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  • Germanwings pilot was locked out of cockpit before crash in France

    03/26/2015 5:06:14 PM PDT · 359 of 372
    2sheep to Yardstick

    The authorities have taken down his Facebook account. Before they did some people got info from it containing Friends or Favorites including an “adult” homosexual site called Man Country or something like that and there were other friends who clearly were gay. Someone once said, “Gays are always covertly hostile.” There is nothing more hateful or hostile than flying 149 innocent people into a mountainside.

    The NWO protects Muslims and gays. I don’t suppose you will see anyone in the media say he was gay or that could be a cause of the crash and anyone who suggests that will be called hateful and homophobic.

    The co-pilot had taken time off for depression, a common side effect of being gay. He was 28 and lived with his parents.

  • Why All the Love for George Clooney?

    01/30/2015 10:14:49 PM PST · 55 of 55
    2sheep to woodbutcher1963

    >>>“Boy, it is hard to hate him. He really seems like a good guy.”

    He is an actor. He is acting.

    Not all women love him. Some can’t stand him. He’s been a fornicator all of his life.

  • Comparing cost of buying health care insurance

    10/17/2013 10:35:32 PM PDT · 3 of 7
    2sheep to ReaganÃœberAlles
  • Pit bull fatally mauls 5-year-old

    09/29/2013 8:54:30 PM PDT · 68 of 73
    2sheep to 9YearLurker

    A litter of 5 or 6 pit bull mixed puppies was turned into the local dog pound which immediately put down the whole litter. The response from animal rights and pit bull defenders wackos went all the way up to the Mayor’s office. He said in defense, “They are pit bulls!” Normal people understood.

    There are difficulties in banning the whole “breed” because it isn’t actually a breed according to dog associations like AKC, because there are many mixes that may be able to contend that they aren’t “pit bulls” so can skate away from any law and because if you start with one breed, what other breed of the 350 or so will be next. The Police say that druggies like to keep them to defend their drugs or warn them of anyone approaching.

    I agree with others on this thread that the whole Terrier group is bred to hunt down and kill. Even a bite from a small Jack Russell Terrier can be bad for a child. Even Chihuahuas can be nasty. It is better to pick a dog for a child by size and temperament than by breed. Even then a pup needs training.

    In another case on a video from Florida news after a kid was bitten by a large dog, a Rottweiler breeder said “No one should ever leave any big dog in a room alone with children for any reason!”

  • Ruth Christine faces deportation

    09/14/2013 5:23:34 AM PDT · 10 of 10
    2sheep to RGSpincich

    Some of us Christine supporters have been praying for over 10 years for the Christines that their faith hold under this persecution although we rarely visit here any more. “None of the wicked shall understand.” Dan 12:10.

  • Windows: It’s over, tech site declares

    04/16/2013 2:29:55 PM PDT · 78 of 203
    2sheep to davisfh

    That is fine if you stay off the internet unless you are running very sophisticated anti-virus and anti-malware software. Microsoft doesn’t support that OS. Your first line of defense is Windows Updates and you will get none for that. They are soon to not support XP. You have to be upstream from that.

  • Need Help Moving My Pastor Away From Social Justice Leanings

    09/06/2012 4:01:53 PM PDT · 28 of 50
    2sheep to CincyRichieRich; TEXOKIE

    CFP: ‘Agenda 21’ and Why is the GOP Now Opposed to It? - Social justice” means the abolition of private property.

    Kathleen Marquardt — Agenda 21, the end of Western Civilization - Part 1 (click Archive for the other parts)

    Agenda 21 - What Is It? Apparently it is a plan to reduce the population

    Homeland Security Prepares for Civil War

    The government purchase of 1.4 billion hollow points can’t be ignored.

  • Sen. Frist aids victims at South Florida wreck scene

    01/01/2003 7:46:22 PM PST · 74 of 344
    2sheep to LO_IQ
    >Do you believe in redemption? Changing our sinful ways? Forgiveness after not committing such sin for 28 years?

    Yes.  However, Frist has graduated from murdering cats to promoting the murder of innocent babies.  THAT IS CURRENT FRUIT! 

    HE HAS NOT REPENTED!  Confession does not equal repentance!  The bible says "turn from sin," "cease for sinning," and so on.  There is no forgiveness for the unrepentant who do not turn from sin.  There is no repentance for those who keep sinning and abortion and promoting it is sin.

  • Sen. Frist aids victims at South Florida wreck scene

    01/01/2003 6:40:43 PM PST · 27 of 344
    2sheep to Senator Pardek
    >"As a doctor his first instinct was too help these individuals,"

    And as a doctor his second instinct is that if anything goes wrong, even if it is not his fault he could be the deep pocket who gets sued.

    As a politician, he can set aside the above concerns and think about how this will take the heat off the "cat controversy."  You are correct.

  • Invaders on the loose (Michelle Malkin)

    01/01/2003 6:33:36 PM PST · 34 of 43
    2sheep to DBtoo; Uncle Bill
    It is not winning or losing, it is just setting one dance out.  Nothing changes for the good because precept by precept, a tango or a hoedown, Left, Right, step by step across the dance floor it is all aimed at one globalist agenda.  Left/Right, thesis/anti-thesis, the propaganda method of the Hegelian Dialectic keeps the "voters" guessing and always in the dark.  See  122

    "The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one perhaps of the Right, and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.... [E]ither party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired, unenterprising, and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same

    Professor Carroll Quigley
    [1]Tragedy and Hope - The History of the World in Our Time
    (New York : Macmillan, 1966)
    pages 1247-1248

    Vote Republican, Vote Democrat, socialism at it's best. They can make compassionate conservatism for the children blossom into tyrannical totalitarianism with hugs and kisses, and be home in time for dinner, with the raping of taxpayers far from their mind.

