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  • It may be time to disown California...

    11/03/2010 7:34:44 PM PDT · 10 of 57
    rom to The Looking Spoon

    I left almost exactly a year ago — came to Texas. While I miss the beaches and my folks, I love having a job, sane politics, low taxes, low cost of living, etc.

    My blood pressure would have boiled if I were still in CA after seeing Brown become governor! With 12%+ unemployment, and a housing market that is getting worse and worse ... I’m really glad I left. A lot of my friends are struggling to find a job.

  • Cardinal Schonborn Said WHAAAT??? [Catholic Caucus]

    05/11/2010 7:38:53 PM PDT · 12 of 25
    rom to notaliberal

    I fail to see how they are trashing the church?

  • Where did the Protestant justices go?

    05/11/2010 8:26:49 AM PDT · 10 of 13
    rom to Cronos

    Are you seriously trying to equate Christian Scientists to Protestants?

    Even though the soteriology of some of those other groups differ, most of them hold to the solas of the Reformation.

    Have a lot of denominations fallen into error? Absolutely. And thus begins the rise of Evangelical non-denominational Christianity.

  • [PRESBYTERIAN CAUCUS] Lawsuit: Church Kept Sex Predator Hire Under Wraps

    05/11/2010 8:18:04 AM PDT · 5 of 13
    rom to Alex Murphy

    Why are these men being rehired?

    Yes, there is forgiveness in Christ, but to protect the body — one should no longer be allowed to be a pastor or priest after this sort of evil. The Bible’s pretty clear about the sort of character required for an overseer.

  • Daily Reflections with Oswald Chambers [March 5, 2010]

    03/05/2010 5:22:55 AM PST · 4 of 6
    rom to Vision

    Ping for later reading.

  • Liberalism, Atheism, Male Sexual Exclusivity Linked to IQ

    02/26/2010 2:46:19 PM PST · 8 of 64
    rom to nickcarraway

    Professing to be wise, they became fools.

  • Exclusive New Wenzel Strategies/Collins Report poll: conservative identification now up to 46%!

    02/23/2010 6:16:34 AM PST · 3 of 4
    rom to jmaroneps37

    Who are these folks, and what is their track record for polling?

    Have they taken this same poll over the last few years. In particular, I’d be curious to see the results of such a poll from them in 2008. I certainly do not think 46% of Americans are identifying themselves as Conservative.

  • Is Sola Scriptura a Protestant Concoction? A Biblical Defense of Sola Scriptura

    02/23/2010 5:56:17 AM PST · 25 of 54
    rom to Gamecock
    I tend to tread lightly in these particular apologetics wars, because I do look at many in the RC church as Brothers in Christ.

    But I've always thought Galatians 2 summed up a lot of my difficulties with the idea of a Pope. I love that Paul felt like he could rebuke Peter without being dragged to a tribunal of some sort. That Peter had the humility to understand that he was wrong (especially in light of 2 Peter 3:15) and change his ways is inspiring. And the final charge of Paul's, "I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!" Very passionate, and logically sound. I love it.

    11 When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong. 12 Before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. 13 The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray. 14 When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, “You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs? 15 “We who are Jews by birth and not ‘Gentile sinners’ 16 know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified. 17 “If, while we seek to be justified in Christ, it becomes evident that we ourselves are sinners, does that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! 18 If I rebuild what I destroyed, I prove that I am a lawbreaker. 19 For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”
  • Is Sola Scriptura a Protestant Concoction? A Biblical Defense of Sola Scriptura

    02/23/2010 5:48:35 AM PST · 24 of 54
    rom to Gamecock

    Ping for later reading.

  • Demand for Bible Outstripping Supply in China

    02/21/2010 1:23:08 PM PST · 11 of 13
    rom to SeekAndFind

    Awesome. I wonder if China blacklists Bible websites that have the Bible in almost every translation and language? Like

  • Demand for Bible Outstripping Supply in China

    02/21/2010 1:22:00 PM PST · 10 of 13
    rom to ReformedBeckite


  • Tiger: I'll do Buddha

    02/21/2010 12:54:17 PM PST · 40 of 43
    rom to alexander_busek

    LOL. You ask for something nonsensical like satellite imagery, then you get huffy at others. You have no leg to stand on, and indeed you have no basis for any morality — nor do you or Hitchens have any moral authority.

