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  • U.S. Soldiers Posing with the Enemy

    04/19/2012 12:39:35 PM PDT · 13 of 13
    tired_old_conservative to Starman417

    Of course this kind of stuff happens. Speaking from experience, war is an intrinsically dehumanizing thing. That is a significant aspect of its nature. What’s different now, as with all of our quasi-imperial entanglements, is that the public has no significant investment in the cause.

    In WWII, body part trophies and desecration were common knowledge; there are plenty of photographs and records of it. It’s just that the public was totally mobilized and had a whole-hearted embrace of the cause. Our wars now are sideshows in which the majority of the public has no investment. It’s not that things like this are surprising; they just remind people without an investment in it that war is icky (not an infantryman’s description, to be sure).

    But there’s also no way to stop that type of reaction, no matter how much we may want to complain about it. It’s an inevitable consequence of engaging in faraway wars that degenerate into the equivalent of bloody police actions. The right answer for policymakers is to finally get it through their enormously thick skulls that public support for these types of wars always diminishes with time. The public will always turn on these types of wars as they linger on and on.

    There’s only so much you can do with someone else’s country. Figure out what that is, be ruthlessly realistic to yourself about it, and figure out one or two very specific, achievable things you intend to accomplish. Do that and leave. And if you can’t think of one or two very specific, achievable things, that’s reality telling you to not get involved in the first place.

  • Kansas Board Denies Colonel Lakin License to Practice

    02/07/2012 9:58:31 PM PST · 53 of 54
    tired_old_conservative to devattel
    Plerase note that at no time have I suggested anyone regard LTC Lakin with contempt and rough him up.

    In terms of military valor and service, Colonel Roberts is the better of either of us. Your belittling of him based on your own personal prejudices speaks very poorly of you.

  • Kansas Board Denies Colonel Lakin License to Practice

    02/07/2012 7:22:47 PM PST · 51 of 54
    tired_old_conservative to devattel
    You do realize that the commanding officer who brought Lakin up on charges was a Congressional Medal of Honor winner? Do you believe Colonel Roberts has no understanding of or appreciation for the Oath of a Military Officer?

    I don't know if you were around when this was discussed as it happened. But current and ex-military took no pleasure in Lakin’s predicament. We generally felt sorry for his family. But to virtually a man it was understood that his oath doesn't allow him to do what you claim and that he must face the consequences accordingly. Said consequences were clear and accurately predicted by those with legal experience. Military officers adjudicated and applied them in accordance with proper statutory authority.

  • Kansas Board Denies Colonel Lakin License to Practice

    02/07/2012 5:11:36 PM PST · 48 of 54
    tired_old_conservative to devattel
    No chip on my shoulder at all. I served all my officers very honorably, even visited the widow of one who died in the aforementioned combat to pass on a final thought from her husband. As for current superiors, I haven't had one in quite some time as I run my own practice.

    Your tone was clearly and deliberately patronizing to enlisted personnel, who are not only brave, selfless and dedicated, but who understand quite well the obligations incumbent upon all members of the armed forces. Officers worthy of their position understand that.

    As for your statement about questioning those who have not proved themselves legally authorized to command, Lakin’s particular interpretation of that was judged by his fellow military officers. They found it wanting,

  • Kansas Board Denies Colonel Lakin License to Practice

    02/07/2012 11:50:26 AM PST · 45 of 54
    tired_old_conservative to devattel; Drew68
    “You sound like you are enlisted, if you are serving your country at all.

    Clearly you do not understand the Officer’s Oath, and you do not understand this case, nor have been following it enough to understand the details.”

    Excuse me.

    “You sound like you are enlisted...”

    And how, pray tell, are we ignorant peasants who do the vast majority of the bleeding for our country supposed to sound? Do we use “ain't” and “aw, shucks” and scratch our privates as we chew on a blade of grass while pulling up our ill-fitting, unstylish trousers?

    As an enlisted person in my youth, who fought for his country, has permanent injuries to show for it, and took over directing an action from dead officers, all I can say is cram it where the sun don't shine.

    Why don't you tend to worshiping your little Vattel idol and drop any pretense that someone who would utter the ignorant sentence cited above has any insight into anything to do with either honor or the military?

