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Blacks, per capita, committ more crime than whites. Hence, there will be more black criminals, especially in Clayton County.

Blacks are also targetted by the police, kept down in the workforce and more resort to low level crime to supplement legal income. Blacks are not inherently more criminal. The system works against them. If whites were profiled and targetted as blacks are you'd see a proportionally higher amount of whites in prison labour groups.

There is a racist monument on the SC Statehouse grounds. It has an image of Jesse Jackson on it. Let me tell you that Jesse's history in this state is not very honorable. His earlier shakedown methods, far less sophisticated than the ones he applies now, held down whitey more than you could know.

What concerns me most about Jackson is his antisemitism. He also believes that public schools should teach the religious myth of creation as the explanation of the origin of man. These are very dangerous beliefs.

BTW, if the NAACP was so intent on removing the flag, where were they when David Beasley (R) proposed just such a thing during his tenure? Right, I forgot - he wasn't a Democrat, and it wasn't an election year, eh?

What difference does it make? The confederate flag represents no existing state or nation, and does not belong on any statehouse.

Oh yes, all blacks are victims, discriminated against because of "the man". Would you please get over that.

Not all. Only those who will allow themselves to be oppressed.

You mean to tell me that blacks living in the Cascade area, Lithonia, or within any wealthy predominately white residential area are discriminated against? If they were, they'd all be living in slums, and no I don't see that in the south. In the north, that is more of reality. However, I don't think that it has anything to do with racism, as blacks in the south has nothing to do with racism. As I told you, it is the state of the black family in this day and time, coupled with a victim mentality that is perpetuated by the NAACP and cronies.

Blacks have been victimized. This is the historical and current reality. I see prison labour crews working in my neighbourhood. Over 90% of the people on these labour crews are black. It's a form of legal slavery.

If you wish to live in Toronto, I'm sure that you'd find plenty of insanely liberal people like yourself.

I grew up there. I know many insane liberal people there. It's a much more liberal place, a much better place to live (in terms of quality of life). The money I am making here in the States isn't worth the poor quality of life.

I don't know if you're a Canadian citizen. However, if you are and miss Canada, what's keeping you here? You seem to complain about this place.

I am here for the money and outta here as soon as my contractual obligations are done.

"Farrakhan who once called Hitler a great man-1984" That is a lie and you people know it,

What I do know that is NOT a lie is that his most admired politician in America is Pat Buchanan. I have him saying this on tape from a live interview on CNN in 1996. At this time he was considering a run for president in 2000 as a Republican. I guess the cancer ended his plans for that.

Now that Islam's best-known representative is Osama bin Laden, however, it's no easy task to explain that the essence of Islam is peace and submission to God's will.

Osama Bin Laden is the best known representative of religious conservatism in general. Remember that Osama does not represent all Muslims, only the most fanatical Muslim fundamentalists. Liberal and moderate Muslims think he's a freak.

Maybe he's on vacation- he needs one! Cuba has some great resorts. Or maybe he's there to promote his brand of eco-capitalism. Cuba needs to become democratic. For now they could use more capitalism.. Socialist regimes are the worst polluters and human rights violators. Go Green! Nader 04.

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Excuse me, liberal, but your opinion is about as unfounded as they come.

Oh, yes, fifty years behind in the times. What kind of liberal, hate, guilt-filled whitey education did you receive? Was it the liberal media that put those unfounded and stereotypical thoughts in your mind? Or, perhaps it is the disease of dimentia that most liberals suffer from.

I got a BA in psychology at York U, for what it's worth. I don't feel guilt. I never hurt a black person. My ideas come from personal experience.

Anyway, your point doesn't even make sense. Here's why. First of all, in any state, in any place, where you have two groups that represent a large chunk of the population, you are going to have problems. Diverse societies have always had more problems than uniform societies.

Not so.. I grew up in Toronto, Ontario (Canada). A very diverse city. Less than 50% caucasian. Most Canadians see diversity as a virtue. They all get along fine.

That is, more friction and chaos. Look around the world from the Balkans to South Africa to the Middle East, it is there.

Where racist, ignorant people refuse to get along, sure..

