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Grace vs Works!
Good News Unlimited ^ | November 2002 | Editorial

Posted on 11/16/2002 1:02:27 PM PST by f.Christian

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To: f.Christian
Drudgery is comes about from not understanding the relationship between works, suffering and the mystical Body of Christ. Everyone who proclaims the uselessness of works, devotion flirts with Antinomianism:


Antinomianism

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Antinomianism (Greek anti,"against"; nomos,"law") is the doctrine that faith in Christ frees the Christian from obligation to observe the moral law as set forth in the Old Testament. The insistence in the Epistles of St. Paul upon the inadequacy of the law to save, and upon salvation by faith without "works of the law" or "deeds of righteousness" (see Romans 3:20, 28; Ephesians 2:9; 2 Timothy 2:9; Titus 3:5) could easily be interpreted as a claim of freedom from all obligation to obey the moral law. Thus, righteous persons might well hold such a doctrine and behave in an exemplary way, not from compulsion but from a devotion higher than the law. Gross and vicious persons, however, might well interpret the exemption from obligation as positive permission to disregard the moral law in determining their conduct.

Such concepts had evidently begun in the apostles' own day, as appears from the arguments and warnings in the epistles of the New Testament (see Romans 6, 8; 1 Peter 3:5). The term was first used during theReformation by Martin Luther to describe the opinions of the German preacher Johann Agricola. The Antinomian Controversy of this time, in which Luther took a very active part, terminated in 1540 in a retraction by Agricola. Views more extreme than his were afterward advocated by some of the English nonconformists and by the Anabaptists.


Antinomianism

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The word comes from the Greek anti (against) and nomos (law), and refers to the doctrine that it is not necessary for Christians to preach and / or obey the moral law of the OT. There have been several different justifications for this view down through the centuries.

Some have taught that once persons are justified by faith in Christ, they no longer have any obligation toward the moral law because Jesus has freed them from it. A variant of this first position is that since Christ has raised believers above the positive precepts of the law, they need to be obedient only to the immediate guidance of the Holy Spirit, who will keep them from sin.

A second view has been that since the law came from the Demiurge (as in Gnosticism) and not from the true, loving Father, it was a Christian's duty to disobey it.

Third, others have said that since sin is inevitable anyway, there is no need to resist it. An extension of this view is the contention of some that since God, in his eternal decree, willed sin, it would be presumptuous to resist it. Finally, still others have opposed the preaching of the law on the grounds that it is unnecessary and, indeed, contrary to the gospel of Jesus Christ.

It was the first of these views that the apostle Paul had to address in various letters to Christian churches in the first century. For example, there were those in the Corinth church who taught that once people were justified by faith, they could engage in immorality since there was no longer any obligation to obey the moral law (1 Cor. 5 - 6). Paul also had to correct others who obviously had drawn wrong conclusions from his teachings on justification and grace (e.g., Rom. 3:8, 31). Paul himself agonized over his own inability to meet the law's demands, but also exalted it as holy, spiritual, and good (Rom. 7). Elsewhere he taught that the law was the schoolmaster who brings sinners to a knowledge of their sin and therefore to Christ (Gal. 3:24). He concluded that the proper relationship was that of the stipulated works of the law flowing from the experience of saving grace rather than vice versa (Rom. 6 - 8).

Perhaps the most extreme form of antinomianism in early Christianity found expression in the Adamite sect in North Africa. The Adamites flourished in the second and third centuries, called their church "Paradise," condemned marriage because Adam had not observed it, and worshiped in the nude.

Many Gnostics in the first centuries of the Christian era held the second of these variations of antinomianism, that the Demiurage, not the true God, gave the moral law; therefore it should not be kept. Some forms of antinomian Gnosticism survived well into the Middle Ages. Moreover, various medieval heretical groups preached Corinthian - style freedom from the law, some going so far as to claim that even prostitution was not sinful for the spiritual person.

The two most famous antinomian controversies in Christian history occurred in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, and involved Martin Luther and Anne Hutchinson, respectively. In fact, it was Luther who actually coined the word "antinomianism" in his theological struggle with his former student, Johann Agricola. In the early days of the Reformation, Luther had taught that, after NT times, the moral law had only the negative value of preparing sinners for grace by making them aware of their sin. Agricola denied even this function of the law, believing that repentance should be induced only through the preaching of the gospel of salvation by grace through faith in Christ.