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/05/2012 2:42:16 PM PST · 677 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to ml/nj
    “Let me guess: You're a lawyer?”

    I told you that. No guesswork was required.

    “I know it because you are full of sh*t.”

    I attempted a civil explanation of a legal result that by your own admission you do not understand. You response clarifies that you have no actual desire to understand.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/05/2012 11:35:47 AM PST · 668 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to ml/nj
    “Really? I don't know precisely what evidence she presented but any court that wouldn't accept someone like Mara Zebest as an expert on Adobe Software needs to be dissolved.

    Some things are just obvious when presented too, whether they are presented by someone who has devoted his life to something, or by his secretary. So when the secretary shows enlargements of characters that were all supposed to have been produced by the same typewriter key that obviously were not, it seems absurd to me to reject out of hand what the secretary has shown.”

    This is a common fallacy. Many people may have extensive experience in certain areas. That does not make them an expert for all questions. I've gotten much more “expertise” in this question myself late in my career as fate wound up steering me into certain aspects of safety and environmental law defending businesses.

    Liberal environmental groups routinely do exactly what Orly is doing. It's a mistake that comes in either of two primary flavors: (1) representing run-of-the-mill people with axes to grind as “experts,” and (2) finding sympathetic people with meaningful backgrounds in one field who they lure over the line into another field. I have found they tend to do this for two reasons as well. First, not being versed in technical matters, they tend to be gullible. That is, it's not so much deliberate misrepresentation (although you occasionally get that)as that they honestly don't know the diffference. Second, they believe so wholeheartedly in their cause they can't objectively evaluate the case they are trying to make.

    You would think they'd learn (and again, a few do), but when one believes so completely in a cause, I've observed it continues to cloud their augment. They respond exactly as Orly does. To them, it's not that they prepared a poor case and presented it poorly. It's that I and the uncaring businesses I represent are evil, corrupt Republican SOBs, the judges have all been bought off, etc.

    Sound familiar? It's not that attorneys like me deliberately want to mock your beliefs. It's just that we've seen this pattern so many times, from both sides. I've been subjected to all the insults by the other side, and I've had to drop clients who have the same failing. They can't give up their belief about what the facts and the law ought to be instead of facing what they are. Thus, there's nothing I can do for them, and I'm not just going to take their money for nothing.

    Given her poor skills, her constant lack of professionalism in court, and the hopeless nature of the briefs she writes, I find Orly unethical in the extreme, particularly in the way she solicits money from the gullible on a pipe dream. Far from being “Lady Liberty” she is the very worst type of lawyer—an incompetent ambulance chaser. And if that offends you, I'm sorry, but every ambulance chaser has a line of BS about how nobly they are serving some cause.

    In this case, Mara Zebest is not a forensic digital image analyst. The act of scanning a document into a PDF introduces digital alterations into it, so she is certainly correct that the image has digital alterations. That's a point any novice computer user could verify. But those alterations don't mean either the image or the underlying document are forgeries. She does nothing to demonstrate that they are, because, not being a forensic digital image or document analysts, she presumably doesn't know how they go about doing that. Her experience with Adobe is irrelevant to the court. In particular, her conclusion that she believes the certificate image in question was created on Photoshop means nothing. Her “belief” is irrelevant given that the PDF data identifies the actual program used to create the PDF, and it ain't Adobe. And that Obama released a copy of the document that the state of Hawaii stands behind. The full faith and credit clause trumps the idle musings of an Adobe professional straying well outside her field of expertise.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/04/2012 10:10:47 PM PST · 621 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to tablelamp
    “The entire legal community can’t be wrong while a few non-lawyers have it right. The answer is right in front of you. It’s the simple answer, not the complicated, contorted arguments of Taitz, Apuzzo and Donogrio. The Chief Justice would not have sworn in someone who is not eligible.

    Wong Kim Ark, Ankeny and Malihi decisions are unbeatable. It’s time to accept the courts have decided based on the correct interpretation of the Constitution and the Law. The decision in Wong points to the 14th amendment: there are only two kinds of citizen in the US - natural-born and naturalized. A person who is born here is a natural-born citizen and eligible to be President. Simple. Straight-forward. Direct. No contorted explanations meant to exclude people who might not have been considered citizens before the 14th amendment. No analysis of pdf’s and halos or stamp, stamp, stamp. No cherry-picking of books, articles, or dissenting side of SC opinions.

