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Posted on 10/17/2001 9:56:05 AM PDT by white trash redneck

Can somebody please tell me how to cut and paste a news article while preserving the HTML formatting. It is getting very tiresome to go through an article, paragraph by paragraph, inserting line and paragraph breaks, and losing any graphics. I have looked in the HTML primer, and while it tells me how to do my own HTML formatting, I can't find where it says how to preserve (or show) existing HTML formatting.

Feel free to email me privately if the answer is so obvious that it's not worth distracting other readers.


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1 posted on 10/17/2001 9:56:05 AM PDT by white trash redneck
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To: white trash redneck
I'd like to know, also, WTR.
2 posted on 10/17/2001 10:00:23 AM PDT by I_Publius
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To: white trash redneck
When you are on the site where the article is posted...go to:

1) View on the browers toolbar
2) Click on source

Cut article from source code...

Paste into posting field on FR.

3 posted on 10/17/2001 10:01:37 AM PDT by ResistorSister
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To: white trash redneck
Start HERE I found this information EXTREMELY Helpful in learning HTML format:

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4 posted on 10/17/2001 10:09:23 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: I_Publius; white trash redneck
I'd like to know, also, WTR.
See my post #4 to WTR. This should be a great help. It's REALLY easy and doesn't take much time. You can spend < 30 minutes there and go to the sandbox to practice your new skills and your posts will look good and be very easy. You can go back and learn more and more. PLEASE NOTE: Recent changes on FR have changed the HTML codes??? Be aware of that and feel free to contact me. I'll help if I can, ok?

Good luck and have fun! ;-)

5 posted on 10/17/2001 10:16:16 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: white trash redneck
You white trash redneck.
6 posted on 10/17/2001 10:18:40 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: white trash redneck; JohnHuang2
Hey, John! Can you give us some input here?

Thanks!

7 posted on 10/17/2001 10:25:53 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: ResistorSister
Ding! Ding! Ding! Correct! You have won the grand prize! (Thunderous applause)

In addition, there is an add on available to Win2k (maybe 98 or "Me" also, I'm not certain) from Microsoft that, when installed, allows one to right click on any selected text and copy the partial source. I find it very handy.

By the way, gotta love those Tesla coils! BZZZZZZAAAAAPPPP!!! {;-)

8 posted on 10/17/2001 10:28:18 AM PDT by Hoosier Patriot
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To: white trash redneck
Just 'right click' on the article...go to view source and lo and behold there's your formatted article with all its glorious HTML commands in place. Just copy and paste. For images, you may have to work with the URL. ie. the images may only have the last end of the URL and you'll have to fill it out from the complete URL.

Links==> <A HREF="http://link/url/here">title here - to make links</A>

Images==> <img src=place your url here>

9 posted on 10/17/2001 10:40:20 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: white trash redneck
I think that ResistorSister and Hoosier Patriot are on to something!! I went to PMSNBC to try her method and here's the result. There's some "noise" or "garbage" in this post, but there's a LOT more graphics and it mimicks the original much more closely than I would have been able to detail myself. I learned something from your post. Many THANKS, WTR!:

Sharon vows war ‘to the bitter end’

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Sharon vows war ‘to the bitter end’
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Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, right, accompanied by Foreign Minister Shimon Peres stand during a minute of silence in memory of Tourism Minister Rehavam Zeevi in parliament on Wednesday.
Zeevi’s assassination is a serious blow to Mideast peace talks, reports NBC’s Martin Fletcher.
   
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    JERUSALEM, Oct. 17 —   Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon blamed Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat for Wednesday’s assassination of a Cabinet minister and vowed to wage “war to the bitter end” against terrorists. The possibility of stiff retaliation is likely to roil U.S. efforts to calm the region as it struggles to retain Arab support for its own war on terrorism following the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States.  

     
     
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       ONE OR MORE gunmen shot and killed Tourism Minister Rehavam Zeevi with three bullets to the head and neck in Jerusalem hotel. A radical Palestinian faction said it carried out the assassination to avenge the killing of its leader by Israel two months ago.
       The killing of Zeevi, 75, who advocated the ouster of all Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza Strip, threatened to re-ignite the cycle of violence that has wracked the holy land for the last year.
       It came at a time when the U.S.-supported Sept. 26 cease-fire appeared to be holding in many areas and a day after Sharon outlined his position in future peace talks, saying he was willing to negotiate an accord that includes a Palestinian state, but would dictate strict limitations that Palestinians have already rejected.
       Following the attack, Sharon convened Cabinet ministers for urgent consultations. According to a government source quoted by Reuters, the prime minister equated the impact of the assassination to the Sept. 11 terrorist strikes on New York and Washington.