    Christopher Hitchens (like you I’ll take a venture) really wants to convince himself that his life of sin is okay. Deep down I think we all know that it’s wrong.

    BTW — unlike the Mormons, none of the Apostles recanted their faith in Christ and all but John died horrific deaths. But you know that.

  • Tiger: I'll do Buddha

    02/20/2010 12:50:52 PM PST · 35 of 43
    rom to alexander_busek

    Uhhh. Didn’t my next-door neighbor evolve from a single cell organism of some kind? Do you dispute that? Shouldn’t we be able to trace him from his current state -> back through time through a series of ancestors back to a single cell progenitor?

    You are the one who started the whole thing by asking for satellite imagery of the resurrection. That’s absurd. You know when satellite imagery was invented.

    As for the contradictions in the New Testament gospels, they are eyewitness accounts. I don’t think you can get 4 people who saw the same events over a 3 year time span to 100% agree. Which to me makes the idea of the Gospels even more trustworthy as they aren’t robotically identical.

    I think the bigger question is — why are you so angry if Hell is imaginary?

    Because if we believe in fairy tales (Hell being imaginary, and evidently Jesus is just a psycho) — you should just chill out. Because we’re not asking you to hurt yourself or others to put your trust in Christ.

    But I think believing that there is no moral basis for anything we do, other than some vague “it’s good for society” is quite harmful — and has proven harmful wherever Objective Morality is removed from society — which is where Darwinism can lead.

    I hope you find peace some day.

  • Indian state removes book with Jesus holding beer

    02/20/2010 8:55:09 AM PST · 12 of 22
    rom to cajuncow

    Regardless of the fact that no one has a good idea of what Jesus looks like (other than Isaiah 53 — where he is described to be unattractive physically, there’s no physical description of Him in the Bible); what is up with the beer and smokes on a textbook?

  • Tiger: I'll do Buddha

    02/20/2010 8:29:36 AM PST · 32 of 43
    rom to alexander_busek

    Show me a single cell organism evolving into my next door neighbor and you have a deal. (I’m not even hostile to the theory of evolution — but it does meet your definition of an extraordinary claim).

    And besides — anyone who saw a resurrected Christ is going to believe, so they’d never meet your definition of an unbiased observer.

    Just an observation. I’m not trying to justify my point of view of a risen Christ to you. :)

  • Ford, Honda, Hyundai Big Beneficiaries of Toyota's Troubles

    02/17/2010 9:32:03 AM PST · 12 of 24
    rom to Buckeye McFrog

    Oh c’mon — did Obama go back in time and install all these faulty parts and ECUs?

    There are lots of us who have seen this day coming with Toyota. They’ve gotten a free ride from the media for decades! Engine sludge problems, faulty camshafts, rusting out tailgates, etc.

    If you want a quality Japanese product buy a Honda.
    If you want a quality Domestic product buy a Ford.

  • Snowfall Shatters Record, Leaves 180,000 Without Power - (IN DALLAS, TX!!)

    02/12/2010 10:26:30 AM PST · 11 of 27
    rom to pissant

    We got at least 8” last night. My kids were thrilled :)
    We also got a snow day at work. Crazy.

  • For Students at Risk, Early College Proves a Draw

    02/08/2010 6:20:21 AM PST · 10 of 17
    rom to reaganaut1

    I went to college @ 12. Best thing my parents ever did for me. CSULA EEP program.

  • Oprah's Sisters

    02/06/2010 7:58:20 PM PST · 5 of 10
    rom to Notwithstanding

    Wow! New Age Oprah put on a bunch of God fearing women?

    I’m speechless.

    Good for her.

  • Is Toyota Paying Price for Not Supporting Obama?

    02/05/2010 11:03:23 AM PST · 25 of 34
    rom to BobMcCartyWrites

    Yeah, faulty gas pedals and ECMs are the fault of the Obama administration. Right.