    Barack Obama is a natural born citizen because he was born in Honolulu on Aug 4, 1961. Stipulated to by the plaintiffs in Georgia. It’s time to accept he’s eligible to be the President, that he IS the President. He might even get re-elected. Instead of spending any more energy on incorrect legal interpretations that fail every time, it’s probably time to support Obama’s opponent in the election and get him out of the White House the old-fashioned way: beat him at the ballot box.”

    Alas, to the conspiratorial mindset, any and all things are possible. It's fixation is not on objective assessment, but on what it psychologically needs to be true; any intrusion by reality is dismissed as biased, misinformed, sinister, etc. It's a very old pattern in human history. At least this one isn't actually spilling blood, even if it is doing some damage to the conservative cause.

    But you're solution is dead on. If people want Obama out of the White House, they need to stop bedwetting and cringing from make believe monsters and volunteer to work their precinct to get the vote out for the Republican nominee in November. That's the actual Constitutional option.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/04/2012 9:55:31 PM PST · 615 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to Lurking Libertarian
    “As I said above, “the law” is not what people on an internet forum say it is; the law is— by definition— what the courts say it is. No court will ever hold that someone born in the United States to parents lawfully here (whether as citizens or legal aliens) is not a natural born citizen unless their parents were foreign diplomats. You can take that to the bank.”

    That is correct.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/04/2012 9:42:21 PM PST · 612 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to ml/nj
    “And as for Orly's expert witnesses, I'm wondering who challenged their expertise.”

    No one has to challenge their expertise. The burden to establish that they qualify as experts lies with the attorney calling them. The standards by which that burden is met are typically jurisdiction-specific. In this case, Orly made no attempt to establish that her witnesses were experts. Based on past performance, I would suspect that is because she doesn't understand that she has to. In any event, having dealt with this issue numerous times myself, I can say it is unlikely any court would accept the experience of the witnesses proffered as meeting an expert standard.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 10:11:28 PM PST · 398 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to Smokeyblue

    No one said anything about a living, breathing Constitution.

    Imbibe: to receive into the mind and retain (imbibe moral principles)

    If you did not imbibe a love for this country and its principles while growing up, I feel sorry for you. But it would explain some things on this thread.

    Still hard to top someone begging us to be terrified of his daughter, though.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 9:40:06 PM PST · 385 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to Smokeyblue
    If you're surrounded by people who would vote for someone who promised to send half of America's assets to another country, I suppose that's your problem. But you should work on developing a wider range of associates.

    And yeah, the Founding Father's weren't children. They knew all kinds of idiots would run for office. That's why they created contending centers of power within the government. But they also were well aware that if people lost all common sense, no set of rules would save them.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 9:25:55 PM PST · 378 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to Dane Holden
    Well, I'm not retired yet, but I've been contemplating it more after a huge spate of work the last six months.

    I respect your feelings on this matter, but the reason more lawyers don't take it up is because it doesn't really offer any opportunities for success. The issue of standing is all but insurmountable in most cases. As long as Hawaii says Obama was born there, the full faith and credit clause requires other states to accept that. And the interpretation of law as cribbed by the Georgia judge from Arkeny is accepted as a given in the profession. You simply aren't going to find many, if any, judges willing to entertain the two-citizen parent theory. And there's no way the Supreme Court will buy it.

    Whatever one may personally believe, those are the cards dealt. Believe me, if this case was viable, there would be a number of high profile attorneys seeking fame from it. That there aren't says it all.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 9:15:45 PM PST · 376 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to this is my country
    “This sucks, bigtime.

    Now what happens to the petition that Orly Taitz was granted by Judge Malihi to supoena records from Hawaii?”

    There is no such thing. It was a figment of Orly's imagination. She doesn't understand legal process.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 9:12:57 PM PST · 373 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to Greenperson

    It’s no enough to ask the lawyer if he/she thinks her witnesses are experts. There is a specific legal process for establishing expertise in each jurisdiction, generally strengthened in the last thirty years due to valid conservative concerns about “junk science.”

    It’s obvious from their resumes the witnesses offered by Orly would not have met the required standard.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 9:07:25 PM PST · 371 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to PA-RIVER
    “Let me repeat.

