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Fight until you win great so what.

Someone needs to ask him if he belives mohamed is a prophet of god . being a muslim he will lie according to islamic practices of "taiyya and kitman" (google those terms ) but it would be fun to watch him squirm see how polished a liar he is

Someone needs to aske him i he belives mohammed is a prophet of god. He more then likly will lie as taught because he's a muslim.
But it would be fun to watch him squirm.

cHRISTIANS AND jEWS WERE TREATED "repectfully" EARLY ON while mohammed was weak after his army grew and they reject his lies they became the enemy forever. They are infidels of the first order.



5.17. Surely, in disbelief are they who say that Allâh is the Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary) . Say (O Muhammad ): "Who then has the least power against Allâh, if He were to destroy the Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), his mother, and all those who are on the earth together?" And to Allâh belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them. He creates what He wills. And Allâh is Able to do all things.

Islamic rule emanates from the Koranic teachings and the Hadeeth (the sayings and deeds of Mohammad) based on The Abode of Peace (Dar Al-Silm), and The Abode of War (Dar Al-Harb); and the Islamic (shari'a) law, the aim of which is to establish one unilateral Islamic Nation covering the whole world.


Yeah ,like any body cares the will not believe it until their head is on the blck not a minute before then

thanksFish here are some thoughs of my own

When I say Islam is evil, I am speaking of course from a western point of view, Where my upbringing and culture teaches me to respect life, liberty, personal responsibility, human rights & equality.
It gives me a chance to pass on to others the idea that sound judgment, hard work and opportunity and choice are intertwined.
They are the stuff of life and each a personal choice. They
should not be frittered away on pursuits of dubious and or
harmful undertakings; they should reflect values worth protecting.
But being personal choices, a person should not be condemned for their existence, but understand that their undertakings can be a reflection of the care and judgment a person uses in their life.
You can judge their actions and be forewarned and act accordingly knowing that not all ideas or endeavourers are equal in worthiness.
I would encourage others to hold values that are a reflection of truths, not things that they may be told by the media or people that lie, and act and make judgments with them as your moral compass.
Each person has the right to choose their path but not all paths are worth taking.

From a western POV, I accept that our past is not as long as other cultures but it’s founding documents are worth preserving and must be protected so that we can pass them down for posterity not just in written form but as well in practice.
As citizens we are obligated eternal vigilance and must use sound judgment to preserve our way of life.

Islam does not embrace these ideals, but instead seeks to destroy them in theory and practice.
http://www.islam.org.au/articles/21/khilafa.htm
That they believe they do this for our own good is not an excuse.
http://hss.fullerton.edu/comparative/jihad_objectives.htm


When I say Islam is evil I say so with a full understanding of Islam not from ignorance, the source of bigotry or guess work or wishful thinking as those in the west use as a rational to suggest that all ideas are equal benevolent or beneficial

I say it because it was made so, by the inventor and remains so today Islam is morally bankrupt, oppressive and vile it was founded on an easily exposed tissue of lies.
It abides and promotes rape of children, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/1206979.stm

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Testimonials/parvin.htm
It creates inequality between genders and brutality against women.
http://www.iad.org/books/S-women.html
http://www.secularislam.org/women/ground.htm
It creates inequality between Muslims and non-Muslims.
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-batyeor091803.asp
It establishes that in the marketplace of ideas, lying and deception are merely tools to use in the lulls between bullets and bombs.
According to Christian ethics lying is a sin; In Islamic jurisprudence and theology, the use of taqiyya against the unbelievers is regarded as a virtue and a religious duty.
www.ci-ce-ct.com/Feature%20articles/02-12-2002.asp

It goes on to command that once these ideas are embraced, to reject or question them carries a sentence of death as there is no compulsion in religion.
You do not have to return to Islam, you must die for leaving in the first place. Questioning or rejecting the immutable word of god is the gravest of sins and must be punished.
http://www.barnabasfund.org/Apostasy/Consequences.htm

If not, others may follow and Islam loses its superior position.

