No Physical Heaven/Hell ... says the Pope?

Toledo Blade ^ | Saturday, August 14, 1999 | JUDY TARJANYI

[Quester]

Comments?

[APBaer]

"The Pope drastically lowered the temperature of hell,"

But, the queston remains:
Did it freeze over?

[Catholicguy]

Mega Knee Jerk Papal Loyalist dittoes for the Pope

[LiteKeeper]

comment later

[Tantumergo]

"Heaven, the Pope said, is neither abstraction nor a physical place"

CG do you think the Pope really denied a spatial component to heaven and hell, or has he just been misquoted?

Bearing in mind that the resurrection of the body is an article of faith, and that bodies need space or "a place" in which to exist, then I cannot believe that JPII really said this.

[exnavy]

The pope is just a man, thus, makes mistakes, like all of us do.

[rising tide]

So I am to understand that the position of the Catholic church is there is no physical Heaven or Hell.

What is the R.C. position on the physical resurection of mankind?

[Theresa]

"Bearing in mind that the resurrection of the body is an article of faith, and that bodies need space or "a place" in which to exist, then I cannot believe that JPII really said this."

We won't get our glorified bodies until the general judgement. It think the pope is talking about where we go after the individual judgement.

[St.Chuck]

It took you three years to post this story?

[drstevej]

CG: Here's the LDS flow chart...

[Quester]

It took you three years to post this story?

Just ran across it in my searchings for theories on the Heaven/Hell question.

[sinkspur]

CG do you think the Pope really denied a spatial component to heaven and hell, or has he just been misquoted?

Do glorified bodies need physical space, or do they exist metaphysically?

God is pure love, and it takes a lifelong series of conscious decisions against God to consign one to an eternity without Him.

More men will spend intensive periods in purgatory than will go to hell.

If there are people in hell, they will have made a firm decision to go there.

[Commander8]

Matthew 25:41
Matthew 25:46
Revelation 20:15
This is what the Bible, the final word in all matters of faith and practice says about Hell.
I will take the word of God over the word of a mortal any day.

[RnMomof7]

Bump

[computerjunkie]

I have seen this quoted many times: "Just because someone says there is no hell doesn't make it one degree cooler."

[RnMomof7]

:>)..

[Jefferson Adams]

Thanks for the ping - I don't come here often anymore.

I suspect that the pope is in for a surprise.

But then, as a song by a local L.A. group called Snooky Tate said, lo, these many years ago...

"He the groove

He the man

He the Pope in the Vatican

He the groove

He the man

He the Pope in the Vatican

He ain't no dope

'Cause he the Pope

He the groove

He the man

He the Pope in the Vatican..."

[RnMomof7]

Hope all is well JA...you da man:>)

[God is good]

If there is no heaven or hell, then of what use is the Catholic Church as it stands today?

Sorry folks, all those hundreds of years we've been telling you that you need to remain afraid of eternal damnation; that was all a joke. And all that effort you put into the Church to go to Heaven; that was in vain.

Could we be any denser?

[ppaul]

The pope is just a man, thus, makes mistakes, like all of us do.

Yeah.
But he is also venerated as the "Vicar of Christ", something no ordinary man can claim with authority on this earth.