    And perhaps that engine sludge problem was just Obama’s plot to get them.

    And perhaps the rusted tailgates. That too was Obama.

    Come on, car enthusiasts have known for some time now that Toyota’s quality hype was just that — hype. If they got the same bad press that the Domestic auto manufacturers got for their recalls...

    If you want a quality product, I suggest looking elsewhere.

  • Chick-fil-A Surpasses 3 Billion in Sales, Marks 42 Years of Growth

    02/05/2010 7:14:48 AM PST · 23 of 50
    rom to whitedog57

    You don’t understand — eating fried fast food is bad for you.

    Eating French Cuisine with lots of butter, cream and duck fat — wrapping their Kobe Beef? That’s good for you.

  • Chick-fil-A Surpasses 3 Billion in Sales, Marks 42 Years of Growth

    02/05/2010 7:12:50 AM PST · 21 of 50
    rom to svcw

    All the ones here in North Texas have a play area. They’re not huge, but they get the job done — and are clean unlike many of the ones at the clown’s establishments :)

  • Chick-fil-A Surpasses 3 Billion in Sales, Marks 42 Years of Growth

    02/05/2010 7:11:14 AM PST · 17 of 50
    rom to truthandlife

    We love Chick-Fil-A! Moving from CA->TX we lost In-N-Out :(, but we gained Chick-Fil-A.

    Their Sweet Tea is soooo good! And so are their chicken sandwiches. And you don’t feel gross after eating there.

    Plus they appear to be a faith based organization (like In-N-Out, though perhaps not as overt). The only downside is that they are closed on Sundays. Sometimes we crave one after church :). But I understand why they do it and they are to be commended for it. And evidently the Lord has seen it fit to reward them for their faithfulness.

  • Average Duration Of Unemployment Hits Brand New Record In January

    02/05/2010 6:59:38 AM PST · 6 of 13
    rom to TigerLikesRooster

    I was unemployed for 9 weeks before I got a job offer. I thought that was an eternity — I’ve never been without a job for more than a week or maybe two. It would end up being 12 weeks by the time I packed up and relocated.

    Most of my former colleagues who still live in CA (I packed up and moved to TX) are still unemployed. That puts them at the 33 week mark :(

  • First-time jobless claims drop less than expected

    01/28/2010 10:49:16 AM PST · 32 of 47
    rom to qwertypie

    I think the point is that they need new ‘experts’. My 5 year old son could tell them the jobs picture is not a good one.

    That’s where the ire comes from — when people are shocked by what is common sense.

  • Unemployed can't reach operators to renew benefits

    01/23/2010 4:21:27 PM PST · 23 of 32
    rom to The Magical Mischief Tour

    I had to file for unemployment for the first time in my life (fortunately I now have a job).

    I filled out my app online (this is CA) — and then got a letter a week later saying that they were investigating the claim as fraud. Somehow they got my SSN wrong. Not just by a little bit — but by a LOT. This should be impossible considering that I entered it into the online *FORM*.

    Called them back, and got dropped a couple of times. Finally, got the right form that I had to fill out, and then had to wait another 2 weeks to get my claim approved.

    These are the people who want to ration our healthcare.

  • Election Symbolism: Coakley's Crack Down on Ladies Garden Clubs

    01/14/2010 9:50:26 PM PST · 27 of 28
    rom to ROTB

    Amazing. Absolutely amazing.


    01/12/2010 8:22:34 PM PST · 29 of 128
    rom to pnh102; All

    Did anyone here actually read the article?

  • Did you donate to SarahPAC? McCain, Graham and Hatch want to thank you...

    01/08/2010 7:01:46 PM PST · 64 of 76
    rom to Bob J

    Are you feeling okay?

    I know after the election I had to step away from the computer. Sometimes it’s best to look for life outside of the keyboard :)

  • Filthy Rags

    01/03/2010 8:48:39 PM PST · 19 of 29
    rom to OneVike

    Thanks for the Ping! I don’t often get a chance to say “Thank You” to your pings as I’ve started a new job, moved to Texas, and am teaching on Galatians once a week. This week’s ping caught my eye since... well, I’m teaching Galatians :)

    Thanks again for your articles, and keep on being un-PC. Without the full force of the Gospel — Jesus just becomes another self-help expert with some snappy stories.