This first major theological controversy in Protestant history lasted intermittently from 1537 to 1540. During this time Luther began to stress the role of the law in Christian life and to preach that it was needed to discipline Christians. He also wrote an important theological treatise to refute antinomianism once and for all: Against the Antinomians (1539). The whole matter was finally settled for Lutheranism by the Formula of Concord in 1577, which recognized a threefold use of the law: (1) to reveal sin, (2) to establish general decency in society at large, and (3) to provide a rule of life for those who have been regenerated through faith in Christ.

There were several outbreaks of antinomianism in the Puritan movement in seventeenth century England. However, the major controversy over this teaching among Puritans came in New England in the 1630s in connection with an outspoken woman named Anne Marbury Hutchinson, who emigrated to Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1634. At the time, the New England Puritans were attempting to clarify the place of "preparation for conversion" in covenant (or federal) theology. They had come to the conclusion that salvation lay in fulfilling the conditions of God's covenant with humankind, including preparation for justification and a conscious effort toward sancitification. To some, including Hutchinson, this seemed like an overemphasis on the observance of the law, and she condemned it as a "covenant of works." Instead, she stressed the "covenant of grace," which she said was apart from the works of the law. She began to hold informal meetings in her home to expound her views and to denounce those of the preachers in Massachusetts.

In the context of the great stress of the times, it was only a few years before the civil war erupted in England and the colony lived in tense frontier circumstances, the New England clergy probably misunderstood her main concerns and overreacted to what they perceived to be a threat to the unity and internal security of the Puritan community. At a synod of Congregational churches in 1637 Hutchinson was condemned as an antinomian, enthusiast, and heretic, and banished from the colony. In 1638 she moved to Rhode Island.

In the twentieth century some have viewed existentialist ethics, situation ethics, and moral relativism as forms of antinomianism because these either reject or diminish the normative force of moral law. Certainly most orthodox Christians today agree that the law served the twin purposes of establishing the fact of human sin and of providing moral guidelines for Christian living. In general the various antinomian controversies in history have clarified the legitimate distinctions between law and gospel and between justification and sanctification.

The Christian community as a whole has rejected antinomianism over the years for several reasons. It has regarded the view as damaging to the unity of the Bible, which demands that one part of the divine revelation must not contradict another. Even more important, it has argued that antinomians misunderstood the nature of justification by faith, which, though granted apart from the works of the law, is not sanctification. In general, orthodoxy teaches that the moral principles of the law are still valid, not as objective strivings but as fruits of the Holy Spirit at work in the life of the believer. This disposes of the objection that since the law is too demanding to be kept, it can be completely thrust aside as irrelevant to the individual living under grace.

R D Linder
(Elwell Evangelical Dictionary)

41 posted on 11/19/2002 12:42:29 PM PST by WriteOn
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To: WriteOn
Some of the healthiest works are weeds/branches(no spiritual/physical fruit)...even rotten---ok/you?
42 posted on 11/19/2002 12:58:07 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: WriteOn
Good News For The Day

‘Take my yoke upon you and learn from me. For I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden light.’ (Matthew 11:29&30)

"To those who are wearied by hard and unrewarding usage, Jesus offers relief. Yet we see that it is not rest in the form of complete cessation of obligation. Jesus rest from the yoke that galls lies in acceptance of another yoke of service-his. There is a rest for tired spirits, that can only be had along the road of service. Jesus teaches that that there can be no succor for the toils of despairing effort, apart from effort of another kind-effort springing out of a new and different relationship."

"Jesus rest does not liberate us from a sense of the seriousness of sin. Rather, we are taught by him that sin is more virulent, and dangerous than we had ever dreamt. He takes us on a... tour(link)---through the neighborhood of our own soul, and there discloses vast tracts of evil we had not thought were there."

"Instead of a...cheap escapism---Jesus delivers us from the discouragement of bad religion, and other poor moral guardians, by asking us to come with him and bear the load that love laid on his back. The paradox of Jesus is that love is always heavy-laden. Yet it is precisely this willingness to bear, that makes the yoke of Christ light."

"If we are not yoked with Jesus, we shall have to wear the yoke of other value systems which may appear to ask little of us, but which in fact leave us guilty, remorseful, drained of hope, and joy."