     196  posted on 12/21/2002 3:20 AM PST by Uncle Bill

  • RUBBISH! Portland's top brass said it was OK to swipe your garbage--so we grabbed theirs.

    01/01/2003 8:41:08 AM PST · 23 of 59
    2sheep to Jerry Attrick
    Interesting. Can you identify Vera Katz' priorities and most hated people as you have done for WW?
  • Invaders on the loose (Michelle Malkin)

    01/01/2003 7:07:52 AM PST · 18 of 43
    2sheep to happygrl; Thinkin' Gal; babylonian; madfly; DBtoo
    >He'll be as stunned to be a one-termer as his daddy was.

    If things keep on as they are now, there will never be another election.

  • Year of the bear

    01/01/2003 3:56:10 AM PST · 2 of 2
    2sheep to sarcasm; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; babylonian
    Russia and Iran are also known as the bear. Hopefully, 2003 will not be a trifecta.
  • Frist asked to atone for killing cats

    12/31/2002 10:42:33 PM PST · 145 of 482
    2sheep to Dallas; Thinkin' Gal; Avoiding_Sulla; Prodigal Daughter; babylonian
    Men who hate cats are misogynists, working themselves to bigger things.  Some are minanthropes.  I remember reading that Jeffrey Dalmer started with cats and road kill.
  • With Missionaries Spreading, Muslims' Anger Is Following (NYT sees missionaries deserving of death)

    12/31/2002 9:43:44 PM PST · 83 of 104
    2sheep to MissAmericanPie
    Happy New Year to you, too! Take care.
  • The People I Live Amongst [ "Israel's Landscape of Heros" ]

    12/31/2002 9:42:51 PM PST · 17 of 23
    2sheep to Nix 2; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; DBtoo; babylonian
    >Where do we go from here? Only you can decide what you will do. We won't find another Meir Kahane.

    May G-d avenge his murder and raise up 144,000 Kahanes in his place!

  • With Missionaries Spreading, Muslims' Anger Is Following (NYT sees missionaries deserving of death)

    12/31/2002 9:11:08 PM PST · 77 of 104
    2sheep to Marysecretary; MissAmericanPie; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; DBtoo; babylonian; shaggy eel; ...
    >Each person has to find Christ for him or herself. Many churches don't tell their congregations about salvation.

    Many churches do not tell their congregations about the necessity for obedience and holiness, which is our reasonable service.

    Heb 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

    Ro 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

    >They're religious but don't know anything about relationship and that's what Christ is all about--relationship. He hated the religion of his day because it put people in bondage and it still does in some churches. God wants to set us free to love and worship Him and Him alone.

    No.  He hated the HYPOCRISY of his day, just like He hates HYPOCRISY today in Christianity.  Yeshua said in Joh 15:14, Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. There is no relationship outside of obedience and for those who only have a "form of godliness" and deny His power.  Yeshua was a Jewish Rabbi and didn't come to destroy the law, but rather fulfill it.  He didn't come to discard Judaism at all and make a religion full of pagan feasts and practices.  See, Sun Worship in Church Vocabulary  and  Would Your Church Allow You To Be Like Jesus?

    Mt 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

    Links to chase...

    Who should convert, Jews or Christians?   143 and related links.

    Saved by Grace?  Who is the author of anomianism?   30 and related links.

  • Tsunami Strikes Italy

    12/31/2002 7:17:58 PM PST · 20 of 42
    2sheep to Thinkin' Gal
    Silly me, I thought it would be Latin or Italian.
  • Forested Area of Scotland Returned to Bog

    12/31/2002 7:16:38 PM PST · 48 of 57
    2sheep to Avoiding_Sulla; Stavka2; Thinkin' Gal; babylonian; Prodigal Daughter
    >The depth of the double-think on this, and the unthinking (in many cases) bigotry underlying it, is a very real obstacle. It will require a major battle of words to reawaken personal morality so you can drive the home how intrinsically evil you know the thinking to be there.

    Indeed, the lack of personal morality and love for one's neighbor is sin, and that is the root of the problem.  (Note to Stavka2, hog feces in the drinking water is a judgment of G-d for sin just as those hundreds of bodies laying unburied at the crematory in Florida or wherever it was.  That is a fairly dramatic attention grabber.  "Attention: this is your G~d.  Anybody listening?  Anybody remember my instructions, my commandments to love your neighbor as yourself???")

    >I believe PC thought suppression has done incredible damage here.


    >Making it PC to equate all cultures, ***[an absurdity]*** and verbotten to demonstrate how JudeoChristian western thought overcame its own shortcomings[?]*** to the betterment and prosperity of all humanity, was a trick that screams out for despoiling.

    What shortcomings?

    Ps 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

    Yeshua and his disciples confirmed this.

    Mt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    Ro 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

    Rather than being intrinsically good, the natural man desires rebellion, sin and wickedness rather than the truth, love, honor and peace which surround people who love and obey the One true G-d of Israel and keep His commandments.  Any shortcomings have always been the fault of mankind, not of G-d.

    It is not only the unchurched who hate their neighbors (e.g. raise so many hogs the ground water gets polluted) but the churched apostate Christians who are no more than secular humanists and think they can do anything they like.

    That is the problem, Stavka2, sin, and government won't solve the sin problem.  In fact, looking to any government for a solution to a such is idolatry!  For any nominally Christian nation to be brought back now would require widescale repentance and this is not happening, in the U.K. (where there are something like 900+ churches that have been converted to mosques) nor in the U.S. nor anywhere else as far as I can see.

    History will now repeat.  G~d will bring increasingly harsh judgments to the western nations.

    The Bible says they will give heed to seducing spirits...will not endure sound doctrine...and because they love not THE TRUTH, will be given over to believe a lie.  DO YOU BELIEVE THAT?

    1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, **giving heed to seducing spirits,** and doctrines of devils;.

