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Posted on 10/12/2002 1:59:34 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: xzins; RochesterFan; Woodkirk; RnMomof7; Catholicguy
Bump for read
To: Dr. Eckleburg
Bump for read
To: fortheDeclaration; JHavard; Havoc; OLD REGGIE; Iowegian; glory; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; ...
"We must obey God rather than men" (Acts 5:29). Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men.
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Luther ..Father of the Reformation bump
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posted on
10/12/2002 3:43:37 PM PDT
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RnMomof7
To: RnMomof7
Luther didn't reform enough for my satisfaction. But I suppose it was a good start.
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posted on
10/12/2002 3:55:55 PM PDT
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Iowegian
To: Iowegian
He was a man that was willing to speak the truth to authority.....a tool in Gods hand... not perfect..but willing and that is all God asks of us:>)
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10/12/2002 4:06:53 PM PDT
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RnMomof7
To: RnMomof7
True. He gets an A for courage IMO.
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10/12/2002 4:08:57 PM PDT
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Iowegian
To: fortheDeclaration
The Galatians had received from Paul the wisdom of justification before God by faith in Christ alone. Paul never said "alone." In reality, the only time alone appears with the word faith in the original Greek text is in James 2:24 where it says we are not saved by faith alone.
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posted on
10/12/2002 4:52:15 PM PDT
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WriteOn
To: RnMomof7
To: Jeremiah Jr
Interesting ...thanks...It makes sense in context
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posted on
10/12/2002 5:56:39 PM PDT
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RnMomof7
To: RnMomof7
Interesting. You are posting Scriptures that folks like me use concerning Exclusive Psalmody..:)
To: WriteOn
Friend, you should read John 6:28-29. If salvation were not by faith, it would be by works, and then it would not be a gift, it would be earned. And if wee could earn salvation, then Christ died for nothing. Read Galatians 3: 1-14 with an open heart.
To: RnMomof7
"We must obey God rather than men" (Acts 5:29). Hey, Momof7.........biggety bump.........
To: Zack Nguyen
Faith without works is dead. We are not saved by works, true...but if our faith fails to show the manifistation in our works, then our faith is counterfit. Salvation is a gift from God, but Salvation presupposes that the saved is following the example of Christ in his works, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, taking care of the sick...etc. Jesus himself said that if you failed to do these things you would be cast out weeping and nashing your teeth.
One final note...show me the biblical passage that is the basis for "Scripture alone". The doctrine of "Sola Scripturi" is itself scripturally flawed.
To: Zack Nguyen; RnMomof7
If salvation were not by faith, it would be by works, and then it would not be a gift, it would be earned. And if we could earn salvation, then Christ died for nothing.Bump for a simple, profound statement of truth.
To: fortheDeclaration
An uncompromising bump. 8~)
To: WriteOn
Paul never said "alone." In reality, the only time alone appears with the word faith in the original Greek text is in James 2:24 where it says we are not saved by faith alone.You made me smile..you defend Scot changing a word that changes the entire meaning of a phrase and a situation..but correct Dec on the word ALONE
Rom 9:32 Wherefore? Because [they sought it] not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Rom 9:33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Rom 4:16 Therefore [it is] of faith, that [it might be] by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Jhn 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
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posted on
10/13/2002 4:43:52 AM PDT
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RnMomof7
To: Dr. Eckleburg; Zack Nguyen
Everyone wants to make God their debtor..I have a debt i can never pay:>)
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10/13/2002 5:30:41 AM PDT
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RnMomof7
To: daffyduct
Agree with your first paragraph - faith without works equals no saving faith.
Regarding Sola Scriptura, it simply means that the Bible is itself completely inerrant, and the final arbiter of doctrine and the guide of our faith. If not Scripture, what else would we turn to? Scripture was itself revealed by the Holy Spirit. And if it was written by the Holy Spirit and not by man, then what should we hold up as its equal?
To: daffyduct
For more on this matter, you might consult Matthew 15: 3-6. Jesus response to the Pharisees concerning the Word of God as being superior to any of their traditions.
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