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I think the demise of these groups is all carefully orchestrated and kept in a low profile so that the other sheep don't become agitated and fearful.

You are too correct I fear. What will it take? Where is the rage at the supression of dreams?

Land patents should be good in our courts but, up to now they have not been upheld in the courts. Pacific Legal Foundation would not touch my claim on a patent and my patent was part of a Mexican land grant and only 4 owners since statehood. Our courts are redefining the law of the land.

I think people now are so fearful of their government that they are secretly glad the government is focused on some other victim. They think if they just huddle down low enough, long enough they will survive unscathed. Too often I hear people say that it is really bad but at least it won't happen in their lifetime. They do not know it has already happened.

You only have to pay premiums if you owe money on the property. The rates are set by FEMA no matter what insurance company you purchase the policy thru. The money does all go to FEMA.

FEMA does have the right to suspend your Constitutional rights if it declares an emergency and it involves your property. ANY emergency. Remember the entire town they relocated a few years back when the Mississippi flooded? Where did they go? How do you relocate a town? Did they relocate the town on Federal land or on private property?

FEMA can confiscate your property (if they say you are in harms way--and keep it!), your food supplies for redistribution, clothing, etc.

This is one of the scariest departments the government has come up with yet. They are omnipotent and not beholding to the people in any way.

You are absolutely correct! This forum actively restricted information on the Sawgrass Rebellion and people, Freepers, who wanted to show at my Tracy rally were discouraged from coming by the veiled hoopla presented by this forum. I was shocked and appalled by FR stand.

I live in the Delta of CA and we are the next step for "restoration" to our pristine swamp origins. The Everglades is a proving ground for taking our farming area leaving USA food production to third world nations that truly do not like us.

A lot of times these purchased development rights are for forever and these owners may not have wanted to saddle their heirs with a committment to keep the farm as a farm for all eternity. Often a farm would not be the best use of the property in the future. The agreement would keep this as a farm for all time. Depending on its location, the farm may be worth well over the current offer to the heirs if it were developed.

It is very difficult to get buyers for property with no possible changes--ever. Then there is the issue of getting a loan on the property--banks do not like to loan on property with no future increase in value.

The other thing to consider as a possible reason why the owners are not interested in the sale of the development rights is that the purchase can entail what the owner can do with the property, i.e., add a barn, remodel a house, remove a building, add or remove a fence and so on.

Another reason, what if adjacent properties make it impossible to farm this property. Then what do you do?

The biggest issue is why should these non-vested interests be taking private property from the owners?

Love this plan. The Farm Bill is hated by most small farmers in CA and many I know in other ag areas. In our area a Delta Protection Commission (put in place by the state and enforcing layered control over 100,000+ acres)is seeking to put a Resource Conservation & Development program in place thru the Farm Bill. This is a free Federal Agent to help us poor, dumb farmers get grant $$ from the government. No strings! Want to buy a bridge?

What a great idea! How can we implement it?

Go everyone! This is well worth your time. I see many of you are reading it. It took me days to assimilate the convolutions here and I still read new facets into this scam. The minds that connived this are indeed devious and unrelenting! The players! So many and so well-known! I have been trying to "get it" since 2000 and it is still mind-boggeling!

Maybe with this report coming out in Free Republic, now the media will begin to do some real reporting. Real reporting sells papers too--I think they forgot that fact in their quest for feel-good news for the happy masses.

I was aware of this info thru another source two years ago. Your compilation is very organized and coherent. This is an extremely complicted and convoluted scam. Congratulations on a job well done.

I notice comments on how long it is but no rage. Are Freepers becoming jaded by the criminal activities?

I know of three respected researchers that have come up with the same information. Independently, I might add, and none are living near each other. No media source nor any law enforcement agency seems moved to check the information out? WHY?

The public has passed countless bond issues under false or misleading titles--many people do not read the guide, they only read titles. Who does ot want clean water?

This bill is really about $3.44 BILLION FOR LAND ACQUISITION by my all time favorite group, CalFed! CalFed, if you recall, is the group seeking to improve the Delta by shipping 10,300 CUBIC FEET OF WATER PER SECOND (THAT IS PER SECOND!!) SOUTH. We do have to help San Diego recoup their loss of Colorado River water...and the fishies, especially the Delta Smelt who is making a great recovery and needs to get it's finny fanny off the 'List'!

Go Grange!

Even the Farm Bureau saw thru this one, but who is getting to the voters to educate them? We continually preach to the choir. How do we ever get this information out to John Q. Sportsfan so they can understand the gravity of the issues??

I repeat--they are taking 10,300 cubic feet per second more water!--south. This will dry up the farming area of the south Delta. The part of the Delta this water is coming from is over 700,000 acres identified as prime ag land. The non-elected Delta Protection Commission (an arm of CalFed) does not oppose this loss of water. Already many of our pumps are out of water--that is why the barriers have been installed. Our water is so low that the tides will inundate us with salt water. Our property is too good to develop--we are protected ag land yet our water is drained. We do not care about housing in the south as long as they provide their own water. I see no need for my home to be destroyed and my property rendered worthless so someone can fill a swimming pool in SoCal.

Anyone see anything wrong with NAFTA yet? There is no level playing field when we have our enviro restrictions/regulations/labor costs/binding arbitration in CA compared to off shore countries without the above. There is no way we can compete!

I was just at a CalFed South Delta Improvement Program regarding the placement of permanent barriers on Old River, Middle River and the Grantline Canal waterways that feed the Fore Bays facility that send water south.

Their aim to 'improve' our water for irrigation is to install barriers that will direct and control water in such a way that they will be able to ship 10,300 cfs MORE south! THAT IS CUBIC FEET PER SECOND! Target date is 2007. When asked where this water is coming from they said raising Shasta Dam and Los Vaqueros increasing to the 500,000 figure in the article. These guys are greedy and thirsty with no end in sight. The phenomenal amount of 10,300 cfs going south will blow your mind--visualize a room 20+' x 50' x 10'=10,000cfs of water moving past you every second. This is not total flow! This is ABOVE what they are sending south now!

I hope lots of people tell CalFed this is enough!

Water levels are always up on our rivers here in the CA Delta on major holidays for boaters. I would bet it is a standard policy to manipulate the water levels. We have watched this happen over the last 30 years. Go get them on this one. It is a manipulation for sure!

So that is what is wrong with Wilson--always wondered. Compounded the problem caused by his realtives dropping him on his head as a babe.

What was/is the Pacific Decadal Oscillation?

Sure hope it is the sucker that gets in the spawning mood and not the greens or the gov officials! We have way too many now in CA. Want some--free to a good home? Good home not a must...

How do you say, "Yep!", in code??????