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A couple of questions for all FR Webheads

Posted on 12/12/2001 6:59:04 AM PST by Loyalty_and_Courage

Hi all, just what to pick the brains of all you webmasters out there to see what are the newest trends in website development. Just some quick questions

1. What your language of choice for programming cgi interaction? What makes it your choice?

2. What are your favorite websites for resources on the language above?

3. What (if any) site management software do you use for your website?

4. Do you use a DMS for your site? If so what DMS do you use, and would you recommend its use to others?


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Thanks for the info!
1 posted on 12/12/2001 6:59:04 AM PST by Loyalty_and_Courage (rc_baker@hotmail.com)
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To: Loyalty_and_Courage
What is your billing address? ;)
2 posted on 12/12/2001 7:04:36 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: Loyalty_and_Courage
I use Notepad and sometimes perl :)
3 posted on 12/12/2001 7:08:35 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: Loyalty_and_Courage
BTW PERL is free, not hard to learn, and extremely powerful. If your using it on a windows system use the version from Activestate.
4 posted on 12/12/2001 7:13:21 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: Loyalty_and_Courage
I would definitely use ASP.NET and C# as your language. It is new, it is more powerful than anything else out there, and it separates the page logic from the presentation. For what it's worth...
5 posted on 12/12/2001 7:20:57 AM PST by wireplay
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To: Loyalty_and_Courage
Im an ASP and Javascript fan. http://cgi.resourceindex.com when i do run into CGI
6 posted on 12/12/2001 7:23:33 AM PST by smith288
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To: Loyalty_and_Courage
One other thing. I wouldn't use cgi. It is dated and doesn't scale well. If you do use cgi, perl is as good as it gets.
7 posted on 12/12/2001 7:24:03 AM PST by wireplay
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To: Loyalty_and_Courage
Whatever you do, do not use Windows to serve a web site! Stick with UNIX and perl. With Linux or BSD, you can recycle x86 hardware for a server. Unless you are handling 1,000,000 page views per day, an average 500Mhz Intel PC with Linux as the OS, Apache as the http daemon and using perl for cgi is just fine. It will cost you $0 compared to the $$$ you will be spending with Microsoft. UNIX is not so hard to master, Apple is even using it in their Mac OS X (based on BSD). The best part of Linux on the server and Perl is the millions of web sites out there with information to help you out -- free of charge.
8 posted on 12/12/2001 7:26:26 AM PST by toupsie
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To: Loyalty_and_Courage
For general purpose guides Web developers' virtual library
For technical specifications The World Wide Web Consortium
9 posted on 12/12/2001 7:36:06 AM PST by Spruce
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To: Spruce
Doh!
First time posting a hyper-link in this forum!

For general purpose guides Web developers' virtual library
For technical specifications The World Wide Web Consortium
10 posted on 12/12/2001 7:38:16 AM PST by Spruce
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To: Loyalty_and_Courage
My host for the past 6 months is NetCR.com and I'm very happy. The cost is very reasonable, and the uptime is phenomenal.

Disclaimer: I am only a satisfied customer.

11 posted on 12/12/2001 7:39:30 AM PST by newgeezer
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To: Loyalty_and_Courage
1. What your language of choice for programming cgi interaction? What makes it your choice?

Perl is interesting, but the syntax is too weird. I prefer PHP. It's a free download, and it's included with many Linux/Apache distributions. PHP is a popular choice for many web sites.

It's easy to learn, and it executes efficiently. It's sort of the best parts of several languages (C, Perl, etc.) The PHP scripts can be embedded right in the HTML, or contained in separate files.

It has several extensions for operating with databases (MySQL, Postgres, ODBC, Oracle, etc.), network sockets and protocol interfaces (like cURL to fetch web pages from other sites), gd (generates dynamic graphic content in PNG and JPEG format), Perl regular expressions, e-mail functions, forms handling, and the list goes on and on.

The documentation is excellent.

Here is a sample web page with a simple PHP script embedded to demostrate how it works:

<HTML>
<BODY>

<?php
   print("Hello World");
?>

</BODY>
</HTML>

When you access the page from your web browser, the server executes the PHP script and generates a page that says "Hello World".

12 posted on 12/12/2001 7:52:21 AM PST by HAL9000
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To: Loyalty_and_Courage
Just keep in mind with the free software that everyone seems to espouse (perl, php, apache, etc.): you get what you pay for. There are very cool things you can do under asp.net that are not easily done (or doable) under apache and perl. Plus visual.studios.net is drag-and-drop web forms. heck you can even use perl under visual.studios .net. for what it's worth...
13 posted on 12/12/2001 8:00:28 AM PST by wireplay
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To: HAL9000
Perl is interesting, but the syntax is too weird. I prefer PHP. It's a free download, and it's included with many Linux/Apache distributions. PHP is a popular choice for many web sites.

I agree wholeheartedly. PHP is quite robust, and can interact with several major database servers. Great documentation, its fast, and its free. Set it up on a Linux server and couple it with a MySQL database server and you've got a nice, robust server at no cost, other than the hardware. Perl is no match for PHP in the speed department.

I also use Cold Fusion in my current job. It's a bit slower, a lot more expensive, but very easy to learn, which of course makes it not nearly as powerful.

14 posted on 12/12/2001 8:02:27 AM PST by DaisyCutter
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To: wireplay
There are very cool things you can do under asp.net that are not easily done (or doable) under apache and perl.

Yeah, like putting more money in Bill Gate's wallet, or spreading NIMDA worms.

15 posted on 12/12/2001 8:13:23 AM PST by HAL9000
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To: Loyalty_and_Courage

Language: PHP.
Info: php.net
Site management: Ftp Voyager :)
DMS: myinternet.com. Recommend? Yes.

The FR Network site is written in PHP.


16 posted on 12/12/2001 8:16:30 AM PST by Nick Danger
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To: HAL9000
You know what: capitalism works. I don't begrudge MS its money because their products work and they work together. There are issues, granted, but MS products are far easier to work with than the unix variants. However, I see the place for linux and perl. Too bad that the open source cult cannot see any place for true commercial software.
17 posted on 12/12/2001 8:19:59 AM PST by wireplay
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To: wireplay
Yep, Microsoft produces the best virus delivery device money can buy. Spend all of your time downloading patches, not developing a web site.
18 posted on 12/12/2001 8:25:12 AM PST by AlKipple
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To: Loyalty_and_Courage
just checked dice.com to see 'in demand' skills. asp had over 900 jobs, php had 76. That gives you some idea if your goal is to move your career forward. You can do your own checking on the other technologies.
19 posted on 12/12/2001 8:26:37 AM PST by wireplay
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You know what: capitalism works.

One of my goals as a capitalist is to keep as much of the money as possible myself.

If I don't have to send it to Bill Gates, that's okay.

20 posted on 12/12/2001 8:33:21 AM PST by HAL9000
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