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1 posted on 01/19/2003 4:13:53 PM PST by Polycarp
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2 posted on 01/19/2003 4:18:05 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: *Catholic_list; .45MAN; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; Antoninus; ...
I saw a Pope who was at once gentle and very firm...

Emmerich ... also saw an unnamed Pope "weakened by old age and by much suffering. His head was lolling from side to side, and it dropped onto his chest as if he were sleeping. He often fainted and seemed to be dying. But when he was praying, he was often comforted by apparitions from Heaven."

"Then I saw before me the Heavenly Spouse, and He spoke to me for a long time. He said, among other things, that this translation of the Church from one place to another meant that she would seem to be in complete decline. But she would rise again; even if there remained but one Catholic, the Church would conquer again because she does not rest on human counsels and intelligence."

I have no opinion on this at present, just thought I'd post it to see the direction the discussion heads.

Just one note: when evangelical Christians proclaim they have received a "word" or a "prophecy" "from the Lord" no one tries to claim demonic sources for them. Neither would it be just to try to claim demonic sources for Catholic "prophecy" with no further study and prayerful discernment.

3 posted on 01/19/2003 4:23:29 PM PST by Polycarp (3 Pillars of Culture of Death: 1)Contraception/Sterilization, 2)Abortion/Euthanasia, 3)Homosexuality)
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To: Polycarp
Could Sister Emmerich have foreseen the Taj Mahony?

On September 12, 1820, according to Catholic Prophecy, Sister Emmerich foresaw "a strange church being built against every rule... No angels were supervising the building operations. In that church, nothing came from high above... There was only division and chaos. It is probably a church of human creation, following the latest fashion.

"I saw again the strange big church that was being built. There was nothing holy in it. I saw this just as I saw a movement led by ecclesiastics to which contributed angels, saint, and other Christians. But there [in the strange new big church] all the work was being done mechanically. Everything was being done according to human reason.

"I saw all sorts of people, things, doctrines, and opinions. There was something proud, presumptuous, and violent about it. I did not see a single angel nor a single saint helping in the work. But far away in the background, I saw the seat of a cruel people armed with spears, and I saw a laughing figure which said: 'Do build it as solid as you can; we will pull it to the ground.'

4 posted on 01/19/2003 4:50:45 PM PST by Loyalist
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To: Polycarp
A bookmarked article on Anne Emmerich
8 posted on 01/19/2003 6:16:53 PM PST by Slyfox (Get your show prep here)
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To: Polycarp
The Bible gives us snapshots of Our Lord's Passion. Anne Emmerich's writings are like looking at a videotape of His Passion. Mel's movie will be profound. Better than any Passion Play yet devised.

No wonder they are looking through Mel's garbage for dirt.

9 posted on 01/19/2003 6:21:47 PM PST by Slyfox (Get your show prep here)
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To: Polycarp
FYI, Catholic Encyclopedia article on Ven. Anne Catherine Emmerich
26 posted on 01/20/2003 6:24:13 AM PST by COBOL2Java
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To: Polycarp
Near them I saw a horrible beast coming up from the sea.

Sorry, couldn't help myself - Teddy was the first image that came to my mind...

27 posted on 01/20/2003 6:30:49 AM PST by COBOL2Java
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To: Polycarp
Hello all! Lovely to be here!

As a new Catholic, I would like to point out that the last paragraph of Venerable Anne's writings in this post mentions a "translation" of the Church. In religious contexts, that means the movement of something holy from one place to another, e.g. when a saint's relics are relocated to some other shrine from the one they are currently resting in. Now then, no saint could be so important that the translation of their relics would seem to signal the doom of the Faith. Which means that it is something else being talked of here. At the risk engaging in wild speculation, I would like to ask whether or not anyone else thought that this is a reference to the seat of the Papacy itself - whether or not the Pope would have to translate his Apostolic See and all it's authority out of Rome? One wonders where he would move it too. America comes to mind...
30 posted on 01/20/2003 8:13:17 AM PST by jmc159 (Never seen a bluer sky.../ I can feel it reaching out and moving closer...)
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