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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Woman in the Military - Feb. 15th, 2003
http://userpages.aug.com/captbarb/ ^ | Captain Barbara A. Wilson, USAF (Ret)

Posted on 02/15/2003 12:00:57 AM PST by SAMWolf

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Today the FReeper Foxhole invites you to visit the home of the skeptical, irrascible, doubting, iconoclastic Captain Critical, aka Captain Barb, whose pontificating will try to amuse, bemuse, irritate and generally annoy anyone bold enough to stay long enough to read the random ramblings of a self appointed distaff critic of anything and everything from new age to old age, from god to goddesses, and from here to infinity. And who will continue to remind you that women are veterans too!

Did you know that there are almost two million women veterans? From the American Revolution to Panama, Bosnia, Kosovo, and more, women have served in some way in every conflict. Not that they were legal in the early days. History tells us that thirty three thousand women served in World War One and almost 500,000 took part in World War Two. During the Korean era 120,000 women were in uniform and seven thousand were deployed in theater during Viet Nam. During Desert Storm seven per cent of the total U.S. forces deployed were women - over forty thousand of them. So on these pages you will find the history and accomplishments of those women who have served this country - voluntarily - since it's beginning.

Amazing women, do amazing things.

More about women in war:

Revolutionary War Women

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Women in Vietnam

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Women in Desert Storm



Somalia, Bosnia and More

Operation Desert Fox

The Military Academies

Women in the National Guard

They Gave Their Lives



Women Prisoners of War

Famous Women in Arlington National Cemetery

Gender Integrated Training

Women Who Were Spies

Military Women Pilots



Myths, Fallacies and Urban Legends

21st Century Combat



Click on the graphic to visit Captain Barbara A. Wilson's, USAF (Ret) Site

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To: SAMWolf
It's good to finally see the women who DO serve, and serve well, receive the recognition they deserve...
61 posted on 02/15/2003 1:55:01 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (We've got, you know, armadillos in our trousers. I mean, it's really quite frightening.)
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To: AntiJen
and I believe women have a role in the military - although not in every career field.

I agree with you. I also think that there service is just as important as any mans.

62 posted on 02/15/2003 1:58:27 PM PST by The Real Deal
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To: AntiJen; OldCorps; SAMWolf
Mary Scantland was commissioned in 1951 and was a forecaster at Itazuke AB during the Korean War. Having flown eleven types of aircraft as a WWII WASP,(including P38,P39,P40,P47,P51) Mary often briefed fuzzy-cheeked combat pilots with less cockpit hours than she had.
63 posted on 02/15/2003 2:04:52 PM PST by larryjohnson
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To: SAMWolf

Today's classic warship, USS Maine (ACR-1)

Maine class armored cruiser
Displacement. 6,682 t.
Lenght. 319'
Beam. 57'
Draft. 21' 6"
Complement. 374
Speed. 17 k.
Armament. 4 10", 6 6", 7 6-pdrs., 8 1-pdrs., 4 14" tt.

The USS Maine was designed and laid down as an armored cruiser. Her construction was delayed by a fire in the drafting room of the New York Navy Yard and also by the late delivery of her armor. By the time she was ready, the concept of the armored cruiser had moved beyond her. Too slow and heavily armored to be considered a cruiser, she was later redisignated a second-class battleship during her lenghty construction.

The USS Maine (ACR-1), was laid down at New York Navy Yard 17 October 1888; launched 18 November 1889, sponsored by Miss Alice Tracy Wilmerding, granddaughter of Secretary of the Navy Benjamin Tracy; and commissi oned 17 September 1895, Capt. Arent S. Crowninshield in command.

Maine departed New York Navy Yard 5 November 1895 for Newport, R.I., via Gardiner's Bay, N.Y., to fit out 16 to 23 November, and then proceeded on the 25th to Portland, Maine, to visit her namesake. The battlewagon then put to sea on the 29th on trials and inspection, being assigned to the North Atlantic Squadron 16 December, and sailing via Newport to Tompkinsville, N.Y., arriving 23 December. The ship sailed the next day for Fort Monroe, Va., arriving on Christmas Day. She operated out of that place and Newport News through June 1896 and then on the 4th sailed for Key West on a 2-month training cruise, returning to Norfolk 3 August. Maine continued extensive east coast operations until late 1897. Then the ship prepared for a voyage to Havana, Cuba, to show the flag and to protect American citizens in event of violence in the Spanish struggle with the revolutionary forces in Cuba.

On 11 December Maine stood out of Hampton Roads bound for Key West, arriving on the 15th. She was joined there by ships of the North Atlantic Squadron on maneuvers, then left Key West 24 January 1898 for Havana.

Arriving 25 January, Maine anchored in the center of the port, remained on vigilant watch, allowed no liberty, and took extra precautions against sabotage. Shortly after 2140, 15 February, the battleship was torn apart by a tremendous explosion that shattered the entire forward part of the ship. Out of 350 officers and men on board that night (4 officers were ashore), 252 were dead or missing. Eight more were to die in Havana hospitals during the next few days. The survivors of the disaster were taken on board Ward Line steamer City of Washington and Spanish cruiser Alfonso XII. The Spanish officials at Havana showed every attention to the survivors of the disaster and great respect for those killed. The court of inquiry convened in March was unable to obtain evidence associating the destruction of the battleship with any person or persons, but public opinion in the United States was so inflamed that the Maine disaster led eventually to the declaration of war on Spain 21 April.