43 posted on 11/19/2002 1:04:47 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
As the posts on this thread point out, faith vs works has been long debated and (for many) unresolved. I think there is a flaw in your original assertion, though. You suggest that the goal of works is to attain the eternal reward. That's not the goal of those who understand scripture. The arguent is not so simply encapsulated.

We are saved by grace--true. We have no ability to earn heaven, we must be called to it by God and only He has the authority to grant eternal rest. Only by His grace, freely given, can we come to Him--no matter how hard we work.

On the flip side, we have a free will (and for many of us, it's not a very obedient will). Works of the scripture aren't about earning heaven, they are about disciplining the flesh. We go to church, read our bibles, do daily devotions and pray not because these things affect God. No, they affect us. By our free will we can reject God and lose our eternal reward. This applies to even the "saved." Disagree? It would have been better had Judas never been born.

Keeping our minds, hearts and bodies focused on the will of God helps ensure the flesh won't drag down the spirit. We have a spirit for God but our flesh is weak and full of rebellion.

What we have done for the least of God's people, we have done for Him. Our service to one another is service to Him. It's not an attempt to be rewarded with heaven. It's an attempt to not be pulled from it by fleshly distraction.

This is the lesson of the book of James and in no way contradicts the lesson of the book of Romans.
44 posted on 11/19/2002 3:03:27 PM PST by pgyanke
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To: pgyanke
"Theology is grace; ethics is gratitude."

45 posted on 11/19/2002 3:15:34 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
"Theology is grace; ethics is gratitude."


Please forgive me... I have no idea how that relates to the discussion.
46 posted on 11/19/2002 3:27:10 PM PST by pgyanke
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To: pgyanke
And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.’ (Romans 11:6)

Grace is enormously powerful; efficient. It is the kindness of God, by means of which he thinks lovingly, of each one, even before they are born. Them taking hold of them in life, brings them to Christ; to faith hope and love.

Though grace is dynamic-even formidable-there is something that can stop it being what it is, namely, works. Works is a shorthand term for human effort and ingenuity, aimed at achieving a safe and secure relationship with God. Such effort is contrary to grace. It also is effective, but in an opposite way, to grace. When placed alongside grace as a supplement, it changes grace's nature so that grace stops being grace.

The religion that Jesus brought to the world is all grace. In other words it is a religion that is about God; about the competence of God; the working of God; the creative achievement of God. This religion will not bear the admixture of the slightest addition of creative human effort into the equation. Before the religious activity of men and women can be added, the project must needs have been completed by God. Indeed, this is the very point the apostle wishes to make. Spiritual finality, and closure for humans beings, is achieved absolutely, for them, by God, through Christ. God does this in his kindness, or grace. All that is left for human agents to do, is adore. "Theology is grace; ethics is gratitude."

47 posted on 11/19/2002 3:30:49 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Did you even read my post? You simply cut and pasted your previous comment.

I agree we are saved by grace and that is God's gift. It can not be earned by our own effort.

I agree that works done with the intent of earning God's grace are empty and are contrary to grace.

Where you and I depart is that there is a place for works in our spiritual lives. Those who disagree discount a significant part of the New Testament in the book of James. Yes, Romans states very clearly what we agreed on above. However, there is more.

As a Christian, we should want to work for God's purpose and seek to do His will. Faith without works is empty. Also, works discipline the flesh so it can't distract the spirit. Jesus encouraged works in numerous ways including "what you do for the least of my people, you do unto me." This implies action. Also, "This is how you are to pray..." gives direction for another action. These two are but two immediate examples.

Do our actions and works affect God? No. They affect us. They discipline the flesh to the will of God so that it will not distract the spirit in its walk.

You and I agree on much, but simply cutting and pasting your post over again doesn't constitute a discussion.
48 posted on 11/19/2002 8:58:17 PM PST by pgyanke
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To: pgyanke; Republic
The matter---distinction is not trivial!
49 posted on 11/20/2002 2:48:03 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: PFKEY
John 6:28-29 Then said they unto him what shall we do that we might work the work of God. Jesus answered and said This is the work of God, believe on Him Who He has sent.

Becky

50 posted on 11/20/2002 2:58:46 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: pgyanke
Faith without works is empty

I agree on this-and accept that Grace is evidence of the kindness of God at the same time. Doing works to score points doesn't get it....doing good works to express faith and a love for God, does. Motive is everything.

51 posted on 11/20/2002 2:58:59 PM PST by Republic
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To: Larry Lucido
Anything done FOR salvation is work and not acceptable, anthing done BECAUSE of salvation is obedience, thanksgiving and praise.