    2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when **they will not endure sound doctrine;** but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

    2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; **because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.** 11 And for **this cause** God shall send them **strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:** 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    We are witnessing that now.  Nearly the whole nation is given over **by God** to believe one lie or another...whether government is good or Bush is good or Homeland Security is good or that Muslims are good and Jews/Christians are bad or whatever.  Truth is not *mental* is *spiritual* -- Jesus said so..."The words I speak are *spirit* and they are life."  He was the "word made flesh" and dwelt among us and "his own knew him not."  Now, most who say they are Christians "know him not" and are like those in the days of Noah who knew not until the flood came and took them away.

    Mt 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 ***And knew not** until the flood came, and **took them all away;** so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

  • Tsunami Strikes Italy

    12/31/2002 7:05:23 PM PST · 17 of 42
    2sheep to Kevin Curry
    You might be pretty close. One "bol" word, bollix means : To throw into confusion; botch or bungle: managed to bollix up the whole project.[Alteration of ballocks, testicles, from Middle English balloks, from Old English beallucas.]
  • Tsunami Strikes Italy

    12/31/2002 6:44:04 PM PST · 15 of 42
    2sheep to Thinkin' Gal; tubebender
    "strom" may be mattress, covering, but what is "boli?"
  • Yemini Kills American Christians "for Allah"

    12/31/2002 2:49:11 PM PST · 17 of 20
    2sheep to Free ThinkerNY; Thinkin' Gal; babylonian; Yehuda; Nix 2
    >Abed Abdul-Razzaq al-Kamil, 32, shot the four representatives of Southern Baptist International Mission Board to "cleanse his religion and get closer to Allah,"

    Like suicide bombers, he has assuredly reserved himself a place in Hell next to Allah where they can be close for eternity.

  • Has Islamism hit its high-water mark?

    12/31/2002 11:34:58 AM PST · 13 of 18
    2sheep to knighthawk; rovenstinez; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; babylonian; DBtoo
    >Has Islamism hit its high-water mark?

    No, the gates of Hell have been opened, the waster is about to destroy and judgment is nigh.  Pray hard, repent harder.

    Dream of the Capturing of Many Women - 1997

    Red Alert! - 9 Aug 02 - Billy Blankenship

    more here - scroll down and to the right

  • Forested Area of Scotland Returned to Bog

    12/31/2002 11:14:04 AM PST · 46 of 57
    2sheep to Stavka2; dtel
    >He's managed to equate land preservation with abortion and UN world government.

    Globalism kills and not just by encouraging abortion.  Read the links!

  • Forested Area of Scotland Returned to Bog

    12/31/2002 11:05:24 AM PST · 45 of 57
    2sheep to Stavka2; madfly; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; Uncle Bill
    >Government's job is not to control the economy/market it is to regulate it to keep one side from abusing the other and an even playing field.

    >Just out of morbid curiosity: what do you think of state/federal parks, should be clear cut them and make a profit...after all, what purpose do they serve, just sitting around like that, right?.

    When governments are evil, like they are now, it is no longer "by the people, for the people," but "by the elite, for the elite" and you should not be calling for more government control.  The elite robber barons and oligarchs steal the peoples' money and even the national parks are traded to World interests as collateral for federal debts.  Land grabs to create more national parks are for the purpose of stealing more land to trade to anti-American interests and to fulfill the UN's Agenda 21 re population control.  There is no longer any heritage nor inheritance for your children.  You've been had in a big way.  The middle class protesting en masse in South America is a harbinger of things to come in North America.  Some authors indicate that the downturn in real estate in America will become a freefall and people will be walking away from their homes because they owe more than the homes are worth and there is no money to pay for them.  Weep.

  • Forested Area of Scotland Returned to Bog

    12/31/2002 2:54:19 AM PST · 32 of 57
    2sheep to Stavka2; Avoiding_Sulla
    >You see, there are a lot of unsupervized hog farms owned by various strong lobbiests.

    More government control is NOT the answer.  More government control and love of the nanny state got you Homeland Security.  If you're happy and you know it, clank your chains.  The NWO agenda favors rich anglophiles who break all the rules to make themselves richer and at the same time bespoil the earth.  Gaii worship is Luciferian occultism and it means to kill people in massive numbers.

     Gaia: The re-ordering of the world - Part 1
     Sustainable development explained: Joan Veon explains evolution of U.N. global control push - Part 2
     Churches deceived by green extremists: Henry Lamb describes world religion called 'Gaia'
     Sustainable development explained: Joan Veon explains evolution of U.N. global control push
     'Overpopulation' Turns Out to Be Overhyped
     Beyond Birth Control: Dr. Stanley K. Monteith ~The Population Control Agenda
     The Georgia Guidestones: New Age Reason, or Age Old Treason?
     22  - quote on World Health Org and AIDS in Africa
     Tetrahedron: U.N._World_Food_and_Population.html
     POPULATION CONTROL, THE FINAL SOLUTION (2 of 3) - See post #8 by Romulus re Julian Simon
     Global Governance: Excessive Population
     Peter Singer and Eugenics
     The Re-education of America
     Population Control and Eugenics: the Dark Underworld of Modernity
     Are you being targeted for Euthanasia?

  • With Missionaries Spreading, Muslims' Anger Is Following (NYT sees missionaries deserving of death)

    12/31/2002 2:39:09 AM PST · 11 of 104
    2sheep to I_Love_My_Husband; Yehuda; SJackson; Thinkin' Gal
    >The Slimes thinks that building hospitals, giving out food, toys and (shock horror!) Christian literature is deserving of death by fanatic Muslims.

    Jews give hospital and other care to Muslims in Israel and don't evangelize at all and they are a target of murdering Muslims just *for existing.* It is not what you do that gets you hated, it is the people of the devil (Muslims) that hate the people of G-d (Jews/Christians).

