need to impress upon the religious leaders to calm down this hysteria. Please! Religion, the way I know it, was to do good unto others, to forgive, to love. The Moslems and Jews don’t teach much of that in their house of worship, but the Christian do nothing but teaches people to be humble, and forgiving? How did these militant fundamentalists got this way, is very strange.

May I don’t want the end to come so soon, because I am afraid of this beast with seven heads and hundred eyes, and hundred tongs and yad yada yada….

69 posted on 04/15/2002 11:50:29 AM PDT by philosofy123
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@#$%&! Justin, will you please learn to stop using three pages to make a point when three paragraphs are all that is necessary?
70 posted on 04/15/2002 11:51:36 AM PDT by muleboy
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Justin "Kettle" Raimondo admonishing the pot that it is a "nutball."

72 posted on 04/15/2002 11:54:32 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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And despite my not being a religious man for a nutball p**** like Raimondo to insult Bibi the Churchill of our age borders on blasphemy.
79 posted on 04/15/2002 12:03:21 PM PDT by weikel
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This article is pure unadulterated leftist, humanist garbage. I'm ready to hit the abuse button just for seeing it posted. (but won't)
80 posted on 04/15/2002 12:03:23 PM PDT by CWRWinger
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04/11/2002 - Updated 11:05 PM ET
Rare white thoroughbred foal born in Kentucky

By Breck Smither, AP

LEXINGTON, Ky. (AP) — The excitement started when former racehorse Patchen Beauty entered labor last week to deliver her first foal.
Patchen Wilkes Farm manager Barry Ezrine was even more thrilled when he saw the small, gangly colt was pure white, just like his mother and grandmother.
88 posted on 04/15/2002 12:08:36 PM PDT by GRANGER
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These Israeli nutballs have forged a natural alliance with our Christian nutballs, who have their own theological rationale for hurrying Apocalypse along

The "red heifer thing" makes a certain amount of sense now . . .

100 posted on 04/15/2002 12:44:26 PM PDT by realpatriot71
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The author of this article needs his reality testing and research skills seriously adjusted.

Evidently he has an aversion to honor where honor is due--LIKE--***THE**** BOSS!!! . . . otherwise known as God Almighty!

Ah well, he may be more likely to learn something when they insist on injecting the chip. . . . on 2nd thought, he'll probably be first in line.

102 posted on 04/15/2002 12:50:13 PM PDT by Quix
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I always thought it was the advent of Red Bull that was a sign of the end times...


105 posted on 04/15/2002 12:53:28 PM PDT by The Green Goblin
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Just to tone down the right wing isrealis I think a tranq dart loaded with tatto ink is called for.
107 posted on 04/15/2002 12:55:50 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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These Israeli nutballs have forged a natural alliance with our Christian nutballs

I resemble that remark....

115 posted on 04/15/2002 1:10:55 PM PDT by mcsparkie
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For the record, I'm an evangelical Christian, and not a dispensationalist. Most evangelicals of all stripes are though, and the largest Protestant denomination in America is (the Southern Baptists) and these people do not fit the category of "nutball" regardless of what this atheist thinks...

Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Moa, Pol Pot, the most murderous leaders of all time (by a factor of what, 100 X???) were all atheists, correct?

127 posted on 04/15/2002 1:31:04 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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The true NUTCASE is Antiwar.com!!!! A bunch of Commie bedwetting liberals. To the group at "antiwar.com" I give this quote;

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

~~ John Stuart Mill ~~

For those who are interested ... here is the red heffer;

And, here is the quote from the Bible that people are referring to regarding the red heffer;

"Numbers 19:2-10"

"This is a requirement of the law that the Lord has commanded: Tell the Israelites to bring you a red heifer without defect or blemish and that has never been under a yoke. 3 Give it to Eleazar the priest; it is to be taken outside the camp and slaughtered in his presence. 4 Then Eleazar the priest is to take some of its blood on his finger and sprinkle it seven times toward the front of the Tent of Meeting. 5 While he watches, the heifer is to be burned-its hide, flesh, blood and offal. 6 The priest is to take some cedar wood, hyssop and scarlet wool and throw them onto the burning heifer. 7 After that, the priest must wash his clothes and bathe himself with water. He may then come into the camp, but he will be ceremonially unclean till evening. 8 The man who burns it must also wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he too will be unclean till evening. 9 "A man who is clean shall gather up the ashes of the heifer and put them in a ceremonially clean place outside the camp. They shall be kept by the Israelite community for use in the water of cleansing; it is for purification from sin. 10 The man who gathers up the ashes of the heifer must also wash his clothes, and he too will be unclean till evening. This will be a lasting ordinance both for the Israelites and for the aliens living among them."

I don't write it.. I read it. Far be it for me to interpret Gods words. My job is to obey His words. To believe. I'm 100 percent positive that believing in God, in Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit is the right way.

I'm also 100 percent positive that antiwar.com are a bunch of cowards. Their "way" has gotten us where we are today. I say to them.. thanks but no thanks. We've listened to their kind of liberal trash for too long. We are where we are today regarding our Nations security and the security of the World, because of cowardice like theirs.

This article is pure unadulterated bullcrap. Pun intended!!! (Trying to keep the "theme" thing goin here :o)

136 posted on 04/15/2002 2:09:02 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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The author can kick and scream all the way to the last battle, he can accuse people of being nut balls, he can deny, evade, zig and zag, but he will not change the course anymore than he can change the course of the Mississippi River.

I am not sure about this, but isn't it at the sacrifice of the red heifer that every Jew in the entire world must go to Isreal for the pruification or they are no longer considered Jewish or something like that?

138 posted on 04/15/2002 2:11:10 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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DON'T HAVE A COW
144 posted on 04/15/2002 2:35:23 PM PDT by Sabramerican
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Out driving Mom's taxi, I counted dozens of red cows in fields. Beef cattle...don't recognize the breed, but they are definitely RED. A bright rust color. How in the world can anyone think of this cow as rare?
168 posted on 04/15/2002 5:44:13 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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How religious nutballs could start World War III

Yeah, they might just hijack planes and race them into our capital ...

180 posted on 04/15/2002 9:37:02 PM PDT by a_witness
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