    My daughter has an American BC and has foreign citizenship at birth. She is legally entitled to have two passports, serve in a foreign military, and then run for president of the United States.

    My daughter can stand in front of the American people and promise to send half of our assets to another country if elected while waving her foreign passport on election day, and be qualified as a natural born citizen in the USA.”

    So what?

    If your daughter grows up here and imbibes a love for this country, she will have the chance to communicate that to voters and act upon those beliefs, if elected. What's wrong with that?

    If she chooses to promise to send half of America's assets to another country, she would be a nitwit and her chance of winning the election nil. So your point is moot.

    Eligible and electable are two different things. The first is an artifact of birth. The second is a question of convictions that must be successfully demonstrated to at least half the people.

    I'm not frightened of your daughter, and I wish her well.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 6:35:25 PM PST · 304 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to Smokeyblue

    “I’m embarrassed for them. Uphold the Constitution. Sure.”

    They have. And comparing writings, it’s obvious they respect the Constitution far more than you.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 6:28:14 PM PST · 299 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to Smokeyblue

    Four words for you: Take a Deep Breath.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 6:25:32 PM PST · 295 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to freepersup

    “Uh... you just made a significant point. See if you can figure out what point you just made in your post. CLUE: it’s not the point you were trying to make.”

    It’s a in joke to one of the rational folks on this issue who is aware of Orly’s inability to actually frame or state a valid legal case for anything.

    One can legitimately lose a case when the opposition fails to show up. You simply have to demonstrate breathtaking incompetence and foolishness in presenting your side.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 6:14:49 PM PST · 287 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to Smokeyblue
    Why are so many “so-called” conservatives so hostile to their own country? We do not have a dictator, and he will leave office in January of 2013 if enough malcontents get off their dead rears and actually work for a change.

    No one’s happy that a candidate doesn't have to prove his eligibility. The sane world simply recognizes that he has proven it. You can either lapse into self-pitying delusion about that, or you can work to defeat him in an actual election.

    It's not a test of his character. It's a test of ours.

  • Georgia Judge Rules Against Plaintiffs: Attorney Mark Hatfield "taking it up on appeal"

    02/03/2012 6:07:02 PM PST · 19 of 58
    tired_old_conservative to arthurus
    “I suspect the judge, after he agreed to hear the case and did not just throw it out received an offer he couldn’t refuse.”

    I suspect it's much simpler: the judge can read actually read.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 6:03:21 PM PST · 279 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to El Sordo

    And let me just note, for the record, that I have never lost a case where the opposition failed to show up. That takes a very special level of talent.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 5:53:37 PM PST · 276 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to El Sordo

    Touche.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 5:52:24 PM PST · 273 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to freepersup
    “Eh- then ya’ takes your chances.”

    Ya’ takes your chances every time ya’ decide to get out of bed. I just prefer to see things as they are.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 5:37:53 PM PST · 267 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to freepersup

    “Are you serious?”

    Yep. Because decades of legal experience make the answer obvious, and every single court case to date has unfolded exactly as I said it would, thereby validating said experience and judgment against actual external reality (i.e., not the reality residing in my own head).

    Wanting something to be true, no matter how badly, doesn’t make it a serious position.

  • Georgia Judge Rules Against Plaintiffs: Attorney Mark Hatfield "taking it up on appeal"

    02/03/2012 5:30:06 PM PST · 9 of 58
    tired_old_conservative to RIghtwardHo

    “Ditto. Crap case in a meaningless ALJ Court. If ya can’t win in an ALJ Court when the other side doesn’t show up ... well . . .”

    Well said.

  • Georgia Judge Rules Against Plaintiffs: Attorney Mark Hatfield "taking it up on appeal"

    02/03/2012 5:28:39 PM PST · 8 of 58
    tired_old_conservative to Mr Rogers

    This appeal’s going nowhere anyway.

    I feel sorry for anyone who has actually attached emotional importance to this in the false belief it ever had the slightest promise of achieving anything. It has less of a chance than that proverbial snow ball in the unholy place.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 5:24:12 PM PST · 259 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to freepersup; Drew68
    He's not gloating. He's simply stating a fact, something this whole circus has long needed to understand.

    I said ages ago that no court in the land would recognize Orly's witnesses as experts because, by the law of what constitutes expert testimony, they are obvious jokes.

