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Without the melodramatics, doesn’t the whole thing reduce to that, in essence? Yes, or no?

Is conversion of a gasoline engine to run on LPG vastly different from kits used to make these engines run on CNG?

Because the kits for the former aren’t $12,000+ but much cheaper than that, from what I’ve known.

How would you counter the above inference?

The Bible, composed of the literature of mortal humans, says so. That’s proof enough, LOL!

The Bible, composed of the literature of mortal humans, says so. That’s proof enough, LOL!

He's insecure, egoistic and immature.

Must be running large medical bills for blood-pressure pills and anti-depressants, I bet.

In this, you will see real people being described, real witnesses, specific events being detailed, descriptions, and eye-witness accounts. You will find people such as the closest disciples of Christ in a state of fear and dismay after his crucifixtion go into hiding. Yet three days later they actually ate with the risen Christ (not some apparition) and went onto preach the good news to the pagans at the time (the Gita crowd), many of them were converted, and all except for St. John were martyred. It was on the blood of martyrs the Church flourished.

LOL, you are assuming mythology for fact, here. There's no solid proof of any of this, other than from the Bible itself, written and compiled from scraps of literature decades after this supposed Christ was dead. Poor records of any of these fantasies exist from Roman sources, if any, and plenty of texts have been ordered to be destroyed by this cabalistic group for fear of upsetting their grand plan. All your sources for your mundane, superstitious beliefs came from dubious characters themselves, and years after they were supposed to have happened. Large and significant details of the happenings of the era amusingly coincide with past mythologies of the region- including those of the Greeks, the Romans, the Egyptians and the Mithras, among others. Prominent festivities of this superstitious cult have their origins in pagan ones, including Christmas and Easter.

Go even further back in time, and this cult was built upon the superstitions of even spectacular human imagination. Moses talked to bushes, fire wrote Hebrew sentences on stones, seas parted on command, and the Jews enjoyed ritual mutilation of baby penises, whilst indulging in "purity" rituals and other garbage.

For more than two millennia thereafter some of the most brilliant and searching minds on this planet have examined this revelation that has mushroomed to all corners of the globe. Countless departments of higher education, theologians, scholars and historians of every color and stripe have examined the synoptic Gospels and the Catholic Credo.

Pure tripe.

There is nothing brilliant about swallowing whole the products of fantastic human imagination; and of the characters- the own contemporaries of whom barely maintained any record of such supposed spectacular happenings, and all sources of which end up coming from the same bunch of unreliable and dubious characters who spread the fantasies to usurp a decaying empire, and made themselves absolute rulers.

Catholicism is a cult that indulges in such spectacular human attributes as idolatry, Satan-rituals, imperialism and the like. The Founding Fathers recognized the dangers posed by these barbarians, and the fact that the areas of the lands this scourge was prominent in- Spain, Italy, Argentina, etc., have all been susceptible to dictatorships. The same coterie indulged in dubious means of financial support, such as selling "salvation", buying sins with payment, empire-building, and then supporting the despicable king-priest-peasant cycle of social hierarchy to further their nefarious activities.

Innumerable magazines, reviews, books, treatises, journals, and articles to this day continue to examine this revealed Truth. Conversions have occurred by the galore from the very learned (GK Chesterton) as have miracles of faith. Be informed this is not the stuff of some obscure Gita tracts.

"Revealed truth" and 20 cents will get you a cup of coffee.

Obscure Biblical tracts, many of which were cunningly hidden and then destroyed from the investigative eyes, were all part of the scheme to sell garbage, and "harvest" souls. Suddenly, in the age of science and technology, no spectacular miracles, no verifiable apparitions, none of the supernatural happenings that intrigued the primitive minds. How strange, LOL!

2. As Cronos so well points out, the specific targeting of Catholics, Christians, and Sikhs for butchering by Hindus is somehow downplayed by you to shifting this genocidal and barbaric criminality to the NLFT and you try to compare this to the LTTE. The LTTE is no different than the Basque Terrorists, a well organized militia, well financed by expatriates, suicide bombings, and in control of fairly well defined geographical enclaves.

Listen, before indulging in verbal diarrhea, please don't obscure facts by claiming the rioting murderers as Hindus, while being dumbfounded at the same time when proof of the Hindus who HELPED the Sikhs was pointed to you. Comparing the Congress thugs to Hindus is akin to comparing the NAZIS to Catholicism- the leader of whom was a product of the Catholic culture itself- Adolf Hitler.