When I say we are at war with Islam it is not because I wish Islam to be eradicated.
I do so because Islam has divided the world into three houses: the house of peace, the house of treaties, and the house of war.
http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/History/dar_islam-harb.htm
Islam must conquer the house of war and the treaties it
draws up are contrivances for convenience and are worthless when you read the Quran.
It is more than certain that none know or have heard of the treaty of Hudaibiya, the fountainhead of Mohammedan rules of war games. Most have not even turned a page of the Koran or read what the politician-prophet had preached during his life time. Today we blame the Mohammedans for the bad deeds but not the Koran where they are clearly specified. http://www.swordoftruth.com/swordoftruth/archives/byauthor/aghosh/ttohatmotg.html

Because I wish to have my children pass on the possibilities the country affords, I work to reveal Islam for what it is out of selfish desire to have them enjoy a life and future free of a religious authority that carries no virtue because choice has been removed.
And although I believe in god It should be a choice and I don’t hold that choice against people who chose so, as I was as they are.
But Islam does not guarantee that freedom to grow.
Islam Questions & Answers
www.islam-qa.com
Question Reference Number:: 10300
the one who refuses to worship Allaah and the one who associates others in worship with Him are kaafirs (disbelievers), like atheists and deniers. Whoever denies the Creator or refuses to worship Him,or joins others in worship with Him, deserves the most severe punishment, because for a man to deny his Creator, or refuse to worship Him, or join others in worship with Him, is the most serious of human sins, the most abhorrent of beliefs and the worst deviation. If a person is like this, there is no value in any good deed that he does. The atheist who does deeds that are good in his own eyes, and does whatever good deeds he can for his society, is like a man who kills his father and mother and takes good care of dogs. Does it not make sense that he should be punished and that his good treatment of dogs should not count for anything? The most important rights are the rights of Allaah, which are that He should be acknowledged and worshipped. The one who neglects this most important right will not benefit from anything he does with regard to people?s rights. Therefore if the atheist does not believe in Allaah and does not worship Allaah, there cannot be any good in the actions that he does for people?s benefit. But this atheist or mushrik who treats people well is still better than the atheist or mushrik who oppresses and mistreats people, and denies them their rights. He may be rewarded for his good deeds by being granted provision of food and drink in this world, but he will have no share

Defenders and apologist take glee in their only weapons invent a concept of interpretation and attack Christianity and Judaism they revealed in the violent dogma of the old testament overlooking the metaphors and the fact the in the continuum of the faith Jesus came exposes and fulfilled the problematic concepts and fulfilled the laws bring a new covenant that supercedes the old teachings.
Islam claims that the Quran contains no contradiction and that Mohammed is a flawless example of the spiritual and progressive man. If the Qran is to remain without contradiction then rules of interpretation are set and are immutable,the new replaces the old and the new.It leaves very little wiggle room for Muslims who seek to reform Islam and the reward for these reformers is a painful reminder of the laws of gravity and morality
Suliman Bashear, was thrown out of the window by his scandalized Muslim students.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/001202.php

So when islam present Ideas like these
Two Quranic ayas read as follows:
9.014 "Fight them (infidels) and Allah will punish them by your (muslims) hands"
9.052 ""Allah will afflict you (infidels) with punishment from himself (Allah) or by our(muslims) hands"

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/2396

There is very little left in the Quran to refute or abrogate them because although they appear in the beginning of the Quran they were revealed at the highpoint of Mohammed’s military career and there is just nothing left to interpret.


So as it has been said many times in many ways here that I can barely string two words together or grasp any ideas.
So if evil is not the right word what is?

Sorry no i did not mean it to sound that way these are short essays from another board that mostly went unread and un commented on by muslim apolgists and muslims.
should have explained that but I not that used to this boards format.
your position and post were evident for what they are a person who does more then pay lip service to truth thanks.

