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Taliban Offer Conditional Surrender
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 11/18/01

Posted on 11/18/2001 8:58:55 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar

Taliban offer conditional surrender

November 18, 2001

BY ELLEN KNICKMEYER ASSOCIATED PRESS

BANGI, Afghanistan -- Defenders of the last Taliban stronghold in northern Afghanistan made a conditional offer of surrender Sunday after a day of devastating U.S. airstrikes, the opposition northern alliance said.

U.S. B-52s led a day of intense bombing on Taliban positions outside the city of Kunduz, sending huge fireballs skyward. On Sunday evening, an opposition commander said the Taliban had offered to give up provided there was a guarantee of safety for foreign fighters loyal to Osama bin Laden.

Refugees fleeing the city of Kunduz over the weekend, meanwhile, told of terror at the hands of Taliban troops and bin Laden loyalists. One described a doctor shot and killed for not treating a wounded Taliban fast enough, and others said eight teen-age boys were killed for laughing at Taliban soldiers.

Witnesses also said at least 100 Taliban soldiers were shot, apparently by gunmen from their own side, as they approached northern alliance lines in an attempt to surrender.

The conditional surrender offer was reported by an opposition commander, Nahidullah, who said it was made during negotiations conducted by radio with the Taliban. The Taliban said they would surrender if the alliance guaranteed that non-Afghans fighting alongside them would not be killed and if the surrender were witnessed by United Nations representatives.

There are an estimated 3,000 non-Afghans fighting with the Taliban in Kunduz, including Arabs believed to be affiliated with bin Laden's al-Qaida terrorist network as well as Pakistanis.

There was no immediate word whether the opposition alliance has accepted the offer.

Elsewhere in Afghanistan, a private news agency said U.S. bombardment of Taliban positions in their home base of Kandahar in the south and outside the eastern city of Jalalabad had killed more than 70 people overnight. The reports could not be independently confirmed.

The latest American bombardment of Taliban lines outside Kunduz used the largest bombs yet unleashed in the area. Flames shot into the air, and cracking booms echoed across the valley floor toward the northern alliance's own foxholes in opposing ridges. Avalanches of soil cascaded down the targeted hillsides.

Taliban soldiers could be seen running out on the distant ridges, trying to find cover.

Northern alliance forces had moved a multiple-rocket launcher and two tanks up to the road that is the eastern approach to Kunduz, but there was no sign an attack was imminent.

Refugees fleeing Kunduz over the past several days have said the city is under the control of Arab, Pakistani, Chechen and other foreign fighters--and a hard core of Taliban fighters from Kandahar.

In and near Bangi, a village about 30 miles east of Kunduz, refugees gave chilling accounts of conditions inside the city.

The Taliban were barring people from leaving, telling them, "If you leave the USA will bomb all the city," said a refugee named Dar Zardad. He said he made it out of the city only after Taliban beat him with their rifle butts.

Zardad described the killing in Kunduz of a group of boys in their late teens by Taliban from Kandahar after some of the youths laughed at them. He and others also recounted how troops shot and killed a doctor when he delayed responding to their summons to come treat wounded Taliban fighters.

Refugees said people of the city were hiding indoors and closing their shops for fear of summary execution by the Taliban. Foreign fighters, using local translators, were broadcasting loudspeaker announcements saying they would be taking the offensive against northern alliance troops laying siege to the city.

The reports of bombings in eastern Nangarhar province and in Kandahar came from the Afghan Islamic Press. It said the Nangarhar raid killed 30 people, and quoted a Pakistani official at the nearby Torkham border crossing as saying seven wounded were brought to Pakistan for treatment.

It also said U.S. jets struck targets around Kandahar, killing 46 people, as the stalemate continued over control of the Taliban stronghold.

In the capital, Kabul, U.N. envoy Francesc Vendrell was trying to help work out a plan for a new Afghan government. The former president, Burhanuddin Rabbani, returned to Kabul on Saturday for the first time in five years.

Rabbani has never relinquished his claim to the presidency, though he has acknowledged the international calls for a broad-based government that would include all of Afghanistan's ethnic groups.

A White House official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Saturday that the United States has been pressuring the northern alliance to share power with other factions and to let the United Nations oversee assembly of a new government. U.S. officials are in the region and in direct contact with the alliance, he said.

Vendrell said he had a preliminary meeting with Rabbani's acting foreign minister, Abdullah, on Sunday. He described the exchange as "cordial" but said no outstanding issues were resolved.