Becky

52 posted on 11/20/2002 3:01:15 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: WriteOn
These verses are all pointing to what God would have us do to show our salvation, and love. Not to get salvation and love.

Becky

53 posted on 11/20/2002 3:04:17 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
anthing done BECAUSE of salvation is obedience, thanksgiving and praise.

And if we fail to "show" our salvation by obedience, thanksgiving and praise, do we lose it?

If not, what is the point of obedience, thanksgiving and praise? Can we get to heaven without it?

54 posted on 11/20/2002 4:03:04 PM PST by wai-ming
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To: wai-ming; All
Good News For The Day

‘But I say to all of you: In the future, you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the mighty One.’ (Matthew 26:64)

"If the universe is moral, (and the fact that such a person as Christ existed, is strong evidence that it is), then what Jesus said about himself and the future, must come true. If morality has an infinite source, and backing, then the moral excellence of Christ will ultimately... triumph---over evil."

"I know some very agreeable people. I know some that I would call gentle giants. But their easygoing spirit is never a threat to greed and corruption. Kindness, patience, understanding, and love are not better than envy and bitterness, if they only ever exist as counterweights to their opposites. A good man who is content to coexist forever with badness, and wrong, cannot be a good man in any absolute sense."

"The goodness of Jesus is surpassing because he not only sorrowed over sin, and was outraged by it, he set himself against it, and warned his enemies that by suffering for it, he would rise above it, and eliminate it."

"If our universe is a moral one, then Jesus' values can never be viewed in any offhand way. Rather, he must be seen as a hazard to every act, motive, system, institution, or law, that is not in sympathy with him. A question that governments and their constituents ought to ask is: Are we making laws; invoking policies that clash with Christ and the direction of his Spirit? If so we are building badly. The universe itself will not back us. The future belongs to Christ-and to all who follow him."

55 posted on 11/20/2002 6:21:17 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
bttt
56 posted on 11/21/2002 2:34:51 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: wai-ming
And if we fail to "show" our salvation by obedience, thanksgiving and praise, do we lose it?

NO.

If not, what is the point of obedience, thanksgiving and praise? Can we get to heaven without it?

I do not mean to be uncharitable, but this is a very selfish attitude. The point of obedience, thanksgiving and praise is to show obedience thanksgiving and praise. To show love for the God that sent His Son to hang and a cross and save our sorry carcasses.

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments, and His commandments are not grevious.

Do you always have to have something back for your good behavior? Is good behavior to much to ask for so great a salvation? Isn't pleasing God enough of a rewrd?

Becky

57 posted on 11/21/2002 5:40:19 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Thanks for your reponse.

I have always been told: "be good and you go to heaven; be bad and you go to hell." Now you're saying that that's a lie. Behaviour doesn't matter! Reminds me of Santa Claus. We all get our gifts anyway. (Do you know of anyone who ever really got a lump of coal in his/her stocking?)

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for "believing and receiving." That puts us all in heaven with Bill and Hillary. But if obedience is irrelevant, why bother to have commandments in the first place?

Is good behavior to much to ask for so great a salvation?

You're suggesting that there is a correlation between behaviour and salvation. Is there now, really? Think about it.

58 posted on 11/21/2002 7:55:53 AM PST by wai-ming
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To: wai-ming
Here's a little bit of personal observation on the subject. I've done a lot of research, read the appropriate scriptures and I've come to the following personal conclusion:

Works are the opposite of sin.

When we sin, we aren't doing anything to God. He still loves us and nothing has changed from His end of the relationship. We've hurt OUR relationship with Him. Sin pulls us from our relationship with God and is damaging to the spirit by corrupting the flesh.

When we do works, we aren't lifting God up or earning our salvation. He loves us just as much as when we commit sin. We're strengthening OUR relationship with Him. Works discipline the flesh to be in concert with the spirit.

It's not about earning heaven, it's about keeping our focus on the goal (our whole mind, our whole spirit, our whole strength).

God tells us much that we must do. The doing isn't a process of earning, it's a process of learning.
59 posted on 11/21/2002 8:31:14 AM PST by pgyanke
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To: f.Christian; Republic
Please see my post #59 for more clarification of my thoughts on the subject.

I enjoyed the conversation.
60 posted on 11/21/2002 8:39:07 AM PST by pgyanke
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