Ven. Anne Catherine Emmerich SAID TO HAVE INSPIRED NEW GIBSON MOVIE- PROPHESIED GREAT CHURCH CRISES

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[RobbyS]

I just read this in First Things in defence of Law. Do you know anything about this case?

Catholic Scandals (Cont.) I object to Richard John Neuhaus’ characterization of Bernard Cardinal Law in “Scandal Time Continued” (Public Square, June/July) as “more part of the problem than of the solution.” This is a very inaccurate statement that reflects the secular media’s position rather than objective reality. The main question concerning both critics and supporters of Cardinal Law is whether he is capable of leading the Archdiocese of Boston through this current crisis. The Cardinal was open to submitting his resignation in mid-April, but Pope John Paul II refused it and urged the Cardinal to clean up the mess. I suspect that the Pope’s judgment is far more trustworthy than that of the press.

One case in particular that has not been reported is the 1993 case in Woburn, Massachusetts, in which the pastor of St. Charles Borromeo Church caught the parochial vicar in the act of raping a twelve-year-old boy. The pastor immediately reported the incident to Cardinal Law, who advised the pastor to report it immediately to the police. The pastor did so and of course it was covered by the press. Everything was done in exactly the manner in which the press is now calling on the Church to handle these cases. Unfortunately, the end result wasn’t as neat as many would like. The parochial vicar was very popular in the parish, and the parents of the twelve-year-old refused to let the boy testify. The parochial vicar was acquitted in the criminal case, and the pastor became so unpopular in the parish that it was necessary to transfer him. The Cardinal, however, eventually laicized the parochial vicar, despite the acquittal in court. That doesn’t sound like the action of a man who is callously indifferent to the suffering of his flock.

I truly believe that Cardinal Law is very serious about addressing this issue as a real problem and not just as a public relations fiasco. I believe that the Cardinal will be successful in leading us out of this mess, and that when it is all over the Church will be much stronger for it.

Daniel R. Guilderson Winchester, Massachusetts

Regarding that priest, he obviously is suffering from a crisis of morale, like a soldier who no longer has faith in his cause. He should not be preaching. How old is he, by the way?

[Desdemona]

I saw a secret sect relentlessly undermining the great Church. Near them I saw a horrible beast coming up from the sea. All over the world, good and devout people, especially the clergy, were harassed, oppressed, and put into prison. When the Church had been for the most part destroyed and when only the sanctuary and altar were still standing, I saw the wreckers enter the Church with the Beast. There, they met a Woman of noble carriage who seemed to be with Child because she walked slowly.

"At this sight, the enemies were terrorized."

After great tribulation, the nun saw the Church "promptly rebuilt," with the Blessed Mother "more magnificent than ever."

Take heart, Colleen. They might try, but the church won't be destroyed. The Blessed Mother will help us.

If I haven't given up in other intentions, you can't give up either.

[.45MAN]

Holy water? I hardly see anyone using it to make the sign of the cross going in and out of church. Just like no one genuflects before getting into the pew.

I am lucky enough to belong to a parish where most all the people Bless themselves with Holy water going in and out, genuflect for the most part crossing in front of the alter and getting into and out of the pews. It did take a while for us to find this however. We allso have a statue of the Blessed Mother holding the Child. On Sunday at least to 10 to 15 people light the candles next to her....

[american colleen]

I do know about that case, it's hard to know what to make of it in light of the other abuse cases. It's my opinion that there was an awful lot going on that the Cardinal wasn't aware of because he was apparently a big delegator - and look who he delegated stuff to - McCormack and Banks are two off the top of my head. However, that doesn't explain the very nice notes he wrote some of the abusing priests... Geoghan for instance.

The priest in my parish is in his late 60s. He isn't much different than most priests here in what he says and does. It's pretty bad in most of the parishes. We need someone to clean house - huge "cultural" Catholic population here and we are down near the bottom of the list for seminarians. After being present at the Mass yesterday it isn't hard to figure out why.

[american colleen]

I don't lose hope, but it's hard to hear some of the things said to the laity from the pulpit and know that they aren't true. I sent George Weigel's newest book "The Courage to be Catholic" to the rectory a few months ago... guess he didn't read it!

I was thinking last night (reading some other stuff that a few of the Arch. of Boston's most vocal priests say and do) that it isn't a crisis in faith of the basic things Jesus Christ said and did (He was crucified, died and was buried for our sins), but it is a crisis of faith among the priests that He left us a Church that cannot teach error. So they separate the two and go from there.

Getting back to the thread... I somehow have a 4 volume set put out by TAN books of "The life of Jesus Christ" by Catherine Emmerich. I've read bits and pieces of all of them, but never cover to cover. It's on my list of "things to do."

[COBOL2Java]

FYI, Catholic Encyclopedia article on Ven. Anne Catherine Emmerich

[COBOL2Java]

Near them I saw a horrible beast coming up from the sea.

Sorry, couldn't help myself - Teddy was the first image that came to my mind...

[american colleen]

Perfect! Venerable Emmerich was prescient, indeed.

And he's mine! mine! mine! But I can't find a single soul who admits voting for him although he wins in a landslide each election year.

[Desdemona]

So much for breakfast.

Colleen, you have my sympathy.

[jmc159]

Hello all! Lovely to be here!

As a new Catholic, I would like to point out that the last paragraph of Venerable Anne's writings in this post mentions a "translation" of the Church. In religious contexts, that means the movement of something holy from one place to another, e.g. when a saint's relics are relocated to some other shrine from the one they are currently resting in. Now then, no saint could be so important that the translation of their relics would seem to signal the doom of the Faith. Which means that it is something else being talked of here. At the risk engaging in wild speculation, I would like to ask whether or not anyone else thought that this is a reference to the seat of the Papacy itself - whether or not the Pope would have to translate his Apostolic See and all it's authority out of Rome? One wonders where he would move it too. America comes to mind...

[Polycarp]

I do not read it that way. However, if there is any physical "translation" it might be by the anti-pope to Jerusalem, immediately preceeding the Second Coming. However, I try to stay away from such conjecture.

[Polycarp]

Ouch. Aren't there some kind of internet decency laws you're breaking by posting this pic?

[ThomasMore]

Holy water? I hardly see anyone using it to make the sign of the cross going in and out of church. Just like no one genuflects before getting into the pew... but then, what is one genuflecting to? The tabernacle isn't on the main altar anymore.

It all adds up to BAD catechesis!

[Scupoli]

Welcome:-)

You make an interesting point. Prophecies can have many layers of meaning, although my first instinct is to say this part is metaphorical. I will think further on this.

[TexasKamaAina]

That might be a good interpretation of her prophecy re translation. But I doubt it would be to America. The American church is only a few years behind Europe in its moral and doctrinal laxity. The future of the church resides in its African bishops.

[Domestic Church]

"I would like to ask whether or not anyone else thought that this is a reference to the seat of the Papacy itself - whether or not the Pope would have to translate his Apostolic See "

Yes, I have wondered about this as well...America being the Land of Our Lady.

[Domestic Church]

Regarding America and the approved visionary Maria Esperanza, she said, "God's justice will start in Venezuela."

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