Posted on 01/19/2003 4:13:53 PM PST by Polycarp
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Emmerich ... also saw an unnamed Pope "weakened by old age and by much suffering. His head was lolling from side to side, and it dropped onto his chest as if he were sleeping. He often fainted and seemed to be dying. But when he was praying, he was often comforted by apparitions from Heaven."
"Then I saw before me the Heavenly Spouse, and He spoke to me for a long time. He said, among other things, that this translation of the Church from one place to another meant that she would seem to be in complete decline. But she would rise again; even if there remained but one Catholic, the Church would conquer again because she does not rest on human counsels and intelligence."
I have no opinion on this at present, just thought I'd post it to see the direction the discussion heads.
Just one note: when evangelical Christians proclaim they have received a "word" or a "prophecy" "from the Lord" no one tries to claim demonic sources for them. Neither would it be just to try to claim demonic sources for Catholic "prophecy" with no further study and prayerful discernment.
On September 12, 1820, according to Catholic Prophecy, Sister Emmerich foresaw "a strange church being built against every rule... No angels were supervising the building operations. In that church, nothing came from high above... There was only division and chaos. It is probably a church of human creation, following the latest fashion.
"I saw again the strange big church that was being built. There was nothing holy in it. I saw this just as I saw a movement led by ecclesiastics to which contributed angels, saint, and other Christians. But there [in the strange new big church] all the work was being done mechanically. Everything was being done according to human reason.
"I saw all sorts of people, things, doctrines, and opinions. There was something proud, presumptuous, and violent about it. I did not see a single angel nor a single saint helping in the work. But far away in the background, I saw the seat of a cruel people armed with spears, and I saw a laughing figure which said: 'Do build it as solid as you can; we will pull it to the ground.'
my first thought exactly.
No wonder they are looking through Mel's garbage for dirt.
Not even the holy water. I used to be sacristan at a relatively conservative Catholic church. Most times the priests just barely waved their hands over the water in a vague sign of the cross. But in the sacristy there was a laminated sheet with the real prayers for blessing holy water which involved a (simple) exorcism. I would set out the large container of water with the salt and the prayer sheet whenever the holy water would run low. But the priests were reluctant to use the real prayers. They looked like vampires faced with a cross.
I have to wonder, "Are the true prayers for consecrating holy water EVER used anymore in any Novus Ordo church in America?"
That is scary!
Sorry, skipped the High Mass at Holy Trinity today for my local parish NO. Big mistake. Got a sermon on how we should expect married priests because there are no vocations. No mention on how orthodox dioceses have more vocations than beds, no mention on how most of us have two kids due to contraception and no mention of how one would be guided to a vocation when nothing presented is holy or inspiring in the least. And, most of all, this priest never spoke about his own fulfulling vocation. And all I was hoping was that he'd take the "our bodies are temples" part of the readings and elaborate on it in a Catholic way. I should have known better. Please pray for him. I am so angry and hurt it's going to be hard for me to continue to do it.
"When I saw the Church of St. Peter in ruins, and the manner in which so many of the clergy were themselves busy at this work of destruction -- none of them wishing to do it openly in front of the others -- I was in such distress that I cried out to Jesus with all my might, imploring His mercy."
What is that thing? It looks like some kind of Lovecraftian monstrocity build using non-Euclidean geometry.
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