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How I see today's Army
My discouraged self | CENTVRIO EQVITVM

Posted on 09/07/2001 8:49:49 AM PDT by CENTVRIO EQVITVM

10. Fear of failure consistently overrides the desire for success. If you drag your feet and express reservations until forced to act you aren't a coward, or indecisive, just exercising caution. It also helps you snivel your way out of responsibility when you f**k up. Always complain that your units manning and resources are insufficient.

9. Quantity over quality saps the drive from soldiers and the readiness from units but gets you promoted. As a 1st Sergeant once said "It's all about the report card." Commanders who drive their men to accomplish more than their assigned missions get promoted even though they accomplish nothing to standard and destroy the morale and fighting capabilities of their troops. Commanders who accomplish every assigned mission to or above standard and successfully build combat ready teams are passed over. Their "report cards" have fewer entries and are therefore judged as sub standard.

8. We have undermined discipline by emasculating our NCO Corps, culling our junior officers and placing the lowest levels of decision making too high up the food chain. A decade ago, soldiers routinely moved to the wall and assumed the position of parade rest when a corporal passed by. Today, soldiers duck into buildings to avoid saluting the colors and turn aside to avoid saluting officers. Placing a soldier at the position of parade rest when speaking with a NCO is considered by many to be an act of degradation. Since a poor decision by a subordinate may reflect poorly on the commander, commanders at all levels arrogate more and more decisions to themselves until there are virtually none left for their subordinates to make. Since making a decision can be risky, commanders then wait until the last possible moment, and beyond, to exercise their authority.

7. There is more talk than ever about caring for soldiers and less acting on it. Even while we are endlessly driven to focus on "force protection - quality of life - personnel tempo - and families” our leaders refer to their own men as "bodies", casually trade their time amongst themselves and attempt to curry favor with soldiers instead of earning their respect. Fatigue details, and time off, do not train men for combat.

6. The universal beret. I pray that using the European union crest (+ one star) for the common flash amounts only to mere coincidence.

5. An Army of one. There is now officially not just an “I” in “TEAM”, “TEAM” is spelled “I”.

4. The great lessons of operational deployments are: constant repetition creates expertise; empowered junior leaders who are routinely assigned missions, resourced and then left alone routinely accomplish missions and believe in themselves; sustained performance requires staffs and leaders to work in short shifts, execute incomplete plans and produce clear, brief, simple orders. Units immediately abandon all these lessons upon return to the show over go form over substance environment of garrison training and the prized CTC rotation. It is all about the report card.

3. Morale, training, tactical proficiency, and the ability to fight and win our nation’s wars all depend on having effective and available/ reliable equipment and weapons. Our tanks are 10 to 15 years old and break down a lot. Our infantrymen carry approximately the same load as that borne by Caesar’s legions. Soldiers are motivated when they have new stuff, and they want their new stuff to be fantastically tough, imminently reliable and incredibly deadly to the enemy without being too deadly to themselves. The stuff we’ve got is old, unreliable and increasingly suspect.

2. We are rotting morally and ethically. An officer will not lie, cheat, or steal, nor tolerate those who do. Most Captains and Lieutenants know what this means, and suffer accordingly. Many Majors remember when they knew what it meant and can be made snappish by mentioning any of the phrases. Most Colonels and Lieutenant Colonels are contemptuously solicitous of any who believe such naïve words have any meaning whatsoever. Our General Officers parrot the words endlessly without the slightest intent of allowing any iota of the code to be practiced. The reality is that in order to please their superiors and provide the illusion of success: An officer must lie, cheat, or steal, and tolerate those who do.

1. Junior leaders and soldiers expect that their superiors will unhesitatingly sell them out for personal advantage. This explains the attention given the beret issue when the speech in which that promise appeared contained many other promises. The beret promise was believed. The other promises were not.


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I know, I know, don't make a rant your first post.

From the inside of the institution looking out.

1 posted on 09/07/2001 8:49:53 AM PDT by CENTVRIO EQVITVM
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To: CENTVRIO EQVITVM
hellooo.
2 posted on 09/07/2001 9:12:04 AM PDT by CENTVRIO EQVITVM
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To: CENTVRIO EQVITVM
The Army has taken Politically Correct to a higher level.
3 posted on 09/07/2001 9:22:46 AM PDT by Pete53
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To: Pete53
I wrote this years ago and have only had to update it recently.
4 posted on 09/07/2001 9:28:31 AM PDT by CENTVRIO EQVITVM
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To: CENTVRIO EQVITVM
Bump for your first post.

Oh, and as you were :-)

5 posted on 09/07/2001 9:30:57 AM PDT by 91B
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To: Travis McGee,sneakypete,chapita,Harpseal,Squantos
A Bump and Call.
6 posted on 09/07/2001 9:41:50 AM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: CENTVRIO EQVITVM
As "they" say: "Been there - done that."

The obvious question arises, "What are Americans going to do to fix it?"

The U.S. military (not just the Army) has already gone way too far over the hill to fix itself.

Our Federal Government can not/will not fix it -- they are the ones responsible for creating this subservient olio of politically correct incompetence.

Alas, considering your allusion to the Roman Cohorts, I fear America and it's remarkable society are also doomed. This IS the period of rapid decline.