  • Omaha Steaks' response to Nelson boycott

    01/03/2010 6:38:48 AM PST · 36 of 102
    rom to Atomic Vomit

    I knew Omaha Steaks was a shady company. We bought my Father In Law something 4 yrs ago, and they’d send us mailers every week — and then around the time of major holidays they’d send out letters that have the words “your gift is enclosed” which made you think someone sent you a gift card. Instead you found more junk inside.

    I never regretted sending a gift until this one. I am not surprised by their response!

  • Vatican reveals Secret Archives (including letter from Genghis Khan's grandson)

    01/02/2010 6:29:16 AM PST · 26 of 62
    rom to marshmallow

    I heard that they have the epistles of Mary Magdalene, Jesus’ body, and a letter by the Apostle Paul who says, “Suckers!!!!”

    I better put in the /sarc tag :-)

  • Use the Quran to share Christ with Muslim, veteran missionary suggests

    01/01/2010 6:41:53 AM PST · 23 of 27
    rom to ROTB

    Witnessing to Muslims PING!

  • Power to the (Conservative) People

    12/30/2009 5:31:24 PM PST · 15 of 15
    rom to Scanian

    How awesome! God has drawn her to Him. I’m glad she found a conservatve church!

  • American Christianity (a scathing critique)

    12/30/2009 5:15:27 PM PST · 44 of 71
    rom to MarkBsnr

    Can you send me the list of heresies that modern Protestants are embracing? I’m a non-denominational Christian (though of Protestant influence). I am always curious about the heresies that are being embraced.

    Unless you wish to brand all Protestants heretics. In which case I’m not interested. Thanks!

  • American Christianity (a scathing critique)

    12/30/2009 2:44:43 PM PST · 32 of 71
    rom to the long march

    Jesus in Matthew 7:16, “By their fruit you will recognize them.”

    In one of the most chilling statements in the New Testament it ends with:

    “22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

    And yes, hypocrites will face their Maker. However, we have a responsibility to tell them that in love they may not actually be Saved when they think they are because they said a quick prayer without actually putting their trust IN Christ.

    Those who have put their trust in Christ are no longer under judgement, and do not have to worry about the Law. The real question is — have some who profess to have put their trust in Christ actually done it?

    It doesn’t matter to me really ... it matters to them, and loving my neighbor as myself involves being concerned about whether they are deceiving themselves and if they are going to meet their Maker some day and find out that He says, “Depart from me, you evildoer!”

  • American Christianity (a scathing critique)

    12/30/2009 2:32:19 PM PST · 29 of 71
    rom to the long march; CondoleezzaProtege

    To be fair, I don’t think that CondaleezaProtege is meaning to condemn anyone. But Jesus said that “by their fruits you will know them”.

    When teaching on 1 John (a great book that addresses some of these very issues) I used the illustration of a guy I worked with. He claimed to be a devout Christian. Yet every night he would hit the strip clubs, call women the most degrading names, and have casual sex and even participate in orgies.

    His life showed no fruits other than warming a seat at Church every Sunday. I wasn’t a Christian at that point (pretty much atheist) but I could see that he was a hypocrite because we’d call him on it, and he didn’t think it was a big deal. After all, God would forgive him! 1 John is full of warnings against that behavior.

    So much of the American Church is full of this. BUT, remember — so was the early church!!!

    Otherwise Paul wouldn’t have written his epistles (Oh you foolish Galatians, etc.!). Jesus wouldn’t have had to rebuke a few churches in Revelation, etc.

    I think a Christian should always be mindful of the Greatest Commandment. If you are, you will naturally want to do the things that please Him and to discover what things do please Him and which things He hates. And that’s what the scriptures are for.

    Let’s all just try to run hard after Him! Down with Legalism! Up with PLEASING God!