    I said ages ago that the decision rendered in Arkeny (the Indiana case) was obvious on its face and would be the decision reached by any court asked.

    Clinging to fantasy's that have zero chance of ever being realized does neither the individual or conservatism any good. If you want Obama out of office, stop whining and start working for your local Republican organization to get out the vote. It's what I do.

    You are now free to shriek “Obot!” and “Traitor!”

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 5:02:44 PM PST · 251 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to presently no screen name

    “So they are saying all citizens born in the US are natural born citizens completely opposite of what the Constitution says.”

    How can that be the opposite of what the Constitution says when the Constitution contains no definition of natural born citizen?

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 4:54:52 PM PST · 245 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to Mr Rogers

    Beyond a certain point, denial never stops. There is always another recourse available in fantasy land.

  • Judge Malihi Rules Against Plaintiffs: Says Obama Born In Hawaii Therefore Natural Born Citizen

    02/03/2012 4:52:03 PM PST · 240 of 726
    tired_old_conservative to Seizethecarp

    “Yes, Ankeny’s interpretaion of WKA that you prefer won the day with Malihi, but success of this interpretation of WKA is not certain to be affirmed ultimately by SCOTUS, IMO.”

    It’s about as certain as anything human gets.

  • OBAMA ELIGIBILITY TRIAL....BLOW BY BLOW

    01/27/2012 2:58:38 PM PST · 102 of 116
    tired_old_conservative to faucetman
    “Obama, by way of government in Hawaii, have made it very difficult to examine Obama’s original BC. Orly Taitz has been granted discovery in another case, but Hawaiian officials are refusing to allow her access. They are stonewalling. The case the other day in Georgia is the first case being heard “on the merits”. Obama’s forged birth certificate was entered into evidence and experts testified that it was a forgery. Neither Obama nor his lawyers would participate in this case. In fact Obama defied a subpoena to appear.

    In the following motion, Orly is asking the judge to exert authority on the officials in Hawaii to allow, require access to Obama’s original BC as is the case in Hawaiian law. This could finally force the issue and get Obama’s ORIGINAL BC (if one exists) into Georgia court for examination. The worm is turning.”

    Sorry, but reality is already intruding again. The judge's order today is as follows:

    ” Order: The parties may file any post hearing pleadings by Wednesday, February 1, 2012. The Court will issue a recommendation to the Secretary of State shortly thereafter.

    The Court has reviewed the motion by Plaintiffs, Farrar, Lax, Judy, Malaren, and Roth, to direct and/or request the Court in Hawaii to order the release of certain Hawaii documents to the Plaintiffs. This Court lacks jurisdiction or authority to direct or request documents from Hawaii. Plaintiffs’ motion is denied.

    SO ORDERED, this the 27th day of January, 2012.”

    It is simply a fact that the “subpoenas” in question were incorrectly used by Orly and place no obligation upon Obama, Hawaii, Arpaio, etc. It is simply a fact that the Georgia Court in question has no authority to compel documents from Hawaii.

    Don't expect this to be the magic moment. All the Democrat attorney has to do is produce a legal Hawaii document attesting to Obama’s birth. A COLB will suffice. He can provide it to the Court at any time. The full faith and credit clause will do the rest, since the “experts” claiming fraud do not meet any legal standard of expertise.

  • Judge rules on Obama's Social Security Number [Tells attorney: 'Today is not your lucky day']

    08/31/2011 2:42:21 PM PDT · 117 of 153
    tired_old_conservative to wintertime

    “If our experiment in self-government survives the communists embedded here in Free Republic and every other cultural institution of significance, Orly will be know as a great and brave heroine.”

    Our noble experiment in self government will survive the fevered fantasies of your imagination. Orly will have nothing to do with it. She will serve as a source of comedy for the time being, then be quickly forgotten.

