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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The Berlin Airlift - Jan 5th, 2003
berlin airlift historical foundation ^

Posted on 01/05/2003 12:02:17 AM PST by SAMWolf

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To: SAMWolf
lol! Lots of them! :)
121 posted on 01/05/2003 9:12:32 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: SAMWolf; MistyCA
I would hope we sat out the next time the decided to try and kill each other off. but I also know we probably wouldn't.

We tried that in both World Wars.

We came in late to WWI to break the stalemate (and reap some benefits, a fact that most people seem to politely forget), but we had no interest in jumping in at the beginning. Ultimately, we knew a prolonged war has hurting us, too, so we took action. And it was costly.

Same thing in WWII. Even when the threat to us was obvious, we were so bitter from WWI that the American people wanted no part of the war in Europe. If Roosevelt wouldn't have deliberately let the Japanese kill our men at Pearl Harbor (minus the carriers, of course), we probably wouldn't have gotten involved until well after Britain fell and nearly the entire world's industrial might was turned against us.

The fact is this: Germany is too dangerous and too treacherous to turn our backs on. U.S. troops are stationed there not to protect Germany from Russia, but to protect the rest of the world from Germany. Think about that.

Nowadays, although Nazism is enjoying a resurgence there, the real danger is Marxism. A Germany under a new Stalin is no less a threat to the world than a Germany under a new Hitler.

Personally, I hold the German people in very high regard. They are an amazing and capable people who literally have the power to take over the world. And that's why I would never turn my back on them.

Not only should we maintain garrisons in Germany, we must have a (extremely secret) policy of moving quickly (and anonymously) to remove or assassinate any new German leader that demonstrates the charisma and ambition that may move Germany toward another bloody campaign of conquest.

As much as I despise Gerhard Schroeder, he's a better leader for Germany than someone who is competent and potentially dangerous.

122 posted on 01/05/2003 10:16:14 PM PST by Imal
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To: MistyCA; SAMWolf; All
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! I log on to check out my pings and freepmail and what assaults my eyes but a man kissing another man! Gag!

Great thread Sam (except for that one pix)... Wish I had more time to spend in the Foxhole, but I gotta get up too stinkin' early in the morning to help my mom take my dad to a doctors appointment. I'm in AL for the whole week helping her, but I'll pop in and out as I am able to get a little free time. I miss y'all!!!

Apologies to everybody who posted to me that I can't reply back to individually.
123 posted on 01/05/2003 10:18:58 PM PST by Jen
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To: MistyCA; SAMWolf
Dang, can't blame the Afghani too much though... that soldier is pretty hot!
124 posted on 01/05/2003 10:22:03 PM PST by Jen
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To: Imal
I was sure surprised to see Germany re-united in my lifetime. I thought it would never be allowed.
125 posted on 01/05/2003 10:30:37 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: Imal
Thank you for that opinion. I appreciate hearing it very much. The Germans are dangerous to the United States. They don't like us and believe that we are uninformed about world events and allow our Government to manipulate us. And they believe that our Government is a threat to all people in the world. At least people I have talked to in Germany think that. Basically, they would like to believe that we are stupid and deserved being attacked on 9-11.
126 posted on 01/06/2003 12:24:02 AM PST by MistyCA
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To: AntiJen
LOL! I knew that picture would get to you! LOLOL! We miss you too, Jen. But take your time and do what you have to do. We will be here when you are back home and settled. :)
127 posted on 01/06/2003 12:25:43 AM PST by MistyCA
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To: AntiJen
hot, hot, HOT! :)
128 posted on 01/06/2003 12:26:23 AM PST by MistyCA
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To: MistyCA
Ummm... temporal instability, yeah.. that's it...
129 posted on 01/06/2003 7:20:42 AM PST by Darksheare
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To: Western Phil
My mother lived in East Germany after the war, and moved to East Berlin to get medical treatment for polio. IIRC, the Soviets provided for her rehabilitation for free, but only in East Berlin, not in her home town. Probably for the propaganda effect.

At the start of the blockade, her brother made a little money smuggling Soviet cigarettes to West Berliners. By the fall, he was dreaming of unimaginable riches he would make from the black market, supplying food stuffs to starving West Berliners.

However, by spring, he had to resort to smuggling American provisions out of West Berlin into the East German countryside to keep his wares moving. Once, he brought home fresh produce in the early spring, before the crops were ready, and was busted by the local police. He traded his supplies for his freedom, and the locals kept it off from his record.

In regards to the currency devaluation, after the airlift ended, her brother worked at a railroad yard in West Berlin, but was paid in East German marks. He was killed in an accident at the yard. The East German church that my mother's family used for the funeral would only accept West German marks in payment. Ten to one was the ratio that I remember. This cost the family a tremendous amount of money, and finally drove them from the church for good.

In the early 50's my mothers' entire family left East Germany for good. She met my father, a truck driver/electical engineer stationed at Templehof who supported the airlift. They were married in '54.

130 posted on 01/06/2003 8:20:22 PM PST by texas booster
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Thank you for sharing that family history. What a horrible time it must have been for so many people. I am glad your mother got out of East Germany and you have known freedom.
131 posted on 01/07/2003 7:44:20 AM PST by MistyCA
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To: texas booster
Thanks for sharing Texas booster.

My Mom is from Germany, the Colonge/Remscheid area. Her family still appreciates what the Allies have done for Germany.
132 posted on 01/07/2003 7:51:27 AM PST by SAMWolf
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