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Stock Market: A Freeper Broker & His Thoughts
9/16/01 | Professional

Posted on 09/16/2001 8:27:18 PM PDT by Professional

I'm a Financial Consultant for a large bank. For those of you that care, here our some of my thoughts, recent events, based on my 10 years in the business.

I have 725 clients and manage about $45 million in assets. These clients are typically blue and white collar folks with medium sized net worths. These people essentially are your "average" American investor.

Not one single customer called with pending "sell" orders. In fact, since Tuesday the branch and my office were like a ghost town. Between customers and employees in tears, all we did was follow the news. On Thursday, my assistant and I called most of our top clients to discuss events. They were very happy we called with news that we were fully operational, but they weren't worried excessively.

I told clients that our bank, the subsidiaries of our company, and our strategic partners were all operational. The European and Asian markets had stabilized somewhat after an initial panic sell off. I let my clients know that their fellow customers weren't heading for the exits.

Since the market had already sold off for over a year, downside was already in the market, sparing us of a DRAMATIC down move. As tragic as the event was, the capital spending to rebuild NY and the activity of the fed would act as a stimulus. Furthermore, Vanguard and Invesco have reported similar declines in calls and very little sell activity.

That said, I did warn of heavy volatility at least through the remainder of the year, as earnings continue to greatly disappoint. There's no kidding ourselves, we will all be affected financially by this event, in the short term.

Fortunately, I've always been pretty conservative with clients. Many of them have high quality bonds in their portfolios and a good mixture of equities has spared them of significant damage. Still,there has been no way of avoiding the bear market we are in. I'm feeling this like you folks no doubtedly are.

Some advice? Well, don't panic, selling now and timing a re entry successfully is virtually impossible and makes losses magnify. If you were lucky to have a very large bond or cash exposure, maybe do some buying. There have been 7 rate cuts in this year. This has happened 4 times in the past, resulting in an average of 24% by the S&P 500 and over 40% by the Russell 2000 (smaller companies). This could actually be a very good buying opportunity, as most market recoveries are signified by the WORST of news. No more money to invest? Well, read the food section of the paper instead of the finance section until things get better. There is no law that says you have to read your statements!

Playing the event for gain usually backfires. Don't call about casket companies etc... In fact, calling your broker and giving him an encouraging word is not only thoughtfull, but puts you at the front of the line next time you need GREAT service or fresh ideas.

This has been a tough time for clients and financial institutions alike, even without tragedy. I wish you the best. I've always loved FR for the deep expertise that WE all bring, happy to share in my two areas, food and finance.


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Granted, some of you are going to flame me. Please spare it this time. I've very rarely given my opinion regarding my profession because it brings out the worst in some here. I'm sick of being asked how long I've been in the business and that all brokers are crooks etc.. If that's what you want to moan about, like I said, spare me. I don't degrade others professions here, nor do I ask career military whether they have been in combat or how many years they have served.
1 posted on 09/16/2001 8:27:18 PM PDT by Professional
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There have been 7 rate cuts in this year. This has happened 4 times in the past, resulting in an average of 24% by the S&P 500 and over 40% by the Russell 2000 (smaller companies).

As measured by the 12 months following the 7th cut.

2 posted on 09/16/2001 8:29:55 PM PDT by Professional
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No flames Professional, your posts are always insightful and appreciated...I am long and staying that way...NQ and ES up on patriotic sympathy tomorrow...just hunch. Thanks for the post.
3 posted on 09/16/2001 8:31:46 PM PDT by oneway
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Also, the 2 months previous to this tragedy had been VERY busy for our company. Business was really picking up because the very low interest rates from banks were essentially forcing people to look for alternatives.

The average bank CD is paying less than 4%. Your average senior citizen is not going to be satisfied with anything less than 5%. This is one of the reasons why the bond market is hot, but money is ALSO going into equities.

4 posted on 09/16/2001 8:32:52 PM PDT by Professional
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Long term, I like it. Short term, I don't. I wouldn't invest the grocery money tomorrow.

I think you do a great job, Professional, with your comments and insights here, and I always look forward to reading them. Let's both cross our fingers for tomorrow, and the balance of next week. I think these next few days will tell us a lot.

5 posted on 09/16/2001 8:33:54 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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Thanks, I got flamed HARD on another post because I didn't spell Vanguard correctly.
6 posted on 09/16/2001 8:34:02 PM PDT by Professional
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The markets have been manipulated in the past, for the good. This may be a time when the big institutions, fed, and build a burger types actually try to do something positive.
7 posted on 09/16/2001 8:35:19 PM PDT by Professional
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As I have said on previous posts,I'm buying. For two reasons,1) I see bargains 2)patriotism.
8 posted on 09/16/2001 8:36:09 PM PDT by mdittmar
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I'm sick of being asked how long I've been in the business

I don't know why.  Before I took any advice regarding
my finances, I'd like to know if the broker has any experience.
When someone asks me how long I have been in my profession,
I am proud to tell them.  Be well, friend.

9 posted on 09/16/2001 8:37:32 PM PDT by gcruse
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Another interesting note. ICA, a fund by American Funds, has a cash position of 20%. I think it is the 3rd largest fund in the country, with about $50 billion. Their cash positions are in US Govt bonds due in mid to late December. I felt that they may have been lining themselves up for some heavy buying in December. Maybe they cash in and start buying now? Either way, that money needs to buy equities, it isn't a balanced fund.
10 posted on 09/16/2001 8:37:50 PM PDT by Professional
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They weren't asking politely.
11 posted on 09/16/2001 8:38:28 PM PDT by Professional
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You're not my broker, but I'll send you encouraging words nonetheless. Great post.
12 posted on 09/16/2001 8:38:36 PM PDT by bloodmeridian
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resulting in an average of 24% by the S&P 500 and over 40% by the Russell 2000 (smaller companies).

Not clear. Increase or decrease?

13 posted on 09/16/2001 8:38:52 PM PDT by RightWhale
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Im sitting on a lot of stock...my father was a buy and holder....I am determines to hang in even though Im down a lot...most is blue chip ...some tech
14 posted on 09/16/2001 8:39:28 PM PDT by woofie
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I'm planning on calling our broker tomorrow. I may buy, or I may say, hi,are you okay?
15 posted on 09/16/2001 8:40:09 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
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Thank you for the great post, Professional. I appreciate your insight.
16 posted on 09/16/2001 8:41:35 PM PDT by artw
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"Granted, some of you are going to flame me."

"Flame" you???? You can't be serious. I find your post encouraging, courageous in a professional way, well thought-out, and eminently sensible. God bless you.

17 posted on 09/16/2001 8:42:20 PM PDT by RightOnline
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I already have an order in to my broker to purchase 200 shares of CISCO tomorrow......I chose that particular stock because they were one of the first to make a substantial contribution to the NY Disaster Fund.

I urge others to

Annoy a Terrorist......Invest in America!

18 posted on 09/16/2001 8:45:38 PM PDT by JulieRNR21
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If we know the economic shockwaves are going to be hitting us in the next few months, then we also know that those in the markets are going to base their trading on this...starting Monday morning.

I heard talk of patriotic buying, I just don't see this going too far.

Maybe, at best, we'll see light trading? I would love to see a rally. I think this could really help in the consumer confidence area. If we could all pull together in every area, I think we can shock the world and remind them how great America can be.

19 posted on 09/16/2001 8:46:35 PM PDT by kidkosmic1
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Great minds think alike!
20 posted on 09/16/2001 8:47:55 PM PDT by mdittmar
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