  • Judge rules on Obama's Social Security Number [Tells attorney: 'Today is not your lucky day']

    08/31/2011 2:38:50 PM PDT · 116 of 153
    tired_old_conservative to El Sordo
    It seems like the fire is going out of their bellies. There seems to be a pro forma quality to the insults and tirades these days.
  • Judge rules on Obama's Social Security Number [Tells attorney: 'Today is not your lucky day']

    08/31/2011 2:36:48 PM PDT · 115 of 153
    tired_old_conservative to Squeeky
    “Actually, Dr. Taitz is a very good lawyer who is doing a wonderful job of keeping this issue alive. Who else is putting any pressure at all on Obama to cough up his records and stuff??? Every time she loses IN COURT, she wins something in the COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION, which is where it really matters. I have told the Obotski this about a million times and they still don’t get it. I hope people here are quicker learners.”

    If that makes you feel better, go ahead and believe it I guess. But it's nonsense.

  • Judge rules on Obama's Social Security Number [Tells attorney: 'Today is not your lucky day']

    08/31/2011 2:34:39 PM PDT · 114 of 153
    tired_old_conservative to El Sordo
    I don't know about dentistry, but I do actually speak four languages. So maybe I could be an interpreter for malpractice lawsuits against Orly.
  • Judge rules on Obama's Social Security Number [Tells attorney: 'Today is not your lucky day']

    08/31/2011 2:31:41 PM PDT · 113 of 153
    tired_old_conservative to Brown Deer; El Sordo

    Thank you.

    That was a very good laugh. Almost made me fizz up my soda.

  • Judge rules on Obama's Social Security Number [Tells attorney: 'Today is not your lucky day']

    08/31/2011 12:46:03 PM PDT · 105 of 153
    tired_old_conservative to El Sordo

    “That gets in the way of a good rant.”

    Yep. At this point, this stuff is so obviously silly and sad that it boggles the mind.

  • Judge rules on Obama's Social Security Number [Tells attorney: 'Today is not your lucky day']

    08/31/2011 12:39:53 PM PDT · 104 of 153
    tired_old_conservative to PAR35

    well, I don’t know how good a dentist she is, but she simply has to be a better dentist than a lawyer, right? Otherwise, the records of her practice would be littered with dead patients.

  • Court tells Hawaii officials to explain Obama's birth records

    08/11/2011 11:50:42 AM PDT · 123 of 127
    tired_old_conservative to curiosity
    It's always unfortunate to have a court's time wasted. As you note, there are people with actual cases that need attending. Unfortunately, it's hard to set thresholds for “get the heck out of here” that don't in practice become subject to whim and abuse. All processes, legal or otherwise, struggle with this issue, basically the tyranny of the lowest common denominator.

    That said, Orly's conduct is simply unbelievable. It's not only incompetent; it's staggeringly unprofessional. She basically has tantrums in court. Or verbally in her filings. Anyone who thinks that kind of behavior is doing anything to advance their cause is simply deluded.

    The most appropriate way to handle that is more use of sanctions and penalties from the stat bar. The fact that we haven't seen more of that is probably a testament to the fact that she was seen as some freak of nature that would surely just fade out. And, to be fair, she has faded out in terms of meaningful legal issues. It's all just a show for the rubes now. That and wall-to-wall tantrums.

  • 'I created Obama's certification of birth'

    08/10/2011 6:03:23 PM PDT · 199 of 247
    tired_old_conservative to Brown Deer
    No one has ever disputed his association with Florida State. Indeed, it was explicitly acknowledged some time ago when he was “outed.”

    It has never been a subject of discussion because neither that association nor his degrees involve the analytical expertise (i.e. the credentials) he anonymously claimed to have when evaluating the Intenet image. There is nothing in his background that demonstrates such expertise, and his analyses are rife with amateur errors. He is a fraud who was banned from Free Republic.

  • 'I created Obama's certification of birth'

    08/10/2011 10:35:25 AM PDT · 152 of 247
    tired_old_conservative to DiogenesLamp

    “You aren’t getting near my wallet.”

    Rest assured. I have no need at all need to get near your wallet.

  • Critic denied access to Obama's original birth certificate

    08/10/2011 10:02:37 AM PDT · 70 of 78
    tired_old_conservative to DiogenesLamp
    “Competence should not be an issue of concern regarding facts.”

    So is this what conservatism has degenerated into? “Competence should not be an issue.” That's the primary motivating theme of the welfare state. It certainly is antithetical to any concept of good engineering that I understand.

    One’s competence is a measure of one’s ability to correctly marshal the facts. Legal issue often are complex. The idea of Solomon-like wisdom cutting to the core is for amateurs, much like the old admonition that strategy is for amateurs—generals do logistics.