On 5 August 1910, Congress authorized the raising of Maine and directed Army engineers to supervise the work. A second board of inquiry appointed to inspect the wreck after it was raised reported that injuries to the ship's bottom were caused by an external explosion of low magnitude that set off the forward magazine, completing destruction of the ship.

Technical experts at the time of both investigations disagreed with the findings, believing that spontaneous combustion of coal in the bunker adjacent to the reserve six-inch magazine was the most likely cause of the explosion on board the ship. In 1976, Admiral Hyman G. Rickover published his book, How the Battleship Maine Was Destroyed. The admiral became interested in the disaster and wondered if the application of modern scientific knowledge could determine the cause. He called on two experts on explosions and their effects on ship hulls.

Using documentation gathered from the two official inquiries, as well as information on the construction and ammunition of Maine, the experts concluded that the damage caused to the ship was inconsistent with the external explosion of a mine. The most likely cause, they speculated, was spontaneous combustion of coal in the bunker next to the magazine.

Some historians have disputed the findings in Rickover's book, maintaining that failure to detect spontaneous combustion in the coal bunker was highly unlikely. Yet evidence of a mine remains thin and such theories are based primarily on conjecture. Despite the best efforts of experts and historians in investigating this complex and technical subject, a definitive explanation for the destruction of Maine remains one of the continuing enigmas of American history.

Maine's hulk was finally floated 2 February 1912 and towed out to sea where it was sunk in deep water in the Gulf of Mexico with appropriate ceremony and military honors 16 March.


64 posted on 02/15/2003 2:14:25 PM PST by aomagrat (IYAOYAS)
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To: AntiJen; SAMWolf; OldCorps
The first WAF forecaster assigned to a combat zone was Capt.Margaret Roberts. She left Tan Son Nhut as I arrived but her replacement was Capt. Pat Hayes. (I had said she was the oldest WO before but she was a WO when I met her years before. I bet she was the oldest Captain,though). Pat was assigned up to Chief Scientist in the SEA Weather Center. She could party as well as forecast with the best.
65 posted on 02/15/2003 2:25:08 PM PST by larryjohnson
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
.."IS it SAFE?" = HILLARY on Armed Services Committtee..


Short answer...NO!!
66 posted on 02/15/2003 2:36:21 PM PST by Valin (Age and Deceit, beat youth and skill)
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To: AntiJen
Two of the 18 WAFs selected for the first women's pilot training were weather Officers.In Sep 1977, Lt Carol Scherer was assigned to WC130(weather reconn) pilot duty at Anderson AFB,Guam.
67 posted on 02/15/2003 2:53:15 PM PST by larryjohnson
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To: larryjohnson
LJ, thanks for the great info for today's thread. I'm beginning to suspect you have a 'thing' for women in uniform. No? hahahahaha
68 posted on 02/15/2003 3:02:41 PM PST by Jen
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Hi Chad! Great to see you in the Foxhole. If those armadillos get loose, we're going to roast them on a spit for tonight's dinner. ;-)
69 posted on 02/15/2003 3:04:46 PM PST by Jen
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To: AntiJen
Si! Me gustan todas, mi Jenerale!
70 posted on 02/15/2003 3:07:07 PM PST by larryjohnson
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To: SAMWolf; AntiJen; SpookBrat; MistyCA; GatorGirl; souris; All

Amazing women, do amazing things.

71 posted on 02/15/2003 3:09:53 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Valin
1979 Paul Shirley (21) of Australia, sucked a lifesaver for 4 hours 40 minutes

Valin! OMG!! Let's try to keep the history post rated 'PG' please!

72 posted on 02/15/2003 3:13:35 PM PST by Jen
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To: larryjohnson
Translate please. No habla yo lingo.
73 posted on 02/15/2003 3:15:43 PM PST by Jen
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To: The Real Deal
Old Johnny Horton had some really great songs.
74 posted on 02/15/2003 3:18:59 PM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Hi Victoria! Nice graphic. Those must be conservative women in uniform, because they're not ugly, like liberals.
75 posted on 02/15/2003 3:19:00 PM PST by Jen
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To: AntiJen
Afternoon Jen. Just giving credit where credit is due.
76 posted on 02/15/2003 3:19:32 PM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: AntiJen
LOL!!! I agree with you, Jen. Even the ones who pretend to be conservatives are ugly, I mean, you know they are liberals just by looking at them, LOL!
77 posted on 02/15/2003 3:25:37 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: aomagrat
Thanks aomagrat, This is the first time I remember seeing a photo of the wreck.
78 posted on 02/15/2003 3:26:32 PM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: larryjohnson
Thanks Larry for telling us about the women Officers you knew when you were in the Air Force. Being in the Army, I wasn't aware that there were woman serving in weather forcasting for the Air Force.
79 posted on 02/15/2003 3:30:13 PM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Afternoon Victoria. How things going?
80 posted on 02/15/2003 3:30:56 PM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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