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Latest Paul money bomb looks like dud
The Politico ^ | 11-30-07 | By: Kenneth P. Vogel

Posted on 12/01/2007 5:14:45 AM PST by MNJohnnie

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Looks like the smoke and mirrors that is the Paul campaign is starting to fall apart. Raise almost $12 million and still cannot get even 10% in any polls. Have to wonder just where is all this money coming from?

And that not considering the "independent" expenditures being made on Paul's behalf.

I wonder if some fat cat Paulbots are not going to be surprised to discover US Campaign laws do apply to them as well as the rest of us.

1 posted on 12/01/2007 5:14:47 AM PST by MNJohnnie
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To: MNJohnnie

Maybe we should print up some Liberty Dollars to send to Paul.


2 posted on 12/01/2007 5:30:45 AM PST by Always Right
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To: MNJohnnie

This may explain why the Paul Faithful appear to be getting even nastier and moonbattier of late. ;-)


3 posted on 12/01/2007 6:46:34 AM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Is it me or does anyone else get annoyed with articles that quote individuals without introducing them? WHo is Benton, who is Lyman? Their quotes are just thrown in there early in the article as if we’re supposed to know who they are, then they are described (if at all) several paragraphs later.


4 posted on 12/01/2007 6:50:37 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: MNJohnnie
And that not considering the "independent" expenditures being made on Paul's behalf.

I wonder if some fat cat Paulbots are not going to be surprised to discover US Campaign laws do apply to them as well as the rest of us.


I wonder how it is that a primary author of those laws limiting freedom of political expression is still in the Republican Party and running for President.
5 posted on 12/01/2007 7:26:10 AM PST by publiusF27
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To: Allegra

I noticed that Paul didn’t get the big cheer he’s used to when he was introduced at the recent debate. Also I noticed that the moonbats haven’t been able to FReep the FR poll enough to put him near the top this time out either.


6 posted on 12/01/2007 7:43:46 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Republican Presidential candidate, Ron Paul, is now the frontrunner in the GOP race according to this months fund raising numbers. Paul rose over 10.3 million in the fourth quarter with a month left to go in the quarter. That number is double of what Paul raised in the third quarter.

By contrast, rival Fred Thompson raised $9,750,821 in the third quarter. Mitt Romney raised $9,896,719 in the third quarter, and Rudy Giuliani raised $10,258,019 in the third quarter.

http://www.usadaily.com/article.cfm?articleID=182537


7 posted on 12/01/2007 7:57:14 AM PST by Rush4U
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They also haven’t spam monkey’d every thread that mentioned him in a couple days.
I was waiting for them to appear yesterday on two threads in particular that made their hero look bad.


8 posted on 12/01/2007 7:59:46 AM PST by Darksheare (Cordite Chipmunk, the Splodent Rodent.)
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I wouldn't call $500,000 in one day a 'dud'... :)
9 posted on 12/01/2007 2:25:21 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: MNJohnnie
Have to wonder just where is all this money coming from?

Paul Cash

How many donors does that say? 120,000 with an average donation of $89 per person. Now I know I've donated $200 and several others I know have donated about the same amount. This is the first time in my entire life I have given a penny to a political campaign. Contrary to the party faithful we aren't receiving checks from George Soros. No, what upsets the party 'faithful' is we aren't choosing from the 'mainstream' candidates whose mealy mouthed responses are the same I've heard for decades now. What upsets them even more is they can't track these people because dang it they either haven't played the party game before or they had given up on most politicians long ago. They can't track them to know what they'll do when it comes to the precious voting system that has been dominated by Idiot Party 1 and Idiot Party 2

Dud? Let's see. I heard about Rudy's Reading Day about 7 days before. Most others probably around the same time, perhaps a few days extra. So in 10 days supporters of Ron Paul, without the help of the campaign, got out the message and raised over $500,000. Yeah that's a dud alright. A dud any of the 'frontrunners' would gladly accept.

Better wake up Johnnie my boy. The libertarians are back and this time your little closed party of nanny statists and interventionists are going to be put out to pasture hopefully once and for all. It may not happen this election, it may take 16 years like it did between Goldwater and Reagan. But I'm thinking not. As fast as information travels now, the clock for the big government Republicans to go away will be ticking a lot faster

10 posted on 12/01/2007 2:40:02 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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Its getting ridiculous that they keep doing these at the last minute so theres no planning or organization behind them. Theyve raised 10 million this quarter, thats more than enough for now. The 16th could be a HUGE day. Especially if he gets 6 or 7 million on that day. Which I would say is VERY likely to happen. But how much of that money has already been contributed instead of waiting for it all on one day like originally planned?


11 posted on 12/01/2007 2:51:28 PM PST by JJTHEBULL (You're either with US, or you're with the ILLEGALS)
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To: billbears

I’ve given $500 now, so I guess that makes me one of the “fat cats” among Paul donors...luckily that Soros check will be coming soon to reimburse me. And WE’RE the conspiracy theorists....