  • Moderate Islam: Western Ally or Western Myth? A Debate

    12/30/2009 1:55:53 PM PST · 31 of 38
    rom to Daveinyork

    Wow. Guess those of us who study these words are plotting to kill you every Sunday. Who knew?

  • Moderate Islam: Western Ally or Western Myth? A Debate

    12/30/2009 1:37:05 PM PST · 29 of 38
    rom to Daveinyork

    No one accuses you of killing Jesus. The Jewish religious leaders did. Jesus asked God to forgive those who killed Him. We are called to do no less.

  • Moderate Islam: Western Ally or Western Myth? A Debate

    12/30/2009 1:34:36 PM PST · 28 of 38
    rom to Daveinyork

    Yes, it does. What do you want them to say? It simply states that the Jewish authorities (The Jews) plotted to kill Jesus. Big deal, it’s a fact. And all of the Apostles were Jews!

    It also calls Jesus “King of the Jews” and says that there is no longer Jew or Gentile in Christ. It also speaks of the Jewish race in glowing terms as I pointed out.

    The Jews DID kill Jesus who was a fellow Jew. And the Romans persecuted the early Christians. All of this is laid out in the book of Acts and Paul’s writings. They didn’t throw Christians to lions for no reason.

    The Jews of the time of the Apostles persecuted the early church and the Jewish church. Stephen was stoned by a group of Jews. But as Stephen was being stoned, he begged God to forgive those who did such a thing towards him. He didn’t beg God to smite the Jewish people. Neither did Jesus, in His famous words of “Father forgive them, for they know not what they do”.

    What you are doing is taking what people use as a convenient excuse for bloodshed (the Jews killed Jesus) and disregard what the New Testament actually says about behavior and theology. If the New Testament wasn’t decent towards Jews it would have been written by the most self-loathing individuals in history.

  • Moderate Islam: Western Ally or Western Myth? A Debate

    12/30/2009 10:44:58 AM PST · 24 of 38
    rom to Daveinyork

    I am not talking about how Christ’s teachings were disregarded, but what the actual teachings of the New Testament are. In particular, I am rejecting the following statement that you made earlier:

    “If Christians have really gone back to Christ’s teachings, then they have skipped back to before the scriptures were written.”

    I reject that statement, as it makes it appear as if the teachings of Christ and the New Testament are anti-Jewish. Which is not true considering that it was Jews of the Jewish sect then called “The Way” who wrote all but two books in the New Testament (Gospel of Luke and Acts of the Apostles).

    As for Islam — at one point it had a golden era, you are right. They contributed richly to the world. However, at the root the teachings of Mohammad and Christ are vastly different. Just look at a few of the quotes from the Koran in the thread above and try to find their equivalent in the New Testament. You won’t find them.

  • Moderate Islam: Western Ally or Western Myth? A Debate

    12/30/2009 10:24:27 AM PST · 22 of 38
    rom to Daveinyork

    I know that, and believe me — I weep for what people have done under the banner of Christ for political or nationalistic aims. Using groups of people as scapegoats for political reasons (especially the Jews!!!) is nothing new. So be that as it may.

    But let me assure you there is nothing in the New Testament that allows for the persecution of the Jews (which is the crux of the discussion between you and I). Read the following from Romans 9 and tell me if this is the sort of sentiment that should make us want to persecute Jews or to gently preach to them?

    “2 I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, those of my own race, 4 the people of Israel. Theirs is the adoption as sons; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. 5 Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.”

    Nothing but glory for the Jews from whom we get the Word of God and the Son of God whom we worship, Himself a descendant of King David and born of a Jewish Mother.

  • Moderate Islam: Western Ally or Western Myth? A Debate

    12/30/2009 9:39:24 AM PST · 20 of 38
    rom to Daveinyork

    What are you talking about? Where does it say in the New Testament to kill the Jews or to persecute them?

    Factually stating that the Jews killed Jesus (himself a Jew, as are all of the authors of the New Testament minus Luke) is not allowed? Paul writes that the Jews have rejected their Messiah. Yet he states that he himself would rather have his salvation taken from him so that the Jews could have their hearts softened.

