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To: Diago; narses; Loyalist; BlackElk; american colleen; saradippity; Polycarp; Dajjal; ...
Please read this story. It goes way beyond the usual abuse scandal and spotlights the deeper connection between the destruction of the Catholic liturgy and the homosexuals in the Church.

To call Huels "influential" is an understatement. This guy has been involved with everything you hate about modern liturgies. Most importantly, he (and his "mentor") first proposed the policy of "creating a path by walking on it." In other words, "just go ahead and do things that are forbidden and eventually the Church will approve them." This policy has been wildly successful in bringing us everything from altar girls to hand-holding during the Our Father.

The important point is not that he fell into sin and then had his accuser removed from the order. The important point is that he has been revealed as a revolutionary. It's clear that we have anti-Catholic revolutionaries burrowed into important clerical positions all across the world, causing uncountable damage to the Church. One of them has been exposed. We should look carefully at all of his connections and assume that wittingly or unwittingly, they are all tainted.

For example, Peter Vere is a supposed canon law expert who is making a career out of attacking traditionalists. In The Wanderer and on Stephen Hand's website he poses as a "conservative" who is attacking those who have gone too far to the right. But he has written several paeons in praise of Fr. Huels and has enthused that "everything he knows about Canon Law he learned from Huels." Vere might not be a homosexual, but he has made it clear that he's swallowed Huel's philosophy hook, line and sinker.

2 posted on 10/14/2002 9:26:10 AM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
For example, Peter Vere is a supposed canon law expert who is making a career out of attacking traditionalists. In The Wanderer and on Stephen Hand's website he poses as a "conservative" who is attacking those who have gone too far to the right. But he has written several paeons in praise of Fr. Huels and has enthused that "everything he knows about Canon Law he learned from Huels." Vere might not be a homosexual, but he has made it clear that he's swallowed Huel's philosophy hook, line and sinker

<> He has not. Please cite a single instance to back up that charge. Please show where Vere has promoted what Huels promoted.

The fact is that Vere, rightly, quit the schism. You might not be a homosexual, but can you show me where Vere apes Huels in promoting liturgical or ecclesiastical anomie?<>

4 posted on 10/14/2002 9:43:48 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Sursum Corda; Maximilian
For example, Peter Vere is a supposed canon law expert who is making a career out of attacking traditionalists. In The Wanderer and on Stephen Hand's website he poses as a "conservative" who is attacking those who have gone too far to the right. But he has written several paeons in praise of Fr. Huels and has enthused that "everything he knows about Canon Law he learned from Huels." Vere might not be a homosexual, but he has made it clear that he's swallowed Huel's philosophy hook, line and sinker.

Sursum Corda,

To your knowledge, has Pete responded to these charges, on his CLOG blog or elsewhere?

10 posted on 10/14/2002 10:48:08 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Maximilian
How interesting.Huels and his mentor first proposed the policy of "creating a path by walking on it".

I have been commenting on various threads about the great number of nonCatholic bishops appointed in the 70's initiated by the Apostolic Nuncio,Jean Jadot.I think he was able to introduce bishops whose "mentors" had been infiltrated into the seminaries earlier in the century by enemies whose agenda was to destroy the Catholic Church.

The former bishop of Phoenix was just such a person.It was recently disclosed that he spent time trollng for teen-age boys in a neighboring diocese while he was bishop,no less.It was recently noted that the motto he adopted upon becoming bishop was "To Prepare the Way."At the time it had no particular significance to most Catholics. In retrospect it was probably telegraphing his intentions to others in the know.I think everyone on these threads whose bishop was ordained in the 70's should look up the motto he chose,I'll bet we will learn much about the enemies game plan that might be helpful right now.

11 posted on 10/14/2002 10:48:12 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: Maximilian
Oh dear! I will read the article and file it away. I will not comment on it because it pains me so much to see Catholics who are not liberal dissenters rip each other to pieces over who is the more orthodox among us. Seems that these things result in much infighting and sometimes name calling, not my cup of tea. Just my .02

Peter Vere's blogspot

12 posted on 10/14/2002 10:55:32 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: Maximilian
Why do the Church's greatest enemies always seem to be within? Why do we have to fight so hard just to be able to offer to our children authentic Catholicism?
24 posted on 10/14/2002 11:58:23 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Maximilian
Thank you, Maximilian for posting such an important article. Bookmarked for permanent reference.

Fr. Huels has done to the liturgy what Fr. "Dick" Vosko has done to our beautiful churches -

he has WRECKOVATED it.

They're all beginning to surface, one by one. The connections should be obvious as the links are drawn. A closer look at the bishops who readily implemented these changes should warrant more scrutiny as well, for possible collusion.

The history of this era has dramatically shown that an "interpretation" by a few has lasting consequences for the many.

These can be reversed but only with the removal of those bishops, like Hubbard and Clark, who instituted these reforms many years ago.

43 posted on 10/14/2002 1:43:24 PM PDT by NYer
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