SOURCE: The Telegraph

To try and compare a rag-tag band like the NLFT to these groups is more than absurd, it is flatly untrue.

NLFT, rag-tag? By what standards? These murderous mobs are only "rag-tag" for specimens of ignorant buffoonery such as yourself. Go see Global Security reports on the group, before mouthing your ass off.

If that doesn't help, I'll lead you to BBC articles on the same.

To use this as a cover to expunge Hindu atrocities only helps validate the sheer illiteracy of the Hindu masses and their firebrand swamis who feel that exposure to the synoptic Gospels will reveal the fraud of the myths in the Gita and the pantheon of Hindu deities -including gods incarnated as monkeys, elephants, baboons, lions, and reptiles and in the end spell the doom of their parasitic temple livelihood.

Nobody is using this for any cover. If you cannot accept that the culture that you want to champion also had its dubious characters, then tough luck. Fact remains fact, however bitter it is to your tribe.

And again, for the n-th time, please exercise some degree of intellectual honesty by not mixing the teachings of the Gita with other superstitions. If you persist, I'll point out how Catholics raise encapsulated pieces of dead flesh, dead bodies, "relics", idols, snakes and the like to divine status, and continue to indulge in doing so, by calling them "venerations". They kiss, cuddle, wrap themselves with and around all this garbage for "spiritual" and "physical" cures.

The Catholic culture is vividly evident in the slums of South America, and other hell-holes, as per the standards you delight in applying to the Hindus.

This scum of the earth has been allowed to infiltrate and settle without legal sanction in vast areas of the cities in the United States- all pouring out like human sewage from the lands of Catholicism, south of the border.

They come here and indulge in unspeakable crimes, violent murders, cheating, theft and intimidation, all directly leading to the failure of large swathes of the American frontier.

Then there is the cult of pedophilia that the culture promotes, which is an entire section for discussion, altogether.

All these, strictly as per the standards you have established to describe "Hindus".

You even tried lamely to equate a garden variety type isolated act of theater vandalism following screening of the Da Vinci Code to arson.

Smashing theaters, destroying property, rioting, burning pamphlets and books from publishing houses, all these are not excusable, my dear ignorant friend! And "garden variety"? Considering the fact that you share religious and cultural kinship with the murderous criminal aliens from the south of the border, arson and rioting might be "garden variety" to this cult you belong to.

But the mass slaughtering of Sikhs and the torching of their properties by rampaging mobs of Hindus is explained away as incitement by governmental machinations.

Such is the nature of the pathetic defenses you offer to assuage the vile acts of Hindus.

Ooh, rampaging mobs of Hindus. What are you, daft? The anti-Sikh riots had nothing to do with Hinduism and ALL to do with the Congress political party, the same coterie that sustains its power based on votes from India's minorities, especially the Muslims and the Catholics.

By your own standards, the NAZIS were a product of a Catholic culture. I repeat, by your own standards, as faulty as they may be.

Finally about the use of the word “toileting” It needs bearing that the Christ Himself used colorful language such as “brood of vipers” to describe willful unbelievers in the face of revealed truth.

Christ himself was a myth. Deal with it. All of this character's details come from unverifiable and dubious sources, many of them deliberately destroyed by this cult of usurpers, the successors of which established the Papal Office as the continuation of the Roman Imperial regime, and indulged in such disgusting activities as accepting monetary compensations for sins of adultery, the whole deal not too different from the activities of today's pimps. Let alone that, the same cabalistic tribe indulged in empire-building, demarcating the planet for different constituents of this cult, and orchestrating mass slaughters and persecution, only limited by their relatively poor technological capabilities- swords and primitive muskets. Women were burned, men were tortured and executed, at will and with wanton abandon. The Founding Fathers of this very nation recognized the garbage for what it stood, and rightly relegated it to the sidelines in their day. You would be one of those of the tribe of the happily ignorant to smile with glee and claim a common "kinship" with these people in spite of their great efforts to distance themselves from the Catholic cult that you claim allegiance to.