7 posted on 09/07/2001 9:46:17 AM PDT by skip2myloo
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To: CENTVRIO EQVITVM
There is now a marked similarity to the Vietnam '70's attitude in the officer corps about ticket punching and CYA. The similarity even extends to the berets. When I first joined the 1st Cav Div here at Fort Hood during that time, the Cav all wore black berets with our khakis and Class A's (except for some units who insisted on wearing the black Stetsons .. 7th Cav comes to mind). Although I am still a DoD employee, I'm glad I only had to go through that one time. I grow very uncomfortable viewing the majority of the newest crop of soldiers.

12th Cavalry - The Blue Lancers

8 posted on 09/07/2001 9:55:12 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: skip2myloo
The obvious question arises, "What are Americans going to do to fix it?"

Yeah. I thought "Help was On The Way"... I haven't seen any help yet.

9 posted on 09/07/2001 10:12:25 AM PDT by SunStar
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To: BlueLancer
12th Cavalry - The Blue Lancers

Curious as to where you were stationed?

3rd Armor 12th CAV 1968-70

10 posted on 09/07/2001 10:30:32 AM PDT by Pete53
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To: CENTVRIO EQVITVM
Ugh... Too true.

I left in late 95 as a young Captain. Supposedly one's 'best years' in the Army. It was hell. I was so tired of being micromanaged to death. I was so sick of PowerPoint briefings with the attendant bells and whistles. All show and no go.

Junior leaders and soldiers expect that their superiors will unhesitatingly sell them out for personal advantage.

This point is particularly true.

I'm a 'part-timer' in the Nasty Guard now (after swearing I would never put a GD uniform on again).

Now I'm an E-5 (no officer slots in what I wanted to do)-- I'm having fun for a change and completely DGAF. I did not have a second though about resigning my comission....

11 posted on 09/07/2001 10:33:21 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith
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To: Pete53
I was assigned to Company C, 2/12 Cav, 1st Cav Div, in early '75 upon its return to Fort Hood for reconstitution after the battalion had been pretty much shot to pieces. At the time, no one was sure whether the unit would be going back to Vietnam or not and so, initially, the unit was training as AirCav and I personally as a doorgunner and dismounted M60 machinegunner. The Battalion SGM was an E-7 and my First Sergeant was an E-5; the Company Commander was a Captain being medically discharged for his wounds and we had no other officers in the company.

When it was determined that the unit wasn't going back to Vietnam, they took away our helicopters and made us mech infantry (Heavy Cav) ... what a let down.

So, to be honest, I don't know whether or not we were in the "same unit" or not (although I guess, technically, your unit could be written as 3/12 Cav).

12 posted on 09/07/2001 10:38:07 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: CENTVRIO EQVITVM
I find this post very disturbing, especially because I hear about the same things going on in industry. I know it is true about all denominations. The ONLY church leaders who get ahead are hopelessly corrupt liars. Your post is another example of the meltdown of all institutions. I believe the parallel with Viet Nam is there because that conflict broke down (although we won) from the self-indulgent Baby Boomer attitude of the time. Then we made a tragic mistake in electing a president and co-president who exemplied the worst of the 1960's. The virus has spread rapidly.
13 posted on 09/07/2001 10:39:51 AM PDT by Chemnitz
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To: CENTVRIO EQVITVM
Have faith. The lump of Boomers moving through the ranks (now about O-5/O-6+) is thankfully retiring.

While their are still good leaders at high levels, it seems the 'middlin'-high' ones are largely self-serving and rotten.

What's coming up now through the officer ranks (O-1 - O-3) holds promise. The older gen-Xers (young O-4s) are the buffer, and the gen-Yers are the next hope.

They do care for the country and the Army institutions, I think, much more so than the boomers who cared about the country and institution only as far as it would serve them. (hmmmm....legacy builders, where have we seen that lately?)

As for the NCOs, they'll team with the younger officers in order to return to the days of making decisions at the lowest possible level. Many NCOs are disappointed in the responsibilities they are given, and rightly so. What used to be a buck sergeant's decision is now made by a Captain, who has to make a powerpoint brief to an LTC before anything can be done!

Just a few more years and I don't think that will be the case. My prediction is that the new crop of leaders will be refreshingly no-nonsense.

Hang in there...

Kit.

14 posted on 09/07/2001 10:56:04 AM PDT by KitJ
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To: VW-Cat-Man
""To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;""

I've seen this used before on different threads and know that this is the constitutional restriction.

However, as the Congress makes the Defense appropriation every year, it would seem to me .. absent anything other than the words on its face .. that this falls well within this restriction.

In other words, the "Appropriation of Money to that Use" is made every year; the Constitution requires that it be made within every two years. What's the problem?

16 posted on 09/07/2001 11:16:14 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: CENTVRIO EQVITVM
I got oout of the USN in September 1971 with the rank of chief radioman. What you state makes me both sad and angry although I thank you for stating it. SLB has often made similar comments as have many others from Army. Navy, Air Force, Marines and Coast Guard have made similar comments about their services. Unless the situation turns arround and rapidly people will die needlessly. many died in Vietnam needlessly because of the garrison attitude you describe here.

Thank you for this post. The rant needs to be heard.

Stay well - Yorktown

17 posted on 09/07/2001 11:32:08 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: razorback-bert
Thanks for the flag.

Stay well - Yorktown

18 posted on 09/07/2001 11:34:05 AM PDT by harpseal
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