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  • When US Troops Left Too Soon

    05/11/2015 4:42:21 AM PDT · by Kaslin · 72 replies
    Townhall.com ^ | May 10, 2015 | Jeff Jacoby
    Last month marked the 40th anniversary of the fall of Saigon, a moment vividly encapsulated by the frenzied scene of South Vietnamese desperately trying to reach the last helicopter on the roof of the American embassy. April was also the 150th anniversary of the surrender at Appomattox, when Robert E. Lee capitulated to Ulysses S. Grant, bringing the bloodiest fighting of the Civil War to an end.The two episodes seemingly have little to do with each other. But each, in its way, illustrates one of the bleakly recurring themes of US military history: When America's armed forces prematurely abandon the...
  • Newsweek's Hirsh Ignores 'Killing Fields' as He Mocks 'Harsh' Vietnam Aftermath

    08/26/2007 7:16:27 PM PDT · by george76 · 112 replies · 2,405+ views
    NewsBusters ^ | August 26, 2007 | Brent Baker |
    In a “Web-exclusive” commentary posted Thursday, Newsweek Senior Editor Michael Hirsh ridiculed President George W. Bush's warning that a precipitous pull-out from Iraq could lead to the humanitarian horrors that followed the American pull-out from Vietnam. Recalling a trip he made to Vietnam in 1991, Hirsh reported that he found a nation looking to the West and capitalism, adding that “today Vietnam remains” only “nominally communist.” He then snidely asserted: “This was the 'harsh' aftermath that George W. Bush attempted to describe this week when he warned against pulling out of Iraq as we did in Vietnam.” James Taranto, in...
  • Abandon Iraq and see a Vietnam horror show

    08/25/2007 8:30:41 PM PDT · by DakotaRed · 18 replies · 553+ views
    The Sunday Times (UK) ^ | August 26, 2007 | William Shawcross
    By the co-author if the June 7, 2007 NYT op-ed Defeat’s Killing Fields. "Not everybody would regard it as a badge of hon-our to be cited favourably by President Bush in a speech about Iraq, but it happened to me last week when Bush warned that the consequences of leaving Iraq precipitously could be a bloodbath even worse than happened in Indochina after the American defeat in 1975. Alas, I think he is right." ******************** "I have always thought that those of us who opposed the American war in Indochina should be extremely humble in the face of the appalling...
  • "The Aftermath of Saigon's Fall Is Rarely Dealt With At All" (you'll never guess the author!)

    08/24/2007 4:56:35 PM PDT · by Western Civ 4ever · 5 replies · 759+ views
    This Congress was elected in November 1974, only months after Nixon's resignation, and it was dominated by a fresh group of antiwar Democrats. One of the first actions of the new Congress was to vote down a supplemental appropriation for the beleaguered South Vietnamese that would have provided $800 million in military aid, including much-needed ammunition, spare parts and medical supplies. This vote was a horrendous blow, in both emotional and practical terms, to the country that had trusted American judgment for more than a decade of intense conflict. It was also a clear indication that Washington was abandoning the...
  • Why America’s Pullout From Vietnam Worked (Barf Alert)

    08/24/2007 1:24:55 AM PDT · by DakotaRed · 27 replies · 691+ views
    Newsweek/MSNBC ^ | Aug 23, 2007 | Michael Hirsh
    Aug. 23, 2007 - The Soviet Union was in its final days of existence when I visited Vietnam in late December of 1991. The cold war was about to end forever with the collapse of one of the two adversaries that had kept it going for 40-odd years. A lot had changed in Vietnam, too, I discovered during my trip. The coziness between Moscow and Hanoi, once comrades within the Soviet bloc, had curdled into mutual hatred. Throughout the country, but especially in the North, the Vietnamese had come to despise the large resident Russian population for its cheap spending...
  • Why America's Pullout From Vietnam Worked (Unbelievable! Ultra Barf Alert!)

    08/23/2007 7:38:04 PM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet · 41 replies · 1,115+ views
    Newsweek ^ | August 23, 2007 | Michael Hirsh
    The truth behind Bush's mangling of Cold War history. The Soviet Union was in its final days of existence when I visited Vietnam in late December of 1991. The cold war was about to end forever with the collapse of one of the two adversaries that had kept it going for 40-odd years. A lot had changed in Vietnam, too, I discovered during my trip. The coziness between Moscow and Hanoi, once comrades within the Soviet bloc, had curdled into mutual hatred. Throughout the country, but especially in the North, the Vietnamese had come to despise the large resident Russian...
  • Returning to Cambodia Killing fields of media fallacies.