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       “From today everything has changed just as President Bush said after the 11th of September,” the source quoted Sharon as telling senior security and cabinet officials.

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       Following the hijacking attacks on New York, Pennsylvania and Washington, the United States declared a war on terrorism while announcing that Saudi exile Osama bin Laden was the prime suspect in the strikes that killed more than 5,000 people.
       On Oct. 7, U.S. forces launched airstrikes on Afghanistan, which has offered protection to bin Laden and his al-Qaida terrorist network.
       But the military campaign has required a delicate diplomatic dance by Washington as it needs support for a range of Muslim nations, most of whom are hostile to Israel.
       For example, President Bush said last week that Syria has expressed a desire to help with the anti-terror coalition and “we’ll give them an opportunity to do so.”
       But Syria is also the base of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, which claimed responsibility for Wednesday’s killing.
       Earlier this month, Sharon was forced to apologize after he expressed irritation about the U.S. courting of Arab nations, suggesting it was similiar to efforts to placate Germany before World War II.

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       In a first response to Zeevi’s assassination, Israel reimposed some travel restrictions in the West Bank it had lifted earlier this week as part of a Sept. 26 truce deal that had appeared to be taking hold in many areas.
       Arafat’s government said in a statement that it condemned the killing and remained committed to a truce with Israel. Palestinian security officials said Arafat has ordered the arrests of the suspected assailants.
       In the past year of fighting, Israel has killed more than 50 Palestinians, including several bystanders, in such attacks.
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       The highest-ranking target so far has been Mustafa Zibri, leader of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, who was killed Aug. 27 in an Israeli rocket attack on his office in the West Bank town of Ramallah.
       The PFLP on Wednesday said the killing of Zeevi was revenge for the death of its leader, widely known as Abu Ali Mustafa.
       “Sharon has to know that Palestinian blood is not cheap and that those who target the leaders of the Palestinian people are not safe from being targeted and assassinated themselves,” the PFLP said in a leaflet sent to news agencies.
       Sharon said earlier this week that he would not abandon the targeted killings, despite the truce and sharp U.S. condemnation of the practice.
Israeli border police stand guard outside the Hyatt hotel in east Jerusalem following the assassination of Israel's Tourism Minister Rehavam Zeevi.
Image: Hotel where minister was killed
       Zeevi was staying with his wife at the Hyatt Hotel in Jerusalem on Wednesday. At about 7 a.m., he was returning from the hotel restaurant to his eighth-floor room when he was attacked outside his room, police said. He was shot three times in the head and face. Zeevi’s wife, Yael, found him in the hallway, lying on his back in a pool of blood, witnesses said.
       A fellow hotel guest, Rev. David Hocking, said he rushed into the hall after hearing Mrs. Zeevi’s screams. “I saw her kneeling over him. He had obviously been shot. The blood was everywhere,” said Hocking, who is leading a Christian tour group from Orange County, Calif.
       Zeevi was clinically dead when he arrived at Hadassah Hospital, said Shmuel Shapira, the deputy director. Doctors managed to restore a heartbeat at one point, but after about three hours abandoned efforts to revive Zeevi.


A year of tumult.
       At Ein el-Hilweh, Lebanon’s largest Palestinian refugee camp, about 40 PFLP supporters with guns and pictures of Zibri danced and distributed sweets after hearing about Zeevi’s shooting. Cheers intensified with the news that he had died.

MEMORIAL SESSION
       Addressing a special session of parliament, Sharon pointed the finger at Arafat. “The responsibility is Arafat’s alone, as someone who has carried out and is carrying out acts of terrorism and never took steps against it,” he said.
       “We will carry out a war to the bitter end against the terrorists, those who help them and those who dispatch them,” the prime minister said.
       Sharon said that by providing a haven for “murderers,” Arafat’s Palestinian Authority showed that it seeks “the destruction of the state of Israel” and “opposes peace in the deepest sense.”
       Britain condemned Zeevi’s killing and called for intensified efforts to revive the Middle East peace process. “The murder this morning is absolutely appalling and it just refocuses the need to get the peace process moving again,” said a spokesman for Prime Minister Tony Blair.