    A general’s mastery of strategy is demonstrated by his ability to do the immense process work of getting the right people in the right place at the right time with the right tools. Likewise, a lawyer's mastery of the facts is demonstrated by his ability to do the process work of compiling facts into a cause-and-effect sequence in compliance with the law. Poorly thought out briefs coupled with righteous indignation do not demonstrate a mastery of anything. Rather, they demonstrate that one has not even mastered oneself. That generally makes for a poor advocate, regardless of the cause.

    I work with engineers a lot. I've been absent from this board for a while because I've been inundated with corporate work from a subspeciality happenstance sent my way. I pioneered a legal basis for squirming out from under one particularly stupid set of EPA dictates. I didn't do that by standing up in court, complaining about the rules, and demanding that everyone simply recognize my idea of the facts as correct. I demonstrated how the facts supported my interpretation with painstakingly detailed competence.

    The engineers I worked with to do that are good fellows. They did not suffer fools, and had no respect for anyone in any profession who can't think analytically to put their best foot forward. That describes Orly to a T.

  • Critic denied access to Obama's original birth certificate

    08/10/2011 9:43:30 AM PDT · 69 of 78
    tired_old_conservative to DiogenesLamp

    You’re point wasn’t metaphorical. It was a factually incorrect use of history, ill thought out, and ultimately wrong. It didn’t support the point you were trying to make, which, unfortunately is quite common on these threads.

    And by all means, continue to spew about the fraud of the “Precedent.” But you have established precedent for the quality of your arguments.

  • 'I created Obama's certification of birth'

    08/10/2011 1:23:40 AM PDT · 95 of 247
    tired_old_conservative to Brown Deer

    “Really? How so dumbo?”

    Not only were his conclusions obviously wrong, but he didn’t even understand the basic terminology he was using.

  • 'I created Obama's certification of birth'

    08/10/2011 1:22:27 AM PDT · 94 of 247
    tired_old_conservative to Brown Deer
    “So? they weren’t meant to.
    No one here is required to demonstrate anything to a nobody like you.”

    You'll forgive me for assuming that when you send me links, they somehow relate to the point of the thread. And if you don't feel like you have to demonstrate anything to me, then by all means don't send me your pointless links.

  • Critic denied access to Obama's original birth certificate

    08/10/2011 12:12:15 AM PDT · 60 of 78
    tired_old_conservative to jeffo
    “Nice try, but because she has been “learning as she goes” does not mean that her cause is not just, and attacking the messemger is close to the last refuge of the scoundrel...”

    No. Having gross incompetence pointed out is what real attorneys expect every time they step into a court. That's why they make an effort to know what they are doing. It avoids humiliating themselves in the real world, where defenses like “I'm learning as I go along” offered by presumed professionals are treated with the contempt they deserve.

    As an attorney, the justness of your cause takes back seat to your own competence in presenting it. We don't get graded on the curve, a welfare approach real conservatives are supposed to disdain. To the extent our cause is just and we represent it incompetently, we have done it a disservice.

  • 'I created Obama's certification of birth'

    08/10/2011 12:03:48 AM PDT · 86 of 247
    tired_old_conservative to PA-RIVER

    If you want to believe obvious frauds because they tell you ridiculous things you want to hear, that’s your business. Do try to steer clear of your wallet while you’re doing that, though.

  • 'I created Obama's certification of birth'

    08/10/2011 12:00:35 AM PDT · 85 of 247
    tired_old_conservative to woofie
    “He earned a Ph.D. in Instructional Systems from Florida State University in 1978 and a masters degree in Educational Research and Psychology from Florida State in 1972.”

    None of which provide expertise in the areas claimed.

    “Polland’s expertise is in computer graphics and the use of computer peripherals, such as printers and scanners to input digital images.”

    Pollard's lame claim. Basically, it means he's used printers and scanners. Welcome to the club and so what? He's by no means an expert on them, let alone a forensic document examiner. He had his rear handed to him when he tried to go up against one.

  • 'I created Obama's certification of birth'

    08/09/2011 11:54:25 PM PDT · 84 of 247
    tired_old_conservative to Brown Deer

    So. None of the links demonstrate any expertise in the areas claimed.