  • Forested Area of Scotland Returned to Bog

    12/31/2002 2:23:07 AM PST · 29 of 57
    2sheep to Tailgunner Joe; Avoiding_Sulla
    >Conservationists are now working to turn back the clock.

    Turning back the clock to the Dark Ages.  Conservationists of this ilk are one more cog in the wheel of the culture of death and forced population control.  Likely they will want malaria in the swamps and to station poor people nearby in honor of Thomas Robert Mathus (1766-1834).  Mother Earth and Gaii worship are satanic and an intermediate step to population control.

  • Big one

    12/30/2002 3:03:34 PM PST · 133 of 218
    2sheep to Mossad1967; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; Jeremiah Jr; Fred Mertz; shaggy eel; TrueBeliever9; ...
    >New Years Eve

    Someone had this vision:

    "On CHRISTmas Day I 'saw' suicide bombers go into the crowd in New York Times Square December 31 - midnight - the ball drops ----- BOOM! The world will see it .. it will be 'SPECTACULAR' ..."  Source
    Less obvious than a Muslim carrying a suitcase nuke would be Muslims carrying disease of some form (plague, anthax, smallpox, etc.) at a communicable stage and intentionally mingling with the crowd, i.e. suicide "bombers" carrying disease.  Something to think about.
  • White House Wimp-Out?

    12/30/2002 3:46:30 AM PST · 14 of 69
    2sheep to Uncle Bill; Prodigal Daughter; babylonian; Thinkin' Gal; Fred Mertz
    I got as far as line two and "gut his tax-cutting plan" and thought, "Uncle Bill will want to see this."  Then I see that you are already here in the frontlines.  Good man!
  • 'Post' exclusive: The revised road map

    12/29/2002 11:09:13 PM PST · 5 of 10
    2sheep to Yehuda; Nix 2; Thinkin' Gal; dennisw; SJackson
    This roadmap is a blueprint for disaster for Israel. Who does Israel serve, G-d or the Quartet? May G-d raise up some Kahanes!
  • Bush snubs Prince Charles

    12/29/2002 7:58:40 PM PST · 38 of 90
    2sheep to ejdrapes; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; babylonian; shaggy eel; Crazymonarch; DBtoo; Zad; ...
    This appears to be a family fight.  Bush is related to the royal family.  Yesterday we saw the Queen orders Prince Charles to stop hunting.  Today we see the Prince Charles doesn't want Bush to hunt.  If any of them followed the many dreams and visions of missiles falling on the U.S.* and London in a sneak attack, they might stop their fighting and look at who is hunting them.  Points are deducted and wars are lost for not paying attention.
    *Click here, scroll down to the right
  • Born of a virgin: Hal Lindsey explains why the details of Jesus' birth are important

    12/29/2002 2:46:29 PM PST · 23 of 28
    2sheep to Simcha7; Codie; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; DBtoo; babylonian; Crazymonarch
    Click here for this important link which explains the Babylonian roots of the "Mother of God" false doctrine.  It is important read.  This is also Diana of the Ephesians referenced in Acts 19:23-41.  Excerpt here:
    " Rhea, Cybele, Diana, and the pagan goddesses who were counterparts of Semiramis. She stands as a universal symbol of "liberty," apart from the laws and commandments of God. She represents the "emancipation" of mankind, and "immigration" and "unity" and the coming together of many races to become one universal mankind, all peoples coming together to one land, uniting the nations as "one," with one language.

    This is exactly what ancient Nimrod and Semiramis tried to do at the original "Tower of Babel," but God Almighty defeated their attempt by scattering the nations and confounding their languages (Gen.11:1-9).

  • The Public And The Elite Are At Odds On Immigration.

    12/29/2002 1:51:14 PM PST · 44 of 66
    2sheep to DWar; madfly; Uncle Bill
    >A large new study reveals 60% of the American public view the present immigration situation as a “critical threat to the vital interests of the United States”. At the same time only 14% of our national leadership and opinion makers hold the same views. This reflects a huge disagreement between the people of America and the political elite.

    Constitution:  by the People, for the People

    New World Order socialism:  by the Elite, for the Elite...just say "its for the People."

  • Burned trees' loss transcends the economic: Apaches' bitter harvest

    12/29/2002 1:45:06 PM PST · 9 of 23
    2sheep to madfly
    What a tragedy. Globalism's Gaii agenda kills.
  • The Rise Of Tikkun Olam Paganism

    12/28/2002 5:32:29 PM PST · 24 of 77
    2sheep to ex-Texan
    >What is you personal feeling about 'Havdala' type prayers? Is it permissible to pray to win the lottery, based on a promise to feed and clothe the poor?

    We don't gamble and each man should examine himself.  The Havadalah prayers Here do not appear to be begging for money so I'm not sure what the author above means.  Deut. 28 blessings or cursings were for obedience and affect every area of life for good or bad depending on actions.  Jews have been blessed materially throughout the ages, but often the response of the world was hatred towards them, so blessings do come with persecution for the people of G-d.

    Yeshua said to love G-d or Mammon (this world's system) and no man can serve two masters.  The heart condition towards wealth needs to be taken into consideration and what one does with wealth when he has it.  The Israeli response to the Palestinians in treating their wounded, providing for them is higher in love and generosity than the general attitude of Christians towards the Palies.

    Matthew Henry wrote in the 1700's that the scripture showed the Jews were blessed in the O.T. but that he didn't see in scripture how Christians would be in the N.T.  (There are false prophets preaching the "prosperity gospel" today who would inform Matthew Henry how wrong he is...but I digress.)  If Christians are not blessed today, I suspect that it is because most of Christianity today is apostate and has believed another gospel, particuarly in being anomian..."without law."  Yeshua came to fulfill and explain the Law, not destroy it.  The false prophets came and preached the law is gone.  It is not.  The N.T. promise is:

    Mr 10:28-30 Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee.  And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's, But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

  • The Rise Of Tikkun Olam Paganism

    12/28/2002 4:39:01 PM PST · 18 of 77
    2sheep to Nix 2
    >To: Elisha_Ben_Abuya

    >Ho Ho Ho!!! Merry internet-target practice. Or are you going to use your kid as a shield lest a scratch befall your unworthy self?