    08/23/2007 6:44:54 PM PDT · by ChessExpert · 20 replies · 906+ views
    National Review Online ^ | August 23, 2007 | Peter W. Rodman
    Military historians seem to be converging on a consensus that by the end of 1972, the balance of forces in Vietnam had improved considerably, increasing the prospects for South Vietnam’s survival. That balance of forces was reflected in the Paris Agreement of January 1973, and the (Democratic) Congress then proceeded to pull the props out from under that balance of forces over the next 2 ½ years — abandoning all of Indochina to a bloodbath. This is now a widely accepted narrative of the endgame in Vietnam, and it has haunted the Democrats for a generation.
  • Why America's Pullout From Vietnam Was a Success (Freep this megabarfer alert)

    08/23/2007 1:49:48 PM PDT · by Parody · 43 replies · 1,075+ views
    SpewsWeak ^ | Aug. 23, 2007 | Michael Hirsh
    The Soviet Union was in its final days of existence when I visited Vietnam in late December of 1991. The cold war was about to end forever with the collapse of one of the two adversaries that had kept it going for 40-odd years. A lot had changed in Vietnam, too, I discovered during my trip. The coziness between Moscow and Hanoi, once comrades within the Soviet bloc, had curdled into mutual hatred. Throughout the country, but especially in the North, the Vietnamese had come to despise the large resident Russian population for its cheap spending habits and arrogance. Visiting...
  • Vietnam: The Fog of War or the Smoke of Propaganda? - (Cronkite, "..and that's the way it is")

    05/05/2005 5:49:54 PM PDT · by CHARLITE · 15 replies · 840+ views
    NEWSMAX.COM ^ | MAY 3, 2005 | CARLTON SHERWOOD
    Thirty years ago, Americans were transfixed by the chaotic images flickering across their TV screens. Hordes of frantic South Vietnamese men, women and children desperately clinging to the U.S. Embassy fence in Saigon, pleading for escape. Chinook helicopters teetering precariously on the Embassy roof, evacuating the last Americans even as North Vietnamese Communist Army tanks rolled into the outskirts of the city. Huey gunships, the very symbol of American combat power in Vietnam, commandeered by fleeing South Vietnamese Army pilots, either ditched into the sea or pushed overboard from the decks of crowded American aircraft carriers. If the film footage...
  • Looking back at the Vietnam War - (Garnett "Bill" Bell's retrospective analysis)

    05/02/2005 9:38:25 PM PDT · by CHARLITE · 3 replies · 390+ views
    AUGUSTA FREE PRESS. ^ | MAY 2, 2005 | GARNETT "BILL" BELL
    As the U.S. Marine Corps helicopter lifted from the roof of the American Embassy in Saigon at daybreak on April 30, 1975, I thought about the carnage that would result from a heat-seeking missile fired by Vietnamese Communist forces gradually encircling the besieged capital of the dying Republic of Vietnam. Exhausted by a lack of sleep for the previous week, I no longer felt fear, only curiosity. Tears welled up in my eyes, perhaps due in part to the anguish of witnessing the tragic events unfolding before me, but also from caustic smoke belched out of rooftop incinerators glowing cherry-red...
  • Sometimes, it simply isn't Vietnam

    04/29/2005 3:11:47 AM PDT · by RWR8189 · 41 replies · 1,682+ views
    USA Today | April 28, 2005 | Jonah Goldberg
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  • The FReeper Foxhole Revisits Chris Woods - Frequent Wind - Saigon (4/30/75) - Apr. 29th, 2005

    04/28/2005 9:46:33 PM PDT · by snippy_about_it · 111 replies · 954+ views
    Lord, Keep our Troops forever in Your care Give them victory over the enemy... Grant them a safe and swift return... Bless those who mourn the lost. . FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer for all those serving their country at this time. ...................................................................................... ........................................... U.S. Military History, Current Events and Veterans Issues Where Duty, Honor and Countryare acknowledged, affirmed and commemorated. Our Mission: The FReeper Foxhole is dedicated to Veterans of our Nation's military forces and to others who are affected in their relationships with Veterans. In the FReeper Foxhole, Veterans or their family members should feel...
  • Proud of Protesting Vietnam?

    08/26/2004 6:40:56 PM PDT · by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton · 33 replies · 723+ views
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    I am watching Hannity give this sKerry apologist say that stopping the war is something to be proud of. Yet, nothing is mentioned about the true results of our defeat. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't millions die in Nam and Cambodia because of our premature withdrawal?
  • The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Chris Woods - Frequent Wind - Saigon(4/30/75) - Apr. 30th, 2003

    04/30/2003 5:26:17 AM PDT · by SAMWolf · 87 replies · 3,859+ views
    Dear Lord, There's a young man far from home, called to serve his nation in time of war; sent to defend our freedom on some distant foreign shore. We pray You keep him safe, we pray You keep him strong, we pray You send him safely home ... for he's been away so long. There's a young woman far from home, serving her nation with pride. Her step is strong, her step is sure, there is courage in every stride. We pray You keep her safe, we pray You keep her strong, we pray You send her safely home...