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Have you, as a conservative, been discriminated against?

Posted on 10/25/2001 12:25:43 AM PDT by Coastman5

I am starting a web page for posting reviews of anti-conservative attitudes at my university. I would also like to hear from people who have stories to tell about being discriminated because you are a conservative, even if it was outside of a university setting. I am going to sue San Francisco State for a death threat I received as a result of a professor's slander. The campus police were not helpful and so there was plenty of negligence. I would be grateful to anyone who is knowledgeable about law to get in touch with me. I do need some guidance. Thanks, and come to my web site The SFSU Monitor to tell me any suggestions on what I said. I plan to put an ad in the campus paper and hope that I will get people to send their complaints for me to post.


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1 posted on 10/25/2001 12:25:43 AM PDT by Coastman5 (jk897@aol.com)
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To: Coastman5
I am starting a web page for posting reviews of anti-conservative attitudes at my university.

You'd better have lots of room, particularly if you want stories from students in liberals arts majors. The entrenched world of academia includes few conservatives outside of schools of business and engineering and the like.

I once heard Bill Bennett say that he was selected as Reagan's Secretary of Education because he was one of only three professors in the country that voted for Reagan. An exaggeration for effect? Sure. But not by much.

I was miserable during my undergrad years. By the time I went to grad school, I learned prudence as to which battles were worth fighting. And, I went to conservative schools. I can't even imagine weeding my way through the most liberal of our universities.

2 posted on 10/25/2001 12:38:15 AM PDT by Exigence
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To: Coastman5
I think a better question is: Have you, as a conservative, never been discriminated against? A good poll question.
3 posted on 10/25/2001 12:54:43 AM PDT by hsszionist
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To: Coastman5
Go to frontpage.com and contact David Horowitz by e-mail for guidance. Horowitz is a warrior. You will need him.
4 posted on 10/25/2001 1:11:14 AM PDT by onyx
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To: Coastman5
Good luck in your fight. I know how wacked out it is on the left coast, and how truly evil the left can be. They will probably fight your truths with bigger lies, and continue to get away with it, but I salute you for taking on the fight. If you get down, remember that you are indeed brave. Brave in the fact that you could just quietly finish your degree and play by their rules. You have already lost some, but you are taking the chance of losing more because of your beliefs and your principles, not to mention your pride. These are all worth fighting for. Remember Washington, Adams, and Jefferson all had it pretty good here, and they still were willing to sacrifice everything for their principles. I hope this inspires you.
5 posted on 10/25/2001 1:22:32 AM PDT by GeorgeWBiscuit
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To: Coastman5
Have you, as a conservative, been discriminated against?

I'm pretty sure that's the reason Pamela Anderson wouldn't give me the time of day.

6 posted on 10/25/2001 1:23:20 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Coastman5
I've been discriminated against because I smoke cigarettes.
Does that count? The liberals out here in California don't like it.
7 posted on 10/25/2001 1:30:44 AM PDT by ledzep75
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To: Coastman5
Believe it or not .. you should be able to get the ACLU involved in this. I had a guest in my channel, who was fighting Columbia University for a biased Sexual Misconduct policy. Karl Ward believed that Columbia was teaching a biased lesson which led to his association with the ACLU on campus, where he is fighting for the civil liberties and related academic freedoms of the students.

You can read about his story at:

http://www.ircpolitics.org/guests/karlward.html

Also, you need to contact FIRE. FIRE is a nonprofit educational foundation devoted to free speech, individual liberty, religious freedom, the rights of conscience, legal equality, due process, and academic freedom on our nation's campuses. Here is their url:

http://www.thefire.org/programs.php3

Hope this helps.

8 posted on 10/25/2001 1:35:45 AM PDT by CometBaby
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To: Coastman5
As a Canadian university professor I must say I never have had any problems arising from my right wing beliefs.

That is because when I am on campus, I teach my classes, (mathematics), and keep my mouth shut about other matters.

From personal experience I know that amongst all areas of society there is the LEAST freedom of speech on university campuses.

This is true both in the US and in Canada, but MUCH more so in Canada.

9 posted on 10/25/2001 1:43:09 AM PDT by Nogbad
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To: Coastman5
My user name is "Hostage" because my views and perspectives are held back against my will.

Early on while working on my doctorate, in our Department's offices, I was asked by a Ph.D. candidate from Burma "what was the reason for all these guns?" In the presence of a junior faculty member, a known sympathizer of communism and Democrat raised under the Detroit machine, I explained the principle of the 2nd Amendment, that it was based on checking tyranny by common ordinary citizens, that the founders knew history which could be summed up in elementary fashion that "the guy with the most weapons wins" and "the predator stands back from an armed prey". The Ph.D. candidate from Burma nodded their head in understanding and thanked me, the simplicity of my explanation had impressed the faculty member (which surprised me).