    That seems to be an established Muslim practice.


    12/28/2002 4:29:25 PM PST · 8 of 21
    2sheep to Thinkin' Gal
    2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

  • Born of a virgin: Hal Lindsey explains why the details of Jesus' birth are important

    12/28/2002 4:27:27 PM PST · 19 of 28
    "then" should be "than"
  • Born of a virgin: Hal Lindsey explains why the details of Jesus' birth are important

    12/28/2002 4:25:40 PM PST · 18 of 28
    2sheep to Codie
    >What are the thoughts of Luther and Calvin on this subject?

    Who cares!  It is better to obey G-D then man and Yeshua hates the doctrine of the Nicolaitans and teachers who prove themselves false by their fruit.

  • The Rise Of Tikkun Olam Paganism

    12/28/2002 4:15:38 PM PST · 15 of 77
    2sheep to Nix 2; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; babylonian; Fred Mertz; American in Israel; Crazymonarch; ..
    >Tikkun Olam Pagans are people who misrepresent Judaism as nothing more and nothing less than the pursuit of the liberal social action political agenda, all in the name of a suitably misrepresented Tikkun Olam.

    Thanks for posting this.  I was unaware of it.  It is in some ways akin to the deception being foisted on the Christian church: demonically led church growth gurus to win "people groups", (countries, cultures, cities and  communities, etc.) into a socialistic system of christianized collectivism known as "dominion theology" using the tactics and manipulation of the Hegelian Dialectic or "consensus process".
    More here 308 ~ 296 and here:  Paul Proctor - archives

    The enemy never gives up.  Unfortunately, too many people believe the lies instead of their Bibles/Torah.

  • Born of a virgin: Hal Lindsey explains why the details of Jesus' birth are important

    12/28/2002 2:22:01 PM PST · 12 of 28
    2sheep to Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter
    Who is this Babylon you keep talking about? - excerpt:
    ANSWER:  First, we must realize that Babylon (Bavel in Hebrew, meaning "confusion") is ALL about power.  It has to do with religious, economic, and political power and control.  To find the modern day Babel we must first find the first Babel in the Scriptures.

    In Genesis 10:8-10 and chapter 11 we find this city was built by Nimrod (a type of satan), and it was the source of the first great apostasy against Yahweh.  Here the "Babylonian mystery cult" was started by Nimrod.  The objects of worship were the "Supreme Father," the "Incarnate Female," or the Queen of heaven, and her Son.  A trinity of g-ds!  They built a tower to reach heaven, and wage war on Yahweh.  The purpose was to rule the world by these doctrines of demons.  After the destruction of the tower, these false doctrines were carried all over the world and infiltrated EVERY MAN-MADE RELIGION!

    This mother/child cult spread to the Roman Empire, and in the third century became part of the "Chr-stian?" faith.  ALL the rites of the original Babylonian cult began to come to the front, and paganism ruled the Messianic faith.  It was no longer***a completely different religion,*** with no connection to its roots.  It ALL revolved around sun worship, and the mother/child worship. ... ***
     The Two Babylons: The Mother and Child, and the Original of the Child

     Blue Honey - Sun Worship Gallery - lots of images here.  This is a shaman site laughing at deceived Christians who know not what they worship.

     Google Search: mother child "sun worship"

  • Born of a virgin: Hal Lindsey explains why the details of Jesus' birth are important

    12/28/2002 1:47:30 PM PST · 10 of 28
    2sheep to Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; DouglasKC; ALS; Eagle Eye; Simcha7; babylonian; shaggy eel; ...
    >Heb 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

    Rightly stated.  The big "IF" appears again and the famine of understanding* (shema) the word of the Lord has made Christendom a desert and a wilderness in which most fall away.

    Am 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing* (shema) the words of the LORD.

    Words and Images mean things even if people foolishly seek to change their meanings.  That is why G-d made commandments about them and talked about them so much.

    Sun Worship in Church Vocabulary

    Too Long in the Sun: Images -- excerpt:

    The Egyptians dedicated many obelisks to Ra, the god of the sun. The obelisk shape has been defined as that of a phallic symbol, or a ray of the sun extending to heaven. Today obelisks, or steeples adorn many buildings which have been labeled as churches. Does this honor our Creator?  ...

    Another "image" that has supposedly been "Christianized" is that of the "mother and child".  We have shown that the worship of the mother and her child, the re-incarnated sun god, has been one of the main components of sun worship since ancient times. The child represented the reborn sun god, proclaimed to be husband of the mother. That enabled her to claim the title "mother of god" - "queen of heaven".

    Please notice the "nimbus" surrounding the heads in many depictions of the "mother and child." This "nimbus’ or radiant light, in the form of a circle or halo, originated in sun worship. The nimbus was used to indicate the radiance of the sun gods or goddesses.

    There were no such depictions of the Biblical Mary and Christ by early believers. Later, however, as paganism began to corrupt the worship of God these representations began to be accepted by those calling themselves Christians. Mary was given the title "Theotokos - Mother of God" and these icons began to be placed on the eastern wall of churches, toward the rising sun, where they had always been in the pagan temples.

    The only honest conclusion that can be drawn is that there is no Biblical, archaeological or historical evidence that any of the before mentioned "images" were used by first century believers. Where did these symbols originate?

    We will again quote the "church" historian Tertullian - He sums it up nicely from a human standpoint: "If, for these and other such rules, you insist upon having positive Scripture injunction, you will find none. Tradition will be held forth to you as the originator of them, custom as their strengthener, and faith as their observer."