Almost all of America, its bounty and its success, and that of the Western World which came about 1600+ years after the establishment of the cult of Catholicism, came about after the people of these lands rejected wholesale, the Papal garbage pouring out of Rome, lead by none other than the likes of Martin Luther, who cleansed the cult of its barbarism and ignorance, to lead to the foundation of modern Deism, that lead to secular/ atheistic leaders who ultimately established and guided the supremacy of these lands.

Places that stuck with the superstitions of Catholicism, ended up being the hell-holes of South America.

That said, it was hilarious to watch you squirm when you were impotent to do anything when it was shown to you by others and me, that Deism is not Catholicism, or even the mythological Christian umbrella culture, for that matter.

And as for comparing Santayana to Gov. Bobby Jindal, well I’ll let this comparison speak for itself.

Ooh, a more-or-less average politician, with nothing significant under his belt, is now compared to one of the most prominent American thinkers? What kind of a Jindal fanboy are you?

Definitely pedo, definitely not yoga.

And Rastafarian? LOL!

Surgery and modern medicine is “unnatural” too.

There was religious objection to anesthesia, once upon a time, not too long ago.

I’ve read elsewhere that one is a domestic currency, while the other is used in foreign trade.

It provides the Chinese authorities with more levers to manipulate, AFAIK.

I agree with you.

I don’t want people facing prison for what they say. Let them be free to mouth off as they want. That’s the best way to let others judge them, and treat appropriately.

A hidden NAZI is more dangerous than an open, loud-mouth variety.

I think the whole concept of racism, unless it involves physical, societal or financial loss to the aggrieved party, should be discarded into the dustbins of history.

Bricks and stones may break your bones, but words SHOULD never hurt you.

I get the gist of what you are trying to establish, but the NLFT does have Christianity as part of its agenda. The ethnicity is Khaasi. The violence is of Christian Khaasis upon tribal Khaasis. Their constitution clearly specifies Christianity as its driving agenda.

The LTTE is not a religious organization, and had prominent Catholics like Anton Balasingham as one of its chief strategists.

As for Jindal “toileting” something for Catholicism, I doubt he’s ever read the Gita. In America, it has become a silly popularity contest to proclaim religion for any position of power. Politicians like Thomas Jefferson wouldn’t have a chance in today’s politics. Too much of the idiot masses has been empowered with the right to vote, in opposition to what was the norm at the time of the Founding Fathers- only a privileged minority exercised the power to decide.

That said, George Santayana, to borrow the delicacy of words Steelfish is an expert in utilizing, “toileted” his Catholic faith for Atheism.

The problem with Islam is fundamental. It was designed after the observations of the prominent faults of the other two religions it was invented out of- Judaism and the various flavors of Catholicism and Syrian Christianity. It ascertains supremacy and dominance over all other faiths, and by doing so, paints on itself a big, round target.

Atheism has so far concentrated on the various religions of “Christianity” and its fallacies. That’s changing. If the YouTube videos are anything to go by, Islam is the new target.

The Muslims, by the strict definition of their aims and faith as conferred upon themselves by their religion, are fundamentally antagonistic to all other religions and any hopes of reconciliation is founded on ignorance on part of the Muslims themselves, regarding the aim of their faith.

I know that. I was only following the same guidelines Steelfish set to describe who a Hindu is, and who a Catholic is.

To him, rioters are Hindus, while at the same time, Latino druglords are not Catholics. I applied the same, back to him.

My favorite was the tank, mostly because it was battery-operated.

But the thing was a technological marvel of the toy world for the age bracket- the barrel direction could independently control the power transmission to the tracks, allowing the tank to actually turn like real tanks do.

Newton’s faith: Arianism.

“Dominating the secular intellectual milieu in which the Cappadocians lived was Platonism, which, when mixed with unreflective Christian theology, bred Arianism, the most prominent heresy at the dawn of the fourth century. According to Platonism, the One or “first cause” radiated immaterial and material entities in a hierarchical, categorized way. If this conceptualization had remained unchecked, the Christian God could have been given a Platonic veneer: the Father as the “first cause,” the Son or Logos as the primary emanation from the One, and the Spirit as a further emanation of the Logos. Arianism held that the Son of God was a being created by the First Person and could not be considered divine, an attractive option incorporating both classical Greek thought and the historical event of the person of Jesus.”

I didn’t know ammonium nitrate could burn. Explode, yes, but burn? Slow burning?

Even for it to become explosive, it needs things like fuel oil, correct?