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Jefferson Smurfit Group,p.l.c.,a massive transnational conglomerate wich is the largest paper-based packaging company in the world, with over 8 billion dollars per year in revenue. Dr.T.A. Reynolds, Jr. a member of the board of Gannett New Services, one of the largest newspaper chains in a America. This may also have to do with the fact that Jefferson Smurfit is the number four supplier of newsprint in US. Oh yeah and Gannett is a major owner of many television stations across the US. AKA Gannett Broadcasting.

Well that's one I'd never heard.

Shouldn't we be a little worried when foreign company's count the vote? Just as Josef Stalin said "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." And in the same vein as to the De La Rue company. Those who hold the money own nothing and those who print it own everything!

These so called american voting machine company's export this stuff all over the world! So in effect were exporting vote fraud and election fixing through out the world!

Wow I just got done going over a video from a investigative journalist Daniel Hopsicker. The video was called the "The Big Fix 2000". And he basically went back and traced were the voting machines involved in the voting so called iregularities came from, and he also looked into the fact that there are only a handful of company's involved in the election process in this nation with Sequoia Pacific responsible for the counting of one third of American voters ballots cast in any election. Sequoia Pacific some time in the past seen fit to change there name to Sequoia Voting systems. My own county just brought in the new touch screen machines wich were produced by none other than Sequoia Voting Systems. Straight from Manhattan Elections Commissioner Douglas Kilner, Sequoia Pacific refused to provide documentation as to the security of it's voting machines, when it was bidding on providing these machines to Manhattan. They also refused to allow any election officials to look at the tabulation code to verify it was accurate and un corruptable. But any computer person with a programming background could quite easily fix the code to tabulate votes in such a way to ensure that what ever candidate they wanted would win the election. And computerized voting machines leave no paper trail to prove otherwise! He also said that Sequoia and other similiar companys are guilty of misleading elections officials as to the security of these systems. He also said some are guilty of bribery. Imagine that! What is even more concerning is who owns these companys. Daniel Hopsicker uncovered that many of these companys are owned by persons that have some very shady backgrounds. Felons & known mobsters, maybe even worse foreigners with criminal pasts. Sequoia Pacific itself is owned by a Dr. Michael Smurfit a extremely wealthy Irish doctory , who has been indicted for fraud in spain & under possible indictment over a leveraged buy out of an american container shipping company tied in some how with Mobile Oil. I went to Sequoia Voting systems web site www.sequoiavote.com and found that Sequoia is now being aquired by another foreign company De La Rue wich is aquiring an 85% share in the company just has Sequoia begins to brach out into all kinds of neat ventures , like fraud proof id's , and fraud proof driver's licenses for the state of N.Y. and I.D. cards for some south american country's. Ian Much chief executive of De La Rue said the Smurfitt would retain 15% interest in the company, and that it's aquisition of 85% interst in Sequoia fits in with De La Rue's traditional business of protecting financial value & personal identity. There considered a leader in secure currency & cash management , with that last bit being that they print one in five of every one of the World's Bank noets! As stated on the Sequoia web site. They also recently got a contract to produce 500million euro's for the European Central Bank! De La Rue is based in Hampshire England! Our system of voting and our very constitution has been subverted by foriegn company's, criminals, and even our past rulers from europe. When will we all take notice, and take back our country and reinstate our constitutional rights as they were meant when our founding fathers wrote them. I suggest anyone interested in taking a look at this video on you're own go to his web site at www.madcowprod.com , he's also looked into many other areas of criminality! Oh yes and those machines that had so many problems in FL. in 2000. Were the same machines that caused similiar problems in Louisiana in a past election. Louisiana was ordered to destroy the machines and not resel them to any other states for election purposes! They first tried to pawn them off to N.Y. according to Douglas Kelner Manhattan Elections Comissioner!

As you can see from recent events here many people around the world have a negative view on our gun rights in the United States. And many imply that we are a nation of gun toteing nuts. Does there past history of dictatorships , state spondsered mass murder, all done only after the citizens were disarmed, make a good case for disarming the public? Do all of these high profile shootings and the constant publicity world wide of these events. To play on the fears of everyday citizens. To make law abiding gun owners feal like criminals. Do these events have similaritys to Hitler's Germany , there burning of the Reichstagg to create a percieved enemy to the public and for the goverment to come to there rescue at the cost of there rights. Is it really just the hunk of steels fault? Or is it the hands fault? Or should we outlaw trigger fingers?

Yeah I think Judicial Watch still has quite a back log on Janet WACO!!!

How quick you are to dismiss every one who has a different opinion of the world as yours, as a nut case.... Is that fear that is causing you to make such rash judgements?

Try looking at archives of story's about the bombing of the world trade centers in the New York Times... Is a conspiracy really a conspiracy once a major newspaper prints it as truth?

I think the point is foreign troops under foreign command. Once you join our millitary (and you don't have to be a citizen to join) your not really a foreigner any more.....

As a ex airline employee I take a little offense at the notion that during the gulf war we perceived no threats here on our own soil.... During that time passenger loads dropped dramatically wich equals revenue wich equaled jobs I think you might get the picture!

While the foreign troops have been here many years training and what not, this points to a lot of things many so called fringe elements have been saying would happen here..... Our troops are overseas and the foreign troops are moving in here!!!! I hope that is just a twisted conspiracy theory of the one world goverment deal, but who really knows? The Alex Jones Radio program has been pounding this point for hears and made a few documentary videos , not to mention a large cache of documented storys from major media sources here and abroad. He's gotten my attention and respect time and time again. I would hope others might look at his site at www.infowars.com

And when they asked Osama to SAWENDER! His answer was CRACKERS! More cheese please!

I would like to bring your attention to many more articles that point to there being prior knowledge of the attacks. Such as "Hijackers may have trained at U.S. military bases, from MSNBC.. And "Friendyl Fire " from May 1 01 on ABC.com wich touches on a very disturbing plan from the sixties called "Operation Northwoods" , also written about By James Bramfords book "Body of Secrets". You can find all these articles and more at www.infowars.com scroll down to attack on america and then to recources cited on Alex jones broadcasts click on that and you'll see all of the above and many more...... Maybe you'll want to post some of those under the Reichstag heading or worse!

You're pretty quick to dismiss me as a cook to bring up Mr. Sweeney's web site. Have you ever been there or did you go there at all and read the article? You also might want to check some other info maybe you'll find it more credible due to the fact it was in the so called mainstream media? You can find it at www.infowars.com a site for the Alex jones radio show out of Austin Texas... Scroll down to Attack on america then to Resources cited by Alex jones during his broad cast. Check out operation Northwoods... James Bramfords book "Body of Secrets" as it also pertains to operation Northwoods, Then there's "Friendly Fire" article from May 1 on ABC.com of this year. Wich also touches on Operation Northwoods. There are many articles there from the mainstream media there that touch on many points that don't show the CIA as being the bumbeling idiots they've been potraid as over the events of sept.11....

Might I suggest you read a article by Michael Sweeney at his site www.paranoid.com. Prior knowledge of 911 atacks and the very plausible reasons as to why and who stands to gain greatly because of all this. Stinks very much like Bush senior and the Gulf war all over again.... More like Pearl Harbor again and there is proof now to there being prior knowledge of that atack and a very good way of getting the american people heart and soul into the war!!!!!