As far as I can tell, Georgia does quite well, considering the fact that our minority population is about a third of the state. Oh, you probably long to be like a cultured Vermont, a state that has less than a five percent minority population. Perhaps, a Massachusetts is your style, a much lower minority population. Hey, remember the Boston Bus riots. However, that's inevitable when you put two groups into situations like that.

I am thinking of moving to Toronto, where I can be one of the minority and still get along with my neighbours.

There is great disparity in wage and employment, racial profiling, ghetto-ization.

This "disparity", if it exists, is the result of the trouble in the black family. That is, 70% of black children being born and raised out of wedlock. They're not getting the home structure that they need to succeed in school, not to mention have a middle class lifestyle.

Their parents are discriminated against. They are kept in low wage jobs. They have the poorest educations. They are profiled and harassed by the police. It's not easy being black in the South.

Well......not all are redneck racists as you stereotypically and, if I may say, prejudicially, conceive.

I'll have you know that I am a redneck.

First of all, you've probably never been to Forsyth County, because if you had, you would realize that your assessment of the county is completely flawed.

Yes, there are a few poor people living in Forsyth, but there are very few. However, they sure aren't black. The few blacks that I've seen in Forsyth live in the southern part of the county, and they are well to do.

They're motivated and hard working, fortunate to be living in such a wealthy county.

Secondly, the few poor whites are mostly concentrated in the rural northern section of the county. However, does being poor make one trash? In your book it does.

Nope. White trash is a state of mind. A person can be wealthy and still lack class.

Right. You can't legislate how people think, period. Every legislative action to remove confederate symbols creates an equal if not greater reaction. Removing the confederate symbol from the flag of Georgia has made those opposed to it, for whatever reasons, appear as racist right-wing rednecks in the public eye. And yes, most people who were upset about the removal of the symbol are racist right-wing rednecks.

Again, more of your indoctrinated dribble that is being spewed out of your brain and onto the screen, via a keyboard. I bet you feel that you came up with that one all by yourself. Didn't you? I bet you feel so progressive, and, by golly, better and more educated than those "racist rednecks" who like Confederate Heritage.

I am more educated than most of the racist rednecks around me *shrug*. And if being racist makes one less good, then I am better *shrug*..

Is that your thinking? If that is the case, of which it appears, then you are not a practicer of what your ideologymen proclaim. Tolerance? Yeah right.

I tolerate racism.. I have to. Most people are racist to some degree. But that doesn't make racism right.

Revisionism, Bigotry and Prejudice are what you appear to like.

Nahh.. I am liberal :-)

Henry County is 10 X nicer than Clayton, and no, it's not because Henry is 83% white and Clayton is only 37% white. It's because the aesthetics, litter, housing, yards, businesses, etc. are much nicer in Henry than in Clayton, though the Lake Spivey area of Jonesboro, not to mention is Mt. Zion area of Morrow, is nice.

Henry County is much less developed, the way rural Georgia is pictured in the tourism brochures. It looks the way Clayton did about 20 years ago. Jonesboro is the a-hole of the South. Yes, Spivey is nice, if you have a few million dollars to live there. Too bad there's no public access. As for Morrow at Mt. Zion, it's a horrible area, having gone ghetto in the past 15 years. I shop at the Publix at Mt. Zion and Mt. Zion.. the best thing about that area is that they have some sidewalks. Oh, and Clayton Communty College has a beautiful campus. Overall this part of the country is no place to live. The pollution is horrible. Crime is rampant. Government and the police are corrupt. Eveything that is should be good is bad. Public services are underfunded and understaffed. The schools are the pits. Etc., Etc., And yet many of the local residents believe there's no finer place to live in the country.

Furthermore, Forsyth is loaded with beautiful large homes.

Class is divided along colour lines - for the most part.

Clayton has a lot of dumpy areas. Forsyth doesn't.

Tell me about it. I live in the ghetto. Bleah. Thank God it's a temporary living arrangement. I moved here nearby the corner of Tara and O'Hara roads expecting to be in the land of Gone With the Wind. Instead I found the dark underbelly of the American dream. Whorehouses and gas stations on nearly every corner.. I have to step over syringes and condoms on my way to the store. Me and my wife get propostioned when we go out during the night. bleah bleah bleah. Conservative hell.

