[Siobhan]

Someone explain to me why Catholicguy has been banned.

He is a conservative and his views were consistent with just war theory.

Is it his style that got him banned? Or are we forbidden to take issue with President Bush over the war plans involving Iraq and other nations?

I do not understand this banning at all, especially when other Freepers are allowed to roam the threads with endless anti-Catholic invective.

[ultima ratio]

I am glad he is gone. His thinking was playful, but shallow, and he brought a level of vitriol to his posts that were unacceptable--such as calling traditionalists like myself "sons of Satan" and worse. I am surprised he got away with what he did for so long--it was so clearly over the line.

I also never considered him a true conservative and his posts on Bush certainly prove this. No real conservative would have failed to have noted how eight years of Clinton have brought us to this sorry impasse, forcing Bush to deal with problems Buba was too inept or too corrupt to deal with.

[B Knotts]

Apparently, any deviation from the approved doctrine is now a bannable offense. Too bad; we used to have some good debate around here.

FWIW, I don't agree with his view of Pres. Bush, but I don't think someone should be banned for holding that view.

[attagirl]

I agree with what you said re CG.

I am really against this war as well. I don't think it fits the bill as a "just" war, and, what's more, Bush's not closing the borders and expelling illegals tells me WE AREN'T IN IT TO WIN! (Just like Viet Nam)

Bush needs to be careful invoking God as he has. A country that sees abortion as a "civil right" has no claim to its essential goodness. We are warned against tempting God. And every day we are slipping more and more into godlessness--no, paganism.

After this last State of the Union address how can anyone call Bush a conservative? With one hand he called for tax cuts and with 10 others he called for spending increases. BTW, did you know that if Medicare picks up the tab for meds, that will include Viagra?

This man is a one-termer, and we are on the road to destruction.

We voted him in as the anti-Clinton, and in many ways he has turned out to be one and the same policy-wise.

[Polycarp]

CatholicGuy was banned because he too is an outspoken, conservative, and thoughful Catholic, just as I too was banned in the past.

This Forum as well as certain of its moderators (and possibly Jim Robinson himself?) have an unapologetic anti-Catholic bigoted bias.

CatholicGuy's banning is further proof of the same.

They will tolerate any sort of anti-Catholic bigotry, leave the most vile anti-Catholic reports in the News forum/Breaking News sections, and banish anything in which Catholicism is seen in a positive light to the Religion Forum ghetto, but they draw the line when us Papists get uppity.

There's a reason this Forum has such a bigoted anti-Catholic bias:

Jim Robinson permits it at best, and at worst actively fosters it by letting certain of his bigoted moderators get away with their anti-Catholic censorship.

I have consistently contributed to this Forum since I joined up, and I have consistently encouraged my Catholic peers here to do likewise.

I cannot however in good conscience continue to support, or encourage others to support, an organization with such an openly enforced bigoted anti-Catholic bias.

Jim Robinson, you should be ashamed of yourself for allowing this bigoted anti-Catholic censorship on your Forum. You're a good guy. You should know better. You should do better. Reign in your bigoted anti-Catholic moderators.

If they are simply doing your will in carrying out an active anti-Catholic bias and censorship, then just say so.

[Desdemona]

CG probably got banned because he didn't know when to quit. He also didn't use logic, but that's neither here nor there.

I'll say this, there is a difference between being gung-ho for war and recognizing a job needs to be done. I'm one of those people. It needs to be done, IMO. I am very much afraid that once it starts, we are going to end up with another world war. This is a last resort. At some point, enough is enough. We could go on the way things are going now forever. Look what the same sort of tactic did to Cuba. Sometime it has to end. And frankly the way Hussein is leading the rest of the world around by the nose is embarassing.

As for George Bush: the man has been a fighter pilot, an honor reserved only for the best of the best and the brightest, even in the National Guard; he holds an MBA; he ran a MAjor League Baseball team and turned it into a money-maker; he ran a fortune-500 company and the state of Texas, quite well, as a matter of fact. Stupid he is not. He's not a great speaker, but who cares. He gets the job done.

This, regardless what anyone thinks, is not about oil. If it was, the best solution would be to drill our own. We have plenty. It's the response to an agressive dictator who has no regard for human life and is using religion like a Crusade, with absolutely no good intentions. There have been men like this in the past, same signs, and we did nothing and ended up still cleaning up a big mess.

So, having been attacked, not once, but multiple times, can someone in clear, concise terms explain to me how neutralizing a dangerous dictator violates the Just War Doctrine?

[Polycarp]

He is a conservative and his views were consistent with just war theory.

Pope John Paul II is opposed to this war.

If he was a FReeper and outlined his objections to Bush's plans here, Jim Robinson would ban him too.

[Polycarp]

Or are we forbidden to take issue with President Bush over the war plans involving Iraq and other nations?

Yes, we are forbidden. Especially if we're uppity Papists.

Mark my words: Bush engaging this war, wrapped in the mantle of the Christian nation with a mandate from God will be the destruction of this country.

There is no place in scriptural prophecy for America. It will either be annihilated or relegated to third world insignificance before the End Times. It has no role to play in the end.

This war will be the beginning of the transformation of America into third world insignificance.

And Bush's belief in his Divine Mandate, while running a country that is the greatest disseminator of the culture of death on the globe, will be the final sacrilege that leads to our destruction.

Frankly, let Bush go to it.

This country deserves its chastisement.

And it is coming.

And this Forum has fallen into irrelevancy by their censorship. The Catholic Caucus would do well in disengaging from it.

[sinkspur]

CatholicGuy was banned because he too is an outspoken, conservative, and thoughful Catholic, just as I too was banned in the past.

Comparing George W. Bush to Hitler, calling him a "Chiliastic cretin," "dumb," and questioning Bush's integrity and motives for going to war with Iraq will usually get somebody banned around here.

CG's vitriol towards Bush surprised me, as he has managed to keep a lid on his anger as far as the Church and trads are concerned. Apparently, he's a libertarian Buchananite peacenik who would have us sit back and get taken out by terrorists or dictators. Even the action to take out the Taliban was an "unjust war," in his opinion.

He doesn't belong here, at least not politically.

[ksen]

Or are we forbidden to take issue with President Bush over the war plans involving Iraq and other nations?

*whistle* *whistle* *whistle*

I do not understand this banning at all, especially when other Freepers are allowed to roam the threads with endless anti-Catholic invective.

I like you Siobhan, but why does it usually have to come down to accusing people of anti-Catholicism?