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Do You Have a Will?
me | 10-10-01 | mykdsmom

Posted on 10/10/2001 8:16:33 AM PDT by mykdsmom

This has been a rather sore subject between my husband and I. I have been nagging him to have a will drawn up for years and he has never looked into it. Well I've reached the conclusion that he is extremely uncomfortable even talking about the subject so have decided that if it's to be done I will have to be the one to do it.

He isn't willing to invest big bucks to a lawyer to do this but has agreeed to FINALLY making out a will so our kids would get our estate and not the state of NC.

My question is...Where do I start?. There are a lot of do it yourself Will kits out there but are they even legal and binding.

I know there are some lawyers on FR as well as others that have gone through or are going through this too. What do you think? What is the best way to approach this?

We are both traveling apart from each other next week and would also like to have something in writing before these trips. Also because of the iffy safety situation in the country right now I'm feeling a sense of urgency to do this now.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

MKM


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1 posted on 10/10/2001 8:16:33 AM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: mykdsmom
A simple will is very inexpensive at an attorney's office. For $100 or less you can have a bit of peace that is unquestionably legal. Do it and you'll wonder why you waited so long.
2 posted on 10/10/2001 8:19:55 AM PDT by DSHambone
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To: mykdsmom
I recommend Quicken family lawyer- you can create a will with that. Then when you take it to your lawyer you will be better prepared and organized. He might recommend to change or add some things, but the software and preparation will usually save you a few bucks in billing time.
3 posted on 10/10/2001 8:26:49 AM PDT by ruppertdog
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To: mykdsmom
If you need something more detailed (setting up trusts for kids in the event you both die), it can still be fairly inexpensive for the piece of mind it affords ($500 - $1000 depending on the area of the country in which you live).
4 posted on 10/10/2001 8:28:39 AM PDT by Myrnick
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To: mykdsmom
I absolutely agree with both previous posts. We have just gone through this with the death of my Mother-in-law, bless her soul.

We used the interview mode in Quicken Family Lawyer to draw up a draft will. Then we went to a local attorney to tweak it. To be honest, all he did was add places for initials on each page, and arranged for disinterested parties to sign as witnesses. Cost us about $125.

5 posted on 10/10/2001 8:30:13 AM PDT by HiJinx
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I'm not a lawyer, but I think you'll find that lawyers don't charge a huge sum for preparing a simple will.

However, if you've got a simple estate, and you're absolutely positive that nobody in your family would contest your wills if you died, then buy Quicken's WillMaker, or any other reputable company's will making software.

This is what I've done. I figure a lawyer-prepared will is a necessity only if there's a contest after the fact, or if you've got a few million bux the state would like to have. For the rest of us, there's software.

Just my non-lawyer opinion, FWIW.

6 posted on 10/10/2001 8:34:11 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: mykdsmom
First a necessary disclaimer -- I am an attorney, but I am not licensed to practice law in the State of North Carolina, and at any rate, what follows is not intended to offer nor does it constitute legal advice. You should obtain the advice of an attorney licensed to practice in NC and you should not rely on what I'm about to say here. (If that doesn't prove I'm an attorney, I don't know what will.) :)

Each state has its own laws in this area, though many states will be substantially similar. In my own state, holographic (handwritten) wills are legal (but not necessarily advisable in any case). You should check the law for NC -- or better yet, check with an attorney there. As someone else said, it is definitely worth the cost for the peace of mind.

One other thing -- you really needn't worry about the state getting everything if you die intestate (without a will). That only occurs when no relatives can be found. What you might worry about is exactly how your estate would be distributed under the laws of NC. For instance, if you have any kind of messy step-kid / divorce history (doesn't sound like you do), then the distribution (who gets what and what percentage) may not be what you would have wanted.

Now, grab your yellow pages and start dialing for attorneys. Questions to ask: Do you do wills? How much do you charge for a simple will? How many have you done? I would also ask: Do you have any experience doing intervivos trusts?

Good luck and God bless you and yours.

7 posted on 10/10/2001 8:36:17 AM PDT by Aristophanes
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To: mykdsmom
If you have assets over $600,000(Including Life Insurance Policies!!!!!), it is imperative that you see a lawyer and be prepared to spend a thousands bucks. It will save your heirs a lot more than that ultimately.
8 posted on 10/10/2001 8:36:45 AM PDT by Rodney King
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To: DSHambone
Find a Pre-Paid legal rep. For a measly 16 bucks a month ou get all kinds of legal coverage... PLUS a free will... updated yearly at no extra charge. Whale of a deal if you ask me. I am a happy member.