    Jesus sums it up perfectly: "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."

     Christmas Before Christ? The Surprising Story
  • RUSSIA: Nuclear Submarine Fleet Rebuilt

    12/27/2002 11:57:31 PM PST · 51 of 108
    2sheep to Destro
  • Christmas Before Christ? The Surprising Story

    12/27/2002 10:53:16 PM PST · 308 of 314
    2sheep to MWS; DouglasKC; Eagle Eye; ALS; Crazymonarch; Prodigal Daughter
    >>"Evangelization" is a buzz word used by the globalist change agents in the seeker-sensitive apostate churches.

    >On the contrary, evangelization is a real word with a real meaning that is at the very basis of what it means to be Christian.

    Here are clips of three articles on "Evangelization" --

    By: Paul Proctor

    On September 2nd (2001) the New York Times reported the following:  "Aaron Sorkin, the executive producer of "The West Wing" on NBC, says he hopes to break a longstanding network taboo this coming television season: he wants a character to curse in a way that uses the Lord's name in vain."

    As Cable Applies Pressure, Network TV Spouts Expletives 

    Agape Press began their report on the shocking announcement with, "Parents Beware!" while various conservative commentators busied themselves rallying the troops to make their voices heard by television executives. It seems that writers for the big three networks have been commissioned by producers to begin including in their scripts for the new fall lineup all sorts of language that Christians will obviously find offensive, the worst of which is of course "using the Lord's name in vain".

    Yes, it is sad to watch our culture morally plummeting before our eyes, not by default mind you, but by design. If nothing else this story should put and end to any additional argument or speculation as to the liberal agenda. There is no slippery slope involved here, my friends. This is clearly a swan dive into the filthy abyss. Only a fool would deny that the primary goal and purpose here is outright rebellion against God.

    However, before we start sending our flaming letters of "righteous indignation" to secular society for "using the Lord's name in vain", perhaps we should get our own house in order first. So what's wrong with the language of the church today? Are we too, guilty of breaking the third commandment?

    You see, not only does the "GD" word qualify as "using the Lord's name in vain", so does invoking the name of Christ to carry out occult agendas like "evangelization", (church-growth via ecumenism) which for the record, is not "The Great Commission". Whatever you do, don't confuse "evangelization" with evangelism. Evangelization was designed and implemented by demonically led church growth gurus to win "people groups", (countries, cultures, cities and communities, etc.) into a socialistic system of christianized collectivism known as "dominion theology" using the tactics and manipulation of the Hegelian Dialectic or "consensus process". The "church growth movement", made popular by Willow Creek Community Church and Saddleback Community Church is the product of Fuller Theological Seminary. Evangelism, on the other hand, is the Christian's call to simply "preach the gospel to every living creature" that they may respond personally and individually to Jesus Christ in repentance and faith under the guidance, direction, power and conviction of the Holy Spirit. Evangelization and evangelism are two entirely different things. Confusing the two has subsequently led many well-meaning Christians and missionaries into working for the enemy "in the name of Christ".

    Far more shocking and outrageous to me than the indecent language of unregenerate Hollywood actors is the number of beguiled believers being recruited by their own local church into various "movements", "networks", "conferences", "missions teams" and "visioning sessions" where attendees are piously instructed to leave their doctrinal differences at the door "for the cause of Christ". Well, DON'T YOU DO IT! The cause of Christ is not achieved by sacrificing truth. Today's wolves and blind guides may be winning the world "in Jesus' name", but they are certainly not winning it for Him.

    "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." (Matthew 7:21-23)

    Did the Lord tell Noah to build an ark big enough, fancy enough and entertaining enough for everyone to enter and enjoy? Did the Lord send Moses back to Egypt to transform it into a Jewish nation? Did Joshua have Israel gather around Jericho to promote "tolerance, diversity and unity" in the name of the Lord? We seem to have again forgotten here that Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world". He came to save you and me FROM THE WORLD not TO THE WORLD or WITH THE WORLD! Unfortunately, the gospel is being re-invented in much the same way socialist/liberals re-invented government; by attracting large crowds of jaded consumers with celebrities, entertainment, drama and a touchy-feely, group-centered theology all designed to condition them into a dependency, not on Christ, but on the collectivist communes of a global religion. With an unbiblical emphasis on human relationships guided by the artificial wisdom of "Christian psychology" (oxymoron), "evangelization" is successfully seducing mainstream Christianity into an apostasy that is nothing but Christian-flavored socialism.

    In career advancing cooperation, today's pseudo shepherds of feelings and finance market this narcissistic gospel to manipulate the flock into unequally yoking themselves to the world's goats in preparation for that charming miracle worker who will soon come and deceive many with "signs and lying wonders". In their blindness, the deceived will be led through the peer pressure of "mentoring" down a primrose path Jesus called "the broad way" by a delusion of illusion that will stir their emotions, stimulate their flesh and steer them away from eternal life in Christ.

    Now don't get me wrong. Christians should BY ALL MEANS protest the filth and godlessness we see on TV, not just for the good of our children, but for the good of society as a whole. We are to be the "salt of the Earth". No, I don't like hearing my Lord's name used in an unholy way either. But all the outrage in the world isn't going bring the lost to Christ in a house of heresy. What glory is it to God if we lead men and women into the freedom of faith in Christ only to have them led back into the bondage of group-think, idol worship and U.N. pantheism by demonically powered cults like Promise Keepers, Willow Creek and Women of Faith? No, the postmodern church is going to have to do ITS repenting FIRST if they expect anyone else to follow by example.