]9/11’s silver lining for what its worth

Fundamental Islam pulled the trigger to soon for their own good.
God does work in mysterious ways he has given us an opportunity to wake up and see the enemy .
There are lots of things to look at and though we can go about it at our leisure there is a degree of urgency that should be considered and time will always be an issue in the course of human events.
In the interval after the towers fell I told my attorney that our policies had come back and bitten us in the ass.
To some extent that is still true we are not a Muslim nation and don’t ascribe to following Allah’s laws and in the final analysis that is the issue.
I have a fervent wish that our policies do not change.

So whether the towers fell to chase US out of Saudi Arabia or to choke off support for the house of Saud or to what ever you want to point to. It is really not the big picture.
The big picture is there is no daylight between the ultimate goals of the followers of Mohammed that are so kind warm and generous in your local area and the sword wielding maniac in the streets of Fallugia only the technique differs.

I though Muslims were getting a raw deal but since people were dying, I decided I better find out for sure because someone was playing for keeps and I did not want to be on the wrong side of gullibility or deluded by a convincing lie. So I began to study Islam, to see if they were telling the truth or lying with a purpose.

Now I face a more entrenched advisory those who did not wake up on the days after 9/11 and begin to find out unequivocally whether Islam was getting a raw deal had been highjacked or twisted they depend on the same voices that I heard but didn’t check it out, to see if they were telling the truth or lying with a purpose.
They depend solely on their feelings and guess’s and opinions of others to fully understand Isalm and have decided it is not a threat.

How do I know they did not check it out .
Because Islam tells me so. Not CAIR OR THE AAID or the talking heads on TV or the president of the United States .

Islam foundational documents the Quran and hadiths tell me this, and the news flashes confirm that they can be accurately translated.
It is that or Islamic terrorist are all reading English Quran and we need to get then copies in Arabic .

Why would the media and the president and Muslims lie when he says Islam means peace?
It’s simple they are not lying directly it is a lie of omission a lie that requires you to become a partner of something. Islam means peace after you surrender after you submit to the will of Mohammed’s Allah.
After you accept Islam as the arbiter of your life’s the governing tenets.

Now at first blush this doesn’t sound to good but wait it gets worse.

If you are a person who is a Hindu or some other system of belief that does not believe in the last days and whatiever other nonsensical caveats and distinctions Islam’s inventer concocted with your future is set.
You die.
Which is good because who wants to live as a second class citizen .

If you are what they call people of the book you get to live if you are willing to live as a second class citizen and a slave who pays for his keep.
This does not apply to men between the ages of say ten and seventy . You die Which is a good thing because who wants to live as a slave.
Preachers are excempt. They get to live thought they can no longer preach or do upkeep on their churches, children will be slaves and woman turned out as sex slaves lower than common street whores, to be raped at the will of any muslim male with out compensation.
Now why would I say things like this It all sounds so hateful and bigoted.
Yup it sure does but what if Im telling the truth and the truth is uglier then you could ever imagine ?
If you have read my posts in the past you will find one overriding theme.
Find out for yourself, study Islam don’t take my word or anyone else’s study until you understand islams message.

I don’t care If you use the guide in my profile or go about it the way I did reading the Quran and going to Islamic websites for a full year 18 hours a day for a year.

But do not stop studying until you understand the concept that the Quran contains no contradictions and it is not in order of how it was revealed.
Abrogation is how Mohammed deals with the apparent contradictions.
google. =abrogation+islam =Search

Do not stop until you understand the concept of Taqiyya and kitman. Concepts that prove Islam is not an extension of Christianity or jusism and has nothing in common with them but borrowed names and distorted stories that don’t carry any of the lesson or flavor of the original text.

Now How will you know you are understanding Islam ? When will you understand I don’t know It will be different for each person.
But here is a clue Islam compels believers to spread Islam to the world and if they happen to kill a bunch of people to do it that’s OK and no big deal.
They are doing it for your own good so you can be saved from hellfire.

http://www.ci-ce-ct.com/Feature%20articles/02-12-2002.asp

If they have to lie that’s a good thing. Not a sin .You need to stop thinking like a westerner and start thinking like the enemy if you want to preserve the constitution. Muslims will, given the chance overturn the constitution and supplant it with sharia law.
That is the goal of the friendly Muslim down the street and the maniac in fallugia.