Copyright 2001 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.


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1 posted on 11/18/2001 8:58:55 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Noone is going anywhere until Gearge Bush says so
2 posted on 11/18/2001 9:01:15 AM PST by Mixer
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To: Mixer
USA, just say no to conditions.
3 posted on 11/18/2001 9:03:43 AM PST by marvlus
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Take these bastards down. To leave them still standing, whether it be in Kabul or in the mountains, would be a big tatical mistake.
4 posted on 11/18/2001 9:04:19 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Let foreign supporters of bin-Laden go? Not as supporters we won't....kill them all.
5 posted on 11/18/2001 9:05:26 AM PST by piasa
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Let's see .... I think they tried conditional surrenders back at the beginning of this didn't they? The only condition we will accept is the deliverence of OBL and all terrorist leaders.
6 posted on 11/18/2001 9:06:04 AM PST by mercy
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
others said eight teen-age boys were killed for laughing at Taliban soldiers.

All the world is laughing at Taliban "soldiers." Mostly because they're such abject cowards, and because they shoot teenage boys. I don't know what it is about these jackasses that makes them so loathsome, but I don't think we've ever fought such an unworthy enemy.

7 posted on 11/18/2001 9:08:24 AM PST by IronJack
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The only acceptable condition should be a total laying down of arms, and bin laden's head on a stick, with his entrails dangling for the dogs. That goes for Omar and the rest of the evil pack.

God bless the true patriot.

rushtafarian

8 posted on 11/18/2001 9:09:17 AM PST by rushtafarian
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Witnesses also said at least 100 Taliban soldiers were shot, apparently by gunmen from their own side, as they approached northern alliance lines in an attempt to surrender.

The Taliban were barring people from leaving, telling them, "If you leave the USA will bomb all the city," said a refugee named Dar Zardad. He said he made it out of the city only after Taliban beat him with their rifle butts.

Sounds as if their falling apart GOOD.... a house divided omongst itself will surely fall

9 posted on 11/18/2001 9:09:42 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
"...an opposition commander said the Taliban had offered to give up provided there was a guarantee of safety for foreign fighters loyal to Osama bin Laden."

But these ARE the baddest of the bad guys.

10 posted on 11/18/2001 9:10:34 AM PST by spald
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To: Mixer
I love this picture - I doubt if the Taliban does!

AFGHANISTAN AFTER DARK

Hey - maybe they can get bin Laden to pop for some helmets instead of the turbans!

11 posted on 11/18/2001 9:10:36 AM PST by stlrocket
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12 posted on 11/18/2001 9:11:10 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: lowbridge
tatical= tactical
13 posted on 11/18/2001 9:12:40 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: mercy
Taliban soldiers could be seen running out on the distant ridges, trying to find cover.

you can run but you cannot hide. Where is their bravado, now?

I think the average fighter who was backing the Taliban did not understand our capabilities or our resolve. They didn't have television. Didn't really know the U.S or the military capabilities. They probably thought we were another Russia that would put in troops that they could kill. They didn't expect hell fire from the sky :-)

14 posted on 11/18/2001 9:13:12 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
To hell with them and their terms. The world will be a brighter cleaner place when they're dead.
15 posted on 11/18/2001 9:13:23 AM PST by LibKill
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Taliban soldiers could be seen running out on the distant ridges, trying to find cover.

I want pictures of these fierce warriors running.

16 posted on 11/18/2001 9:13:23 AM PST by barker
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Turn up BL and Omar and we may possibly consider accepting some form of surrender. Maybe.
17 posted on 11/18/2001 9:13:47 AM PST by aquawrench
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To: piasa
Then again, there must be some way of getting a lot of Al Qaeda intelligence out of these guys.
18 posted on 11/18/2001 9:14:54 AM PST by The Old Hoosier
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
The last time I heard Bush the object was to "bring justice to the evildoers" not to "pacify" them.
19 posted on 11/18/2001 9:15:52 AM PST by Amerigomag
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
The HOLEY MONTH of BOMB-adon. These Muslim terrorists are like cancer cells. No doctor spends any time worring about the "right to life of cancer cells" -- doctors kill cancer cells. Of course, "Islam is a Peaceful Region," right, whose members are boy-buggering, women-hating, religious bigots prone to wage war. Just classic bullies. More bombs -- don't waste time talking sense to cancer cells.
20 posted on 11/18/2001 9:23:21 AM PST by jrlc
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