    "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." (Matthew 7:5)


     DIAPRAX GOES TO Seminary ~ by Paul Proctor -- excerpt:

    Commenting on:  
    'Interactive team-building seminar' called cutting-edge way of learning 

    For those unacquainted with the term 'Diaprax', it is simply another word for the Hegelian Dialectic or consensus process -- a deceitful procedure designed to bring about change through conflict and compromise that was conceived in the late 1700's by transformational Marxist, Georg Wilhelm Fredric Hegel who sought, as occult-led globalists do to this day, ‘unity in diversity' – a term many of us became familiar with under the Clinton Administration. Diaprax, a word coined by author and teacher Dean Gotcher, essentially brings together people of diverse and often opposing backgrounds, worldviews and belief systems in hopes they will forfeit their own values, traditions and absolutes for the emotional rewards of group acceptance.
    Do yourself a favor and read the Baptist Press article above. What you'll see is the dialectic language of a brave new world that lures its targets with words like, 'interactive', 'image-rich', 'cutting edge', 'futurist', 'new learning strategy', 'rewired', 'leadership', 'team-building', 'transition', 'audience', 'participative', 'entrepreneurial', 'next millennium', 'whatever it takes', 'dialog', 'evaluate', 'programming', 'new paradigm', 'image-based', 'carving ministries', 'casting ministries', 'experiential momentum', 'passion-driven', 'purpose-driven', 'success', 'non-relevant lectures', 'post-modern', 'concepts', 'solidifying', 'invest', 'money', 'resources', 'conversational', 'intentionally relational', 'share experiences', and 'connecting'.

    Words you WON’T see in the article are God, Jesus Christ, cross, sin, rebellion, repentance, confession, forgiveness, grace, mercy, wisdom, love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance, the Holy Spirit, edification, sanctification, glorification or even salvation. Why? -- Because this 'model of things to come for teaching in our churches'  is not about the Gospel of Christ. It is about avoiding it at all costs.

    "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." – 2nd Timothy 4:3-4

    >>> Paul Proctor - archives <<<

    Evangelization no longer seeks to bring people to a saving knowledge of Christ in repentance, but rather to "insert" a "Christian presence" in geographical regions, adapting the gospel to regional cultures by telling them that God "loves" them and has a plan for them, rather than proclaiming the "one and ONLY salvation through Jesus Christ" and renouncing of the world. 
  • King [Abdullah] meets Christian leaders, works to clarify relations to West

    12/27/2002 6:09:57 PM PST · 4 of 7
    2sheep to Thinkin' Gal
    Mt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    Lu 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

    Joh 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.  5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

  • Christmas Before Christ? The Surprising Story

    12/27/2002 3:11:16 PM PST · 304 of 314
    2sheep to MWS; DouglasKC; ALS; Eagle Eye; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal
    >You still have yet to substantiate your claims that Christianity and Christmas was syncretized in a manner that does not rely on post hoc fallacies.  I am not going to bother with this thread until this is done, as I have much more important things to turn my attention to than the claims of a pharisee.  (And yes, I still say these things in love out of a concern for your soul, because I see that you have strayed into several grave errors.)

    That is the old "prove it to me" demonic argument for those who refuse sound doctrine.  It is useless arguing with the blind who follow Nicolaitan overlords into the ditch.  If you don't prefer Truth to Tradition, then you have chosen your way.  Party hard.  Time is short.

    Mt 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

    Re 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

    The noise of your party is so loud you have become deaf.


    At least you were warned.

    S.O.L. 8/23/01
  • Christmas Before Christ? The Surprising Story

    12/27/2002 2:59:49 PM PST · 303 of 314
    2sheep to Sir Francis Dashwood
    >It's called begging the question, an informal fallacy. Right on the money.

    So the Satanist supports and agrees with the Apostate.  What a team you make!  How right of the Lord to include the Lukewarm with the Cold.

  • Christmas Before Christ? The Surprising Story

  • Christmas Before Christ? The Surprising Story

    12/26/2002 8:49:59 PM PST · 296 of 314
    2sheep to MWS; DouglasKC; Eagle Eye; ALS; Zad; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; Crazymonarch; babylonian
    >You are assuming what you are trying to prove. Christmas did not become a Christian holiday because Christianity was infiltrated by wiccans, pagans, and atheists. In this case it was not society that infiltrated Christianity but rather Christianity that infiltrated society.

    G~d hates mixture!  He calls people to come out and be holy, not to syncretize with the heathen and the unfruitful works of darkness.  See Willow Creek link below.***  Christianity today has so infiltrated society that it has become like unto the heathen in most sinful respects.  Syncretism is a tool of the devil to make the Church lukewarm.  It is clear in the words of Jesus that He can tell who is true and who is false and one big way of doing that is looking at who keeps his commandments and who doesn't and makes up new rules, times and seasons.

    >The early Christians took a major festive holiday of the pagans, threw out all of its trappings, changed its meaning, and effectively made it into a Christian holiday for the sake of evangelization.

    "Evangelization" is a buzz word used by the globalist change agents in the seeker-sensitive apostate churches.  In the days of Constantine the Romans took the Jewish faith as explained by Jesus Christ, changed it by eliminating the Jewish Feasts, all things Jewish and murdered the Jews who held to those beliefs.  In their place and instead of the Torah which the L~rd told them to keep, they installed Satanic rites of Mithracism, mother and child worship from Nimrod and much more.  It is set out here:  Too Long in the Sun. (this was linked in #15 and #234 above but you must have missed it the first time you read the thread.)   They changed what Jesus said and required  instead that for Jews to convert to Christianity, they had to make this oath.