Perhaps you would choose to follow abe's ideas on what should be done with blacks to get rid of slavery. Colonization was thrown around a couple of times and if the ol'boy hadn't been shot, I imagine he would have suggested it again sometime after the War. Slave ships flew under the Stars and Stripes, not the Stars and Bars. What? Do we get rid of the flag representing these United States next? What flag would you suggest? Maybe a blue one?

I'd like to see the same pattern as the current flag but in all the colours of the rainbow. That would be nifty, yeah :-)

appear as racist right-wing rednecks in the public eye

So let me get this straight. If my ancestors fought for the South to protect their lands and I feel they were right in doing so, I'm a racist right-wing redneck?

Not necessarily. Many people have taken up the confederate flag as a racist symbol. Check out pictures of any Klan rally and you'll see many confederate flags.. the Grand Dragon (whatever he calls himself) of the KKK here in Georgia had two large confederate flags by the sides of his front door (until recently, he took them down).

And yet I don't stereotype anyone. I allow them to open their mouths and spew hate speech against someone's heritage before I label them.

It's fine to be proud of one's heritage. it's not fine to defend evil practices of certain people who were part of that heritage. Slavery was wrong.

Is this the county where the Black man owned the crematory that desecrated all those white bodies that you never hear anymore about?

No. I believe that was in Walker County. The guy's name is Ray Marsh. It was all in the news for weeks. I guess they unearthed the bodies and identified as many of them as possible. I think Marsh is in prison now. I wasn't aware of a racial component to the case. The 'victims' were of all races.

"white trash?" What on earth are you talking about? Forsyth is the wealthiest county in Georgia.

..and the whitest. White trashiness is a state of mind. Henry County is similar. I live in one of the blackest counties, Clayton County. Passing over the line is like black and white, so to speak..

So, under privileged black folks are poor and underprivileged white folks are trash. That bout sums it up doesn't it?

That was meant tongue-in-cheek.

Wait until you see what happens when your communist politicians push their war on Georgian culture just a wee bit further. You aren't going to believe it even while it's happening.

Umm,.. Georgia state legislature is full of rabid anti-Communists. Southern Democrats and Republicans are very conservative. Can you name any of these Communist politicians who are waging a "war on georgian culture"?

Then the people with the problem ought to work to overcome it on their own.

Forsythe has become integrated. I drove through recently and did see some (poor) black families living there. But for the most part it's still mostly white(trash)

It isn't hard, and you can't do it by legislating how people think...that just reinforces the negative perceptions and stereotypes that already exist.

Right. You can't legislate how people think, period. Every legislative action to remove confederate symbols creates an equal if not greater reaction. Removing the confederate symbol from the flag of Georgia has made those opposed to it, for whatever reasons, appear as racist right-wing rednecks in the public eye. And yes, most people who were upset about the removal of the symbol are racist right-wing rednecks.

.. Black people weren't allowed to live in Forsythe County until the 1980s

Well, call me ignorant (not stupid) but I cannot believe that "...Black people weren't allowed to live in Forsythe County...."

How were they stopped????Guns, knives, artillary, flame throwers, what?

They were stopped by not being sold properties or being allowed to rent, in violation of federal law of course. They were allowed to work in Forsythe though.. This has changed over the past 15 years, partly through publicity given to the problem by Oprah Winfrey and NAACP lawyers.

Why do they make everything a racial issue?

Race is a serious issue in the South. Here in Georgia race relations are at least 50 years behind the time. There is great disparity in wage and employment, racial profiling, ghetto-ization.. Black people weren't allowed to live in Forsythe County until the 1980s. Racism is a real problem. It's societal more than institutional. It's the Confederate mentality.

I don't think I need to tell you folks how insane my fellow libs are going to get over this tidbit of information (ammunition on the "character" issue), so I am-believe it or not-curious as to YOUR P.O.V. on this matter. How do YOU feel about a guy like this?

I think it's great.. another liberal Republican. The public schools are in sad shape.