I got mine here

9 posted on 10/10/2001 8:37:09 AM PDT by smoking camels
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To: HiJinx
I worked in Army JAG for 20 years. I have done about 25,000 or more wills in that time. Everyone should have a will, regardless of the size of your estate. If you do not have a will, then the laws of the state where you live kicks in and it can take months or years sometimes to get things straightened out. If you and your spouse were to die at once and had children, who would take care of the kids, sell the house, handle the money for the kids, etc. It is not just money here if you have a family. You can appoint someone to take custody of your children and see that the estate is handled in accordance with your wishes. I am 50 years old. I have had a will since I was 19 and had it done before I went to Vietnam. I wanted my car to go to my best friend and that was the only way I could be sure he got it in the event I were killed in Nam. EVERYONE needs a will. Go do it. It is money well spent. Check your yellow pages and pick an attorney that does wills and estates or check the yellow pages in the front for a number to an attorney referral service. After selecting an attorney, you can call the local county and call the state bar to check up on this attorney to make sure he/she has no black marks against them. ALWAYS call the local bar association or state bar when in doubt about an attorney's status! Always. No, I am not an attorney, but I work with them now in a law office in Seattle and in the Army. There are actually some very good attorneys. I have several good ones here and they are CONSERVATIVES like me!!!!!
10 posted on 10/10/2001 8:39:31 AM PDT by RetiredArmy
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To: mykdsmom
Another thing to consider if your children are under 18 and don't have legal God-parents,is who would care for them if you and your husband both passed away while they were still minors.

I know many people who have drafted wills to deal with all their finances and forgotten to express their wishes involving the raising of their children. This is extremely important if you think that different family members might contest each other over this. Unfortunately this happens quite often.

11 posted on 10/10/2001 8:44:42 AM PDT by Aerohawk
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To: mykdsmom
Your hunch about your husband's uncomfortableness with the subject of death is probably correct.

And you are absolutely correct to get on with this.

Getting a will, even setting up a trust, is not all that expensive!

Another thing...you don't say how old your children are, but if they are minors, it's imperative to establish guardianship for them, too, just in case something should happen to both you and your husband.

Good luck! And don't give up.

12 posted on 10/10/2001 8:48:29 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher
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To: mykdsmom
Not only do I have a Will, I have 4 envelopes that contain my photo, my xrays, my blood type and hair samples in case I end up in a situation where it will be difficult to identify me. The envelopes are with my mother, my lawyer, my agent and one in my home.
13 posted on 10/10/2001 8:54:41 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: mykdsmom
If you have assets more than $100,000 a living trust would be a far better choice. These too can be drafted without an attorney.
14 posted on 10/10/2001 8:57:33 AM PDT by scottiewottie
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To: mykdsmom
I'm a North Carolina lawyer, but don't consider this legal advice. Legal advice varies with your particular facts.

If you use inhuman, impersonal software to make plans about the rest of your life, you will also get a slipshod will. You should see an attorney. If cost is a problem, tell him that, but realize you will get what you pay for. If you have a house, life insurance, 401(k) and kids, you may need a trust depending on how worried you are about estate taxes being around upon death. Who knows what Congress will do? A will makes things much simpler when probate time comes. Also, it makes it clear that all of your husbands things will pass to you, and not as set forth by the legislature. And we've all seen how stupid North Carolina's legislature can be lately.

You may also want to meet with a financial planner who will help you prepare for your children's education, life insurance needs and retirement, and in those discussions, the need for a will should become evident. This could be a backdoor way to convince him of the need for the will.

15 posted on 10/10/2001 9:04:24 AM PDT by Darth Reagan
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To: scottiewottie
If you have assets more than $100,000 a living trust would be a far better choice. These too can be drafted without an attorney.

And, you can rewire your house without an electrician, replace your headgasket without a mechanic and set a broken bone without a doctor, but I wouldn't advise it.

16 posted on 10/10/2001 9:08:32 AM PDT by Darth Reagan
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Wow..great idea. I never would have thought to do that.

MKM

17 posted on 10/10/2001 9:08:34 AM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: Molly Pitcher
I have 3 kids. My daughter from my first marriage is 18. Now that I think about trying to fairly divide the estate between 3 children, 2 of which are fathered by my husband now and her I think hiring a lawyer would be the best idea. How to make this fair? YIKES.

I have 2 sons ages 4 and 6 with my current and "last" husband ; ) (I learned from my mistakes and DID NOT repeat them).

We are going to ask my brother and SIL if they will be willing to be guardians. If they say no then I'm in a bit of trouble because basically I feel my parents are too old and have done their duty and my sister is too young and immature. My husbands family are all divorced and totally dysfunctional. I'm fairly confident my brother will agree though.

MKM

18 posted on 10/10/2001 9:14:08 AM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: Darth Reagan
Darth, Do you feel getting the software simply to organize details first and also to get "something" in writing rather than the "nothing" we have now, would be an appropriate choice for the immediate? I have every intention of seeing a lawyer about this now after reading everyone's responses.

However, I feel I want to get something in place before I leave to fly to FL and go on a cruise next week and hubby drives to NY with my boys to visit grandma.

MKM

19 posted on 10/10/2001 9:19:50 AM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: Darth Reagan
I am NOT a lawyer! In the interest of full disclosure let me state that I tend to be a bit on the anti-lawyer side.

BUT! I have to agree. From my perspective on this issue, I believe it is a huge mistake to use pre-printed forms or some generic software to prepare a will.

If you take a will like that to your attorney ask them if they will do that first.

I had a real, live (and they are the GOOD guys to boot!) lawyer do my will... plus I get a LOT of services from him... for a measly 16 bucks a month!

20 posted on 10/10/2001 9:25:18 AM PDT by smoking camels
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