    A Profession Of Faith From The Church Of Constantinople in the year 325 C.E.(A.D.) Under The Emperor Constantine

    I renounce all customs, rites, legalisms. unleavened breads & sacrifices of lambs of the Hebrews, and all other feasts of the Hebrews, sacrifices, prayers, aspersions, purifications, sanctifications and propitiations and fasts, and new moons, and Sabbaths, and superstitions, and hymns and chants and observances and Synagogues, and the food and drink of The Hebrews; in one word, I renounce everything Jewish, every law, rite and custom and if afterwards I shall wish to deny and return to Jewish superstition, or shall be found eating with The Jews, or feasting with them, or secretly conversing and condemning the Christian religion instead of openly confuting them and condemning their vain faith, then let the trembling of Gehazi cleave to me, as well as the legal punishments to which I acknowledge myself liable. And may I be anathema in the world to come, and may my soul be set down with Satan and the devils.

    Source: Parks, James The Conflict Of The Church And The Synagogue Atheneum, New York, 1974, pp. 397 - 398.

    Jews were murdered by so-called Christians to fulfill the demands of false prophets and wolves in sheeps clothing.  When a deceived Christian bows to demands of wolves and murders a Jew who is faithful to the Torah, it will obviously not be the "Christian" murderer "saved by grace" standing before the L~rd on Judgment Day being told, "Well done, thou good and faithful servant."  It is the antichrist who thought to change times and laws then to deceive the Church just as it is the same antichrist spirit who seeks to do it now.

    You might also look at this one.  Would Your Church Allow You To Be Like Jesus?

    >As I had shown, the Christmas Tree does not come from the ancient pagan tradition...

    You are incorrect in that assumption and shows you have done no research or just denied everything you don't like.  Using your model, you could use this as one of the elves for your Christmas decor, as it suits the phallic nature of the tree and you can "spread the word" at the same time, enjoy your spiritual fornication and have the ultimate in Syncretization and feel safe while doing it.

    > cannot be denied that the birth of Christ (the very incarnation of God here on earth) ought to be celebrated and recognized. If you can recognize this fact, what does it matter upon which day it is done?

    It can be denied because it was not his birth that he wanted celebrated but his death and resurrection and the reasons for that, which was discussed on this thread but you missed that too.  He was born in the fall and if one had to pick any date, why not pick Feast of Trumpets?  Why pick the date most loved by Satanists of the whole year?  Because it benefits the occult.  If any date will do, if you call the shots and make the rules, and change dates and times, then perhaps you don't need a L~rd that speaks, because you deny what He has said to do and you do what is right in your own eyes.

    Syncretization means to reconcile and unite (differing religious beliefs, for example), especially with partial success or a heterogeneous result.  It just more paving for the broad way to destruction.  It uses the propaganda technique called the Hegelian Dialiectic.  They bring two sides in opposition (thesis and anti-thesis) and have trained people to accept the Synthesis or Consensus (which is what the globalists intended at the start).  That Consensus has led to the exaltation of evil people and the murder of innocents.  It promotes the lukewarm, middle of the road, broad way to destruction.  For any who haven't done it, they should Google some of these terms for the propaganda techniques used for one world takeover:  Hegelian Dialectic - Diaprax - Delphi Technique - Gramsci

    Here's a start:  100 ~ 1052425 ~

     The Hegelian Dialectic and The New World Order
     Introduction - A Theory, and the Hegelian Dialectic
     The Meaning of "Original Sin"
     Toward the Total State by William Norman Grigg re Gramsci
     Who is Antonio Gramsci? You Better Learn!!!

     The intent is to destroy the nations, not unite them:  Allah and the Real-World-Order

     The Diabolical System of DIAPRAX
     Paul Proctor -- Diaprax Goes To Seminary
     Paul Proctor -- Archives
     Concerned Members - Links Library
     A Complete Explanation Of Hegel from an Unbiased Viewpoint
     Brainwashing in America - Berit Kjos
     Conforming the Church to the New Millennium - Berit Kjos
     The UN Plan for Your Mental Health
     Local Agenda - The U.N. Plan for Your Community
     How the Hegelian Dialectic is Transforming The World To Bring In The New World Order

    The Hegelian Dialectic

    "The dialectical method of  Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel  (1770-1831) consists of two main steps: the invention of artificial extremes (``thesis'' and ``antithesis'') which superficially conflict with each other, and the synthesis from that conflict of a goal, which is made to appear to be the product of consensus. The artificial extremes are chosen and propagandized (marginalizing the population) in such a way that the goal is naturally synthesized from them. It is, essentially, a trick - a fraud. It is a strategy of ideological divide-and-conquer.  The dialectic ruse dissipates the energy and coherency of its targets - unless they recognize the ruse as such.

    Hegel was a fountain of awful ideas, liberally cribbed by Marx and Engels, by the sickly and neurologically defective Mary Baker Eddy (founder of the Church of Christ, Scientist, which - as evidenced by its concept of "Malicious Animal Magnetism" - is in fact similar to Scientology), and by the Unitarians (who are historical proponents of universal government schooling in pursuit of socialist indoctrination).  Hegel was an influence on famed phenomenologist Martin Heidegger  (1889-1978) (NSDAP#3125894, 1933-May-1) (author of Being and Time (1927) and a critic of Hegel's methods), on French existentialist phenomenologist and Marxist  Jean-Paul Sartre  (1905-1980) (author of The Transcendence of the Ego (1937) and Being and Nothingness (1943)), and on "spiritualist" utopian Marxist philosopher  Ernst Bloch  (Das Prinzip Hoffnung (The Principle of Hope)).

    A central precept of the Hegelian ethic is that people are principally motivated by the desire to receive the approval and recognition of others, and to avoid their disapproval.*Since this motivation is not predicated on the reasonableness of that approval or disapproval, the principle is a mechanism by which an individual delegates arbitrary control to others. This is, obviously, an enabling principle of collectivism. By encouraging people to embrace this tendency, and amplify it into a preeminent mechanism of decision making, Hegelianism works directly to subvert the individual." ... Source ~

    *People have been trained to be man-pleasers, not God pleasers.

    Mt 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ;*** and shall deceive many.

    Mt 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

    *** or "I am a Christian..."