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Zeevi, a retired army general, was widely respected, even by political opponents, for his distinguished war record, but his advocacy of what he called the “transfer” of Palestinians across the borders into neighboring Arab countries was condemned by many as racist.
       “I had enormous respect for him even though we didn’t agree on politics,” said Science Minister Matan Vilnai, also a retired general, who served under Zeevi in the paratroops. “His personal loyalty knew no bounds.”
       Born in Jerusalem, Zeevi served from 1974 to 1977 as adviser to then-Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin on the war against terrorism. He opposed Israel’s 1979 peace treaty with Egypt and in 1988 founded the far-right Moledet Party that called for the “voluntary transfer” of Arabs from Israeli-controlled territory.
       Zeevi sparked controversy in July for referring to Palestinians working and living illegally in Israel as “lice” and a “cancer.”
       He was widely known by the incongruous nickname “Gandhi,” acquired because his youthful thinness reminded people of the pacifist Indian independence leader Mohandas K. Gandhi.

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       On Monday, Zeevi and other members of the National Union, a bloc of two small parties, said they were quitting Sharon’s government. Zeevi and his allies argued Sharon was succumbing to U.S. pressure and that his policies toward the Palestinians were too soft.
       The exit of the National Union, which controls seven seats in the 120-member parliament, did not endanger Sharon’s coalition government. However, Sharon, a hard-liner, now becomes more dependent on the moderate Labor Party.
       

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Leader: Mohammed Deff, most dreaded Hamas bomber
Influence: The military wing of Hamas
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Leader: Ayman al-Zawahiri
Influence: The Egyptian Islamic Jihad has been active since the 1970s targeting high-level Egyptian Government officials and playing a role, U.S. officials believe, in the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya.
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Leader: Amin el-Hindi and his deputy, Tawfik Tirawi
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10 posted on 10/17/2001 10:43:26 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Hoosier Patriot
gotta love those Tesla coils! BZZZZZZAAAAAPPPP!!! {;-)

Yeah...first I will build a Tesla coil...then I am going to try building his "death-ray". Talk about a BZZZZZAAAAPPPPP!!!!

;-)

11 posted on 10/17/2001 10:47:50 AM PDT by ResistorSister
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To: Hoosier Patriot
OMG! I just saw MeeknMing's post...I have given the info that will unleach - THE HOUNDS OF POSTINGS.
12 posted on 10/17/2001 10:50:38 AM PDT by ResistorSister
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To: MeeknMing
Dear MeeknMing...it is not good posting etiquette to include all of the advertisement and headers.

Use restraint with your new found knowledge...don't cut and paste EVERYTHING in the source code.

13 posted on 10/17/2001 10:53:25 AM PDT by ResistorSister
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To: ResistorSister
Use restraint with your new found knowledge....

Please, I beg of you, when you get the death ray completed, heed your own words!

Or, at the very least, remember I'm on your side!! {;-)

14 posted on 10/17/2001 10:58:20 AM PDT by Hoosier Patriot
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To: Hoosier Patriot
LOL!!!! That is too funny.
15 posted on 10/17/2001 11:00:22 AM PDT by ResistorSister
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To: white trash redneck
Funny new song parody! Bush and Powell do Day-O!
16 posted on 10/17/2001 11:03:11 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: white trash redneck
If you go to the Microsoft site and visit Tools for Internet Explorer, you can install the "Developer's" add-on tools. This will allow you to highlight a segment of text, right-click on it, and choose "View Partial Source." Then you can paste from the Partial Source window into the FR Preview window. Make sure it looks OK and there are no loose HTML tags, and then post it. That way you can post an article without including all the peripheral matter and without having to edit an extract from the source for the whole page, which can be pretty difficult.
17 posted on 10/17/2001 11:03:28 AM PDT by Cicero
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To: Cicero
BOOKMARKED!

Does it work the same way to post the member since bar on member profile?

18 posted on 10/17/2001 11:08:34 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: white trash redneck
They're pulling your leg!

In search, type in: Am I Logged In?, and read every post.

19 posted on 10/17/2001 11:14:34 AM PDT by FreedomFarmer
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To: ResistorSister; white trash redneck
Dear MeeknMing...it is not good posting etiquette to include all of the advertisement and headers.

Use restraint with your new found knowledge...don't cut and paste EVERYTHING in the source code.


Dear ResistorSister. . .Thanks for the major-league clue. This will come back to haunt you. Sorry!

PS: LOL! Just kidding! ;-) Thanks for your post with the source code hint. I only posted that article here to illustrate that copying all the text does give one all the graphical stuff, etc. so WTR would see it for an EXAMPLE of what your method produces. Obviously, you wouldn't want to post all the banner ads, etc. ;-)

20 posted on 10/17/2001 11:15:54 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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