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To: Slyfox
She also said that the only thing holy in those wrecks of churches will be the holy water.

Not even the holy water. I used to be sacristan at a relatively conservative Catholic church. Most times the priests just barely waved their hands over the water in a vague sign of the cross. But in the sacristy there was a laminated sheet with the real prayers for blessing holy water which involved a (simple) exorcism. I would set out the large container of water with the salt and the prayer sheet whenever the holy water would run low. But the priests were reluctant to use the real prayers. They looked like vampires faced with a cross.

I have to wonder, "Are the true prayers for consecrating holy water EVER used anymore in any Novus Ordo church in America?"

11 posted on 01/19/2003 6:54:09 PM PST by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
But the priests were reluctant to use the real prayers.

That is scary!

13 posted on 01/19/2003 7:14:58 PM PST by ELS
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To: Maximilian
I have a priest friend who does the whole shebang on the Feast of the Epiphany. Water, oil and salt. I cook with my supply. I get enough to last me the whole year. Now, it does not make me a better cook, but I remember that I am the salt of the earth every time I season my food.
14 posted on 01/19/2003 7:27:06 PM PST by Slyfox (Get your show prep here)
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To: Maximilian
Holy water? I hardly see anyone using it to make the sign of the cross going in and out of church. Just like no one genuflects before getting into the pew... but then, what is one genuflecting to? The tabernacle isn't on the main altar anymore.

Sorry, skipped the High Mass at Holy Trinity today for my local parish NO. Big mistake. Got a sermon on how we should expect married priests because there are no vocations. No mention on how orthodox dioceses have more vocations than beds, no mention on how most of us have two kids due to contraception and no mention of how one would be guided to a vocation when nothing presented is holy or inspiring in the least. And, most of all, this priest never spoke about his own fulfulling vocation. And all I was hoping was that he'd take the "our bodies are temples" part of the readings and elaborate on it in a Catholic way. I should have known better. Please pray for him. I am so angry and hurt it's going to be hard for me to continue to do it.

"When I saw the Church of St. Peter in ruins, and the manner in which so many of the clergy were themselves busy at this work of destruction -- none of them wishing to do it openly in front of the others -- I was in such distress that I cried out to Jesus with all my might, imploring His mercy."

18 posted on 01/19/2003 8:10:49 PM PST by american colleen
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