Then there followed a question of what were the differences between the Democrats and the Republicans. I responded that basically Republicans encouraged less government, less taxes, more personal responsibility and self-reliance in their politics whereas the Democrats supported more socialistic programs which required higher taxes. But and this a big but, I commented "the Democrats say they are for the little guy and accuse Republicans of being only for the rich, yet there are more Democrat millionaires in the U.S. Congress than Republican millionaires". I'll never forget the wild look in the faculty member's eye. I ended up backing off and fleeing.

This comment forever branded me as a conservative republican sympathizer. I was isolated from others, left to wander on my own, accused of being a loner. I found friends, closet conservative professors, but I learned to keep my mouth shut, if I was expected to ever finish. In time I became a recluse but had escaped the snipes of liberals. Much later the department staff became more sympathetic and I became known as a quiet good student.

After finishing my qualifying exams at the top of my department and advancing to candidacy, there was a brief lull in the hatred I felt all around me, but later I learned that a liberal faculty member was investigating the legality of removing a student that had passed all qualifying exams and met all other requirements for a degree. In other words, there were some members of the faculty that were looking for any pretext to kick me out. I outsmarted them but I had to walk on eggshells for years and still do.

The institution where I performed my research was and is prestigious and it is extremely hard to get accepted. But in this hard science there were about 50% men and 50% women as opposed to other hard sciences where there is normally a disproportionate number of men. To have so many women in the program was actually a good objective. I met alot of fine women, talented and every bit qualified to be in the program. But the worst of the liberal mentality was displayed by some of the women. It was the time of "Hillary, the strong woman syndrome", and I as a male suffered alot of abuse. As pleasant, as gracious, kind and understanding as I could be a good listener (and I was very silent mostly), there were a cadre of women that looked upon me with condescending glare, that I should be viewed as responsible for all that was ill with their world (and they made no effort to even know me). They would huddle and talk about how to cause confrontation with males and win, how to form sister support groups where they would strategize about how best to retain power over men. Some of them eventually became their own worst enemy.

Once in seminar, my results were challenged by a liberal female student from Canada. She was the worst kind of liberal. I kindly attempted to explain my findings (which were rock solid) with the utmost tact that I could muster, but she would have none of it. It was turning into a political inquisition. But then another male candidate pointed out where her logic failed and why my research was correct citing the work of an esteemed scientist. In the years that followed he was branded and made to suffer as I was, but thank God he made it (good going Patrick!).

By the way, liberal totalitarians are found not only in the Social Sciences, but also the hard sciences of medical research as well. I earned my Doctorate in a hard science which perhaps made it somewhat easier politically, but it was and still is difficult to work in a field where I cannot express myself freely. I have to thank the moderators and volunteers of this forum for giving me lifeline to hold on to. Thanks FR!

10 posted on 10/25/2001 3:32:10 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: Coastman5
Things have changed only in degree since I was at the university in the late 1960's and as a graduate student in the early 1970's. Estimates at the time suggested that some 25% of faculty members at elite institutions could be considered marxists or socialists, 60% modern liberals (Democrats) and maybe 15% conservative or libertarian, most of the conservatives being older faculty members who had taken their degrees before WWII. A few years later at a prestigious law school, I found about 20% of the faculty to be conservative, 55-60% liberal and 20-25% radical or marxist.

In my experience, there wasn't a whole lot of discrimination from the faculty on the basis of one's politics. I was fortunate as a graduate student in history, philosophy and economics that I had mentors who were old-style believers in academic freedom, mostly fairly conservative with a libertarian bent, but a couple of leftists who actually took opposing views seriously and encouraged real debate. I admit I mostly stayed away from the known liberal or marxist ideologues. The greatest visible pressure was from graduate student peers and undergraduate radicals. I think where bias most asserted itself was in hiring, in my experience conservative graduate students had great difficulty in getting academic jobs, regardless of their qualifications. Many of us simply opted out and took additional professional or business degrees and went out and made money.

The biggest change I've noticed in may associations with universities is the loss of the distinguished older conservative voices and the intolerance of the younger faculty, who tend to be more radical than liberal.

11 posted on 10/25/2001 4:50:54 AM PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: Coastman5
I work for the civil service and have autographed pictures of G. Gordon Liddy, Ronald Reagan, and Charleton Heston (holding a musket at present arms) on the wall of my office. When I joined the civil service, I refused to join the union and, for the most part haven't had any problem with being conservation and NOT a member of the union.

However, the union rep for our section refuses to enter my office for any reason; she informed me that, because of my politics and the pictures that I had on my wall, she would never do so. In fact, she won't even stand in the doorway where she can see them.

I don't know if that's being discriminated against or not ... in fact, I view it as a blessing.

8')

12 posted on 10/25/2001 5:00:03 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: Coastman5
When I was in college, I was President of the College Republicans. We lived in the same hall as the leaders of the College Democrats. We ate together everyday and partied with them all the time. We both went to state conventions. But the Democrats always got money from the Student Senate to go but we could not. Once they got money to go and didn't even go.
13 posted on 10/25/2001 5:07:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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