You can take the blue pill and wake up tomorrow and post that I’m a bigot and an ignorant liar, or you can take the red pill and find out for sure no one can tell you what Islam is you have to discover it for yourself.[

Islam intends on changing America and to some degree has already .It’s ideology is one of conquest and control .you may dismiss the immigration and birthrate numbers over look the changing face of the world in other countries Right now Iran is asking Germany and France to stand with them against US in their desire to have nuclear weapons .
Why do you think they would consider this ?
Because they have a serious % of Muslims in those countries on a remote control making the government impotent to do anything that is right any longer. This is our future .You can be as Pollyanna as you wish to think that there is not threat or nothing needs to be done.
SO try to think about France, and say they stand with US how many suicide bombers before they crumble ?1-15 when do they round them up ? what is the % of explosive Muslim 1% of 5million people 2 %
No. they don’t stand with US and they are ruled from Tehran. They become a tool of the Islamic world on the UN security council. Then what ? More of the same more demands against the US further weakening. Try to remember they are not crazed blood thirsty killers they are doing this for your own good.
Do we stop American born boy and girls returning to America coming “home” from Saudi Arabia after being whisked away from here and raised in Islamic hate since there very first breath?
No, of coarse not, do you think they have any desire to preserve the constitution and have a natural love of this country.
Where does their first loyalty lie or the second or third?
Your western thinking clouds your mind Islam is a complete way of life not compartmentalized for you own good they come to bring an end to oppression and injustice ,a new way of living with new laws and government it is all for your own good a better way.
Submit or die, behave or die, dress this way, eat this way or die.
How many suicide bombers before you demand they are rounded up.
Try to remember they are not crazed blood thirsty killers they are doing this for your own good.
This has nothing to do with Japanese or Christians this is about the future and keeping people alive and free as best we can the constitution is going to be rewritten,
whether you like it or not.
Islam has already won, because it is a political ideology wrapped in religious cloth and you wont call it what it is.
It is no different then Nazism just older better dressed and behind enemy lines.

Your contention that you have traveled to muslim countries call into question the veracity of all of your statements this is a from the fatwa’s database on my site fatwa’s are ruling of Islamic ideas to clarify concepts for muslims want to know which is the islamic government?
dear respected brother which government in the world could we call islamic as all support west ?We know of a number of Muslim governments but none of them are truly
Islamic.
The Taliban government was considered a truly Islamic government.
and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
Mufti Muhammad Kadwa
FATWA DEPT.
CHECKED AND APPROVED: Mufti Ebrahim Desai

As you can read the Taliban which they pray will rise again well you get the picture
Sure most Muslims are nice they have no idea what is written in their books and they are for lack of a better term Christmas and Easter Muslims

I may be wrong but your wronger

http://fruitofislam.com
http://prophetofdoom.net

USING THE TERM RADICAL TO DISCRIBe THE FUNDIMENTAL MUSLIMS IS INCORRECT.
IF ISLAM WHERE A PEACE RELGION THE RADICAL WOULD BE ULTRA PACIFISTS THEY ARE NOT.
ISLAM IS A BLOOD THRISTY HATE GROUP CREATED BY A FALSE PROHPEt.
NOTHING CAN CHANGE THAT BUT USING THE WRONG TYPE OF WORDS WILL ALLOW THEM A DEGREE OF COVER THAT IS DANGEROUS TO ALL.

FROM MY EXTENSIVE RESEARCH I HAVE CONCLUDED ISLAM IS COMPATABLE WITH DEMOCRACY WITH CERTIAN CAVATES (SIC)
THE NATION MUST BE MUSLIM NO EXCEPTIONS
THE LAW MUST BE SHARIA

http://fruitofislam.com

YES CHINA IS BECOMING MORE OPEN
AND CANADA MORE CONDUSIVE TO LIBERTY
FREEDOM IS BREAKING OUT ALL OVER

HTTP://FRUITOFISLAM.COM
FULL SCALE 9/11 INFO AND CLEARINGHOUSE ON ISLAM