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Jean wants Scripture, not Justin Martyr.

Did you read post #13???

In verse 20:9 - Where are the saints...on earth or in heaven? What city are they in....Jerusalem or Milwaukee?

I also pointed out that Martyr is "commentary" on scripture, not that it is scripture. But it is the earliest commentary on that verse that is in existence. If we can quote Calvin, Wesley, et al, then we can certainly quote Martyr...AND we can point out his proximity to Apostolic places, events, and acquaintances.

So, you are pre-mil.

What scripture do you use to justify your pre-mil position?

A nice simple post for you:

"In verse 20:9 - Where are the saints...on earth or in heaven? What city are they in....Jerusalem or Milwaukee?"

When does verse 9 take place? Before, During or After the '1000' years?

(Hint, look at verse 7)

Jean

"What scripture do you use to justify your pre-mil position?"

Are you wanting me to dig you out of your quagmire? (Anyway, I am way too busy at present to get any more involved in this discussion, and it won't get any better for about 3 weeks.)

Even if Justin Martyr speaks of the saints ruling with Christ in Jerusalem, and not Milwaukee, why does this negate an a-mill position? Don't you expect that the new heavens, and the new earth (to include the new Jerusalem) are going to last forever?

I think that you haven't thought enough about this yet.

In verse 20:9 - Where are the saints...on earth or in heaven? What city are they in....Jerusalem or Milwaukee?

We're right here: "Even when we were dead in trespasses, [He] made us alive together with Christ... and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,..."

BTW the tense of this verse is particularly Amil:

Hebrews 12:22 But you have come (past tense) to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem,... to the festival gathering and the church of the firstborn who are (present tense) registered in heaven,... to the spirits of just men made perfect,....

There, Amill and Predestinarian all at the same time. Is this post short enough for you?

But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right had of God, from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being set apart. Evidently the Lord reigns TODAY in the midst of His enemies.