12 posted on 12/01/2007 3:34:47 PM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: traviskicks; billbears

As you guys know, RP donations average about 160K dollar a day with about 1500 donors.

His second so called “money boom” did over 500K in one day. I would say it was a really good day compared to his average.

The big day as you guys are writing about is the 16th of Dec. However, I heard they wanted to combine the 15/16th together in fear that some would not want to give money on a Sunday.

Regardless, I do believe the weekend of the 15th will be very successful. When it is, we will have those who hate Paul (dont understand him) blame Soros for funding him and yet these same detractors are calling this 500K a dud and claiming RP is losing his momentum and support.

How did Fred giving day do? Did the campaign raise over 500K in the one day? I know some are being VERY quiet about giving day.

Thanks for the ping TK


13 posted on 12/01/2007 3:53:06 PM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: Allegra

Thanks for introducing your friend Lefty to the Forum.


14 posted on 12/01/2007 4:29:34 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: billbears
*****Dud? Let’s see. I heard about Rudy’s Reading Day about 7 days before. Most others probably around the same time, perhaps a few days extra. So in 10 days supporters of Ron Paul, without the help of the campaign, got out the message and raised over $500,000. Yeah that’s a dud alright. A dud any of the ‘frontrunners’ would gladly accept.****

They also didn’t mention that, when Ron Paul’s person in charge of fund raising sent out the e-mail saying the campaign needed money now, Ron Paul supporters chipped in somewhere between $200-300,000 on that day. (I couldn’t find the numbers, but I think that my numbers are close.)

With such an up front primary schedule, I thought making the next money bomb Dec. 16th, after the Nov. 5th money bomb, was pretty late. I think Trevor was looking for something that could not be spun by the MSM, so he selected the date of the Boston Tea Party.

In any case, Dec. 16th will be huge. It will not get the overlay that Nov. 5th got. (About $1.8 M pledged, $4.2 M received.) I expect that about $3 M will be pledged and about $6 M. will be received.

Good showings in Iowa, top 3, and N. H., top 2, will give Ron Paul the momentum to pull off the greatest political upset in our history.

15 posted on 12/01/2007 8:21:11 PM PST by jmeagan (Our last chance to change the direction of the country -- Ron Paul)
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To: billbears
The comparison to Goldwater is, I think, an apt one.

Goldwater excited a generation of future conservative leaders while they were still just college kids, and that's what Ron Paul is doing today. On another forum I visit, one of the guys posted a picture of Ron Paul with the caption, "Yes, mom's going to be pissed that you donated next semester's tuition"

That's pretty funny because it has some ring of truth to it, something you couldn't say if it were about another Republican candidate. Who else is getting college kids in large numbers to learn about individual freedom and limited government? No one.

Goldwater lost big time, but he left behind a legacy - a group of young people who had become interested for the first time in politics. Ron Paul is doing the same thing today. Every day, some more or less apolitical college kid whose opinions have been formed mostly by the mainstream media hears about him and goes to his issues page. Where else are these kids hearing positive things about property rights and low taxes and gun ownership? Almost all of them know Social Security is a political scam and they'll never see a dime. Who else is saying so right on his campaign website?

Ron Paul may not even be in the race in a couple of months, but he has already changed the world by waking up some youngsters, just like Goldwater did before him. The GOP is just being stupid by shunning Paul and cozying up to northeastern liberals, IMO. Pushing away potential allies. It's like they want a third party to emerge.
16 posted on 12/02/2007 5:45:51 AM PST by publiusF27
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Inoticed that Paul didn’t get the big cheer he’s used to when he was introduced at the recent debate. Also I noticed that the moonbats haven’t been able to FReep the FR poll enough to put him near the top this time out either.

I didn't even bother with the poll.

Polls are for those who are worried about what other people think-consensus thinkers, like most of the GOP candidates.

17 posted on 12/05/2007 8:07:30 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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They also haven’t spam monkey’d every thread that mentioned him in a couple days. I was waiting for them to appear yesterday on two threads in particular that made their hero look bad.

First, Ron Paul supporters hero is the 'Constitution'.

Second, who is your candidate?

18 posted on 12/05/2007 8:09:44 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: publiusF27
Ron Paul may not even be in the race in a couple of months, but he has already changed the world by waking up some youngsters, just like Goldwater did before him. The GOP is just being stupid by shunning Paul and cozying up to northeastern liberals, IMO. Pushing away potential allies. It's like they want a third party to emerge.

What the Ron Paul campaign has done is expose the truth that there is no difference between either Party and that either the Constitutionalists are going to take over the GOP, or it is going the way of the Whig Party.

19 posted on 12/05/2007 8:13:13 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Ah, spam monkey dead threads.
Dance for me spam monkey.


20 posted on 12/05/2007 12:19:09 PM PST by Darksheare (Cordite Chipmunk, the Splodent Rodent.)
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