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To: Bellarmine
Yes, I am. However, you must understand that although obedience is good - Faith is better and is a virtue of higher rank. Our parents, our Priest, our Bishop or even the Pope cannot command me in obedience to do something against God or my soul. (The SSPX position as espoused by Fr. Carl)

Oh, Oh. Sounds like a "personal interpretation" problem.

This view on obedience that you call "personal interpretation" is the view of such doctors of the church as St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Robert Bellarmine. Certainly, you are not accusing them of "personal interpretation?"

As the character in Monty Python's "The Holy Grail" said "pull the other one." That response was an attempt to defend the heretical and evil idea that the Catholic Church via Pope Paul VI had promulgated a Protestant worship service and not a new Liturgy of the Mass. Do you want to defend that, Bellarmine?

If you do desire to take on that burden, be prepared to cite Aquinas and Bellarmine in support of such apostate inanity.

Remember, the first law of the church is the salvation of souls. If we obey a command contrary to the faith, the claim that we were just being obedient will not suffice on judgmement day

Everyone is a Pope EXCEPT the Pope, I guess. And I guess it is "Catholic" to think the Pope COULD promulgate a Liturgy of the Mass that is contrary to the Faith.

Bellarmine, if you think that, you ain't Catholic

60 posted on 06/04/2002 9:39:03 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy,bellarmine
Remember, the first law of the church is the salvation of souls. If we obey a command contrary to the faith, the claim that we were just being obedient will not suffice on judgmement day

Wow, did a Catholic say this, did you say this Bellarmine? WAY TO GO!!! (applause, applause)

61 posted on 06/04/2002 9:45:22 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Catholicguy

If you do desire to take on that burden, be prepared to cite Aquinas and Bellarmine in support of such apostate inanity

"Just as it is licit to resist the Pontiff who attacks the body, so also is it licit to resist him who attacks souls or destroys the civil order or above all, tries to destroy the Church. I say that it is licit to resist him by not doing what he orders and by impeding the execution of his will. It is not licit, however, to judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior." - St. Robert Bellarmine

Everyone is a Pope EXCEPT the Pope, I guess. And I guess it is "Catholic" to think the Pope COULD promulgate a Liturgy of the Mass that is contrary to the Faith.

Again see the quote above. You should know your church history a little better before you start accusing people of not being Catholic.

77 posted on 06/04/2002 10:58:34 AM PDT by Bellarmine
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