    You make some radical statements here about the nature of the Scriptures that you cannot back.

  • Moderate Islam: Western Ally or Western Myth? A Debate

    12/30/2009 8:14:55 AM PST · 11 of 38
    rom to Daveinyork

    Woah! It would take Christianity centuries to become tied to a state! The tenets of Christianity are opposed to the very abuses that were tied to it through state intervention. Christians then have gone *back* to Christ’s teachings.

    Islam however has *always* been anti-Jew and rooted in conquest.

  • Vt. judge: Birth mom must give child to ex-partner

    12/29/2009 2:24:05 PM PST · 20 of 42
    rom to massmike

    Given what the Law of Moses says about Homosexuality, I don’t have to wonder what Solomon would have done.

  • Nancy Pelosi: Free Will Trumps Catholic Church's Pro-Life Teachings on Abortion

    12/29/2009 2:15:25 PM PST · 9 of 84
    rom to jacknhoo

    What???? I’m sure Pelosi would be thrilled if someone exercised their free will by robbing her at gunpoint.


  • Help FReeper Moms! (screaming Godson)

    12/29/2009 7:22:26 AM PST · 58 of 77
    rom to netmilsmom

    My wife and I have 3 kids (5 yr, 3 yr, and 10 months old). All 3 kids had problems with my wife’s breastmilk. Our youngest had to be cutoff early (we went to 3 months with her). They had green poop, would get skin problems, etc. My wife tried to cut her diet of dairy, and it definetley helped.

    My suggestion is to have your niece cut back on dairy, and other foods that can be gassy and that she can then continue to breastfeed — espcially with a preemie. If that fails, she may want to try formula.

  • Man who shot Pope John Paul II to be released, wants to be baptised by Pope Benedict

    12/27/2009 7:43:13 AM PST · 13 of 25
    rom to SoftwareEngineer

    Hey, I just noticed that you and I are both Software Engineers and we both moved to Texas as fast as we could :)

    I’m from California originally, moved to Texas this October.

    I notice on your homepage that you love God above all things. In doing so, you fulfill the Greatest Commandment. That’s awesome :)

    One of the things that struck out at me when teaching on Galatians this last year was that in Genesis we read those amazing words where God states, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness”. The Fall happens, and we are separated from God.

    Then Jesus comes back, and shows us what the image of God is like. And we are exhorted in the New Testament to be conformed to His image, His likeness.

    It’s this beautiful picture of redemption — we who were once created in God’s very likeness spiritually have lost that connection, then Jesus comes to show us what God is like (as He is the very image of God - Colossians 1:15) and that we are to put on the new self that is being renewed into the image of its Creator (Colossians 3:10)! So here we see the circuit complete. Man who once was created in the Godhead’s likeness, is slowly being drawn back to that likeness through the sanctification that occurs through Christ.

    But see how Paul writes that it is a process. It didn’t happen immediately. It is *being* renewed. We won’t be fully like Him until we meet Him. So it gives both hope and encouragement when there are setbacks on our spiritual journey back to Him.

    Sorry for the mini-sermon, I got carried away. LOL.

    Anyway, have fun on your adventure running after Him!

  • Clerics Seek Peace Through Humor, Dialogue

    12/27/2009 7:24:54 AM PST · 9 of 13
    rom to samtheman
    Peace on Earth: Read Romans 5. There won't be Peace on Earth between Nations until Jesus' return. However, there is Peace on Earth now between Man (those who have accepted the sacrifice of Christ) and God because of the reconciliation that occurred at the Cross.

    Jesus didn't come to reconcile religions to each other!

    Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us.

    You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

    Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him! For if, when we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.

    And also note Matthew 10:34. Jesus is clear He didn't come to bring Worldly Peace as He is the great dividing line between those who are His and all others.

    “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn “ ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’ “Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.
  • Clerics Seek Peace Through Humor, Dialogue

    12/27/2009 7:18:32 AM PST · 8 of 13
    rom to blackbart.223

    I agree only because Communism, Atheism, Environmentalism and Liberalism are all religions and have killed vast numbers more than Religion.