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BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) — NATO nations agreed Thursday to broaden their peacekeeping mission in Kosovo to include training for the newly independent nation's security forces. NATO troops will help train Kosovo's troops even though a minority of member nations, led by Spain, have not recognized Kosovo's declaration of independence from Serbia in February. "With this decision, NATO will be able to assist Kosovo in building necessary, democratic security institutions," alliance Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said at the meeting of NATO defense ministers. "This Kosovo security force will be lightly armed, democratic and will focus initially on crisis response...

Military Occupation by: Ben Giles, June 04, 2008 David Edelstein argues for one major variable of success for military occupancy, and his research shows that the War in Iraq has done a poor job of recognizing this all-important factor. Edelstein, an assistant professor at Georgetown University, presented the findings of his new book, Occupational Hazards: Success and Failure In Military Occupancy, at the Cato Institute on May 29, a subject which moderator Justin Long called a “terribly important topic, and terribly timely as well.” “If only we had had this book before the invasion of Iraq,” said Jack Snyder of...

A Native Hawaiian group that advocates sovereignty briefly occupied the grounds of a historic palace in downtown Honolulu on Wednesday, saying it would carry out the business of what it considers the legitimate government of the islands.

It is standard practice for athletes and magicians to fake us out. They distract our attention to mislead us as to their intentions. Politicians do to. It used to be Israel's policy to put facts on the ground to strengthen Israel's hold on Judea and Samaria and to make time work against Palestinians. That was when we considered such lands "disputed territories", when we sought to get agreement on "defensible borders" and believed that Jerusalem would be Israel's undivided capital forever. No more. As a result of this activity, the US declared war on the settlements. The Mitchel Report in...

Beijing's claims of an "unwavering stand" in support of Tibet are groundless By Howard W. French Thursday, March 20, 2008 XINING, China: Count the ways that China has sought to bring Tibet to heel since the People's Liberation Army rolled into the country in 1950, brutally ending a phase of nominal independence. It has tried decapitation. No, heads didn't roll, but one of the heads of Tibetan Buddhism has disappeared. Here, I speak of Gendun Choekyi Nyima, a 6-year-old boy who was apprehended by Beijing after the Dalai Lama named him Panchen Lama, the second holiest figure in Tibetan Buddhism,...

Jan 26, 2008 22:37 | Updated Jan 27, 2008 20:48 Power and Politics: So, is the 'occupation' over? By ELLIOT JAGER To this day, it's been hard for Israel to rid itself of the Gaza Strip and its 1.3 million Palestinian Arab inhabitants. Prime Minister Menachem Begin tried to convince Egyptian president Anwar Sadat to take Gaza in 1979, when Israel turned over the Sinai Peninsula as part of the Egypt-Israel peace treaty. No thanks, said Sadat, though Egypt had occupied the Strip from 1948 until the 1967 Six Day War. Israel's unilateral disengagement from Gaza in 2005 was another...

From Jessica's WellIf you did not click on the link yet, please answer these questions before reading the article in LIFE Magazine. Where have you heard the following? Americans are losing the victory The troops returning home are worried. “We’ve lost the peace,” men tell you. “We can’t make it stick.” Friend and foe alike, look you accusingly in the face and tell you how bitterly they are disappointed in you as an American. You try to explain to these (People) that they expected too much. They answer that they had a right to, that after the last was America...

1) A Summit based on Arabist false language. 2) Is Israel's survival on the table? Re: ILLEGAL Arab "Palestinians" have semantics Let's see, those Arab immigrants grandchildren, the so called "Palestinians", don't really pay much for their parents/grandparents, and their own crimes of initiating attacks on little Israel with a clear attempt of annihilation (What "occupation"? what was their plan in 1929, 1948, and all those years priort to 1967? and why are most attacks on innocent unarmed Israelis in: Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Netanya, Haifa, etc.?) So basically, they are back at square one, when the ILLEGAL Arab "Palestinians" refused...

Published: 11/09/07, 10:25 AM Interfaith Leadership Council Acknowledges 'Occupation' by Hana Levi Julian and Hillel Fendel (IsraelNN.com) U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has received a special blessing from religious leaders of the Jewish, Christian and Islamic faiths who appear to agree that Arabs in Judea and Samaria are living "under occupation." The communique, which was read to the media at a news conference Wednesday in Washington, D.C., was sent to Rice following her visit last week to a Bethlehem church and the Greek Patriarchate in Jerusalem. Rice also met at the time with other religious leaders. The statement was...

The man in his own words on Syrian TV.

As of this minute, Syria occupies at least 177 square miles of Lebanese soil. That you are now reading about it for the first time is as much a scandal as the occupation itself. The news comes by way of a fact-finding survey of the Lebanese-Syrian border just produced by the International Lebanese Committee for U.N. Security Council Resolution 1559, an American NGO that has consultative status with the U.N. Because of the sensitivity of the subject, the authors have requested anonymity and have circulated the report only among select government officials and journalists. But its findings cannot be ignored.

Johnston family 'distressed' by video http://www.guardian.co.uk/Media/site/story/0,,2110809,00.html Guardian Unlimited - The family of kidnapped BBC journalist Alan Johnston say they are "most concerned and distressed" by the latest video released by his captors, in which he said he has been dressed in an explosives belt to deter rescue attempts. BBC journalist in bomb-belt threat video http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__international_news/&articleid=312303New Video Shows Captured BBC Reporter http://www.abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=3311720 I am sure they are merely "fighting the occupation" don't you think?

........Israel was charitable toward the Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza because the quality of their lives rose during the years of occupation.

It's that time of year again. Summer is here, the temperature outside is rising, and Israel's irresponsible critics are busy turning up the heat. Deploying a potent mix of selective amnesia combined with some good ol' fashioned obfuscation, these "amnesiacs," as I call them, would have us all believe that nothing good ever came from the 1967 Six Day War. Seizing upon this month's 40th anniversary of that heroic triumph, they are trying to rewrite the historical narrative, injecting as much gloom and doom as possible in order to push Israel into making still more concessions to the Arabs. Occupation,...

All Israelis should perform occupation duties, so we cannot say 'we didn't know' Ariel Rubinstein Published: 06.08.07, 08:02 / Israel Opinion I fear the day when someone would sit me down in a comfortable armchair at the air- conditioned auditorium in Tel Aviv, serve me coffee and cream cake and put me through a series of tortures: First he would make me watch a selection of movies documenting the events in the territories over the past 40 years. Next, he would force me to read out loud a series of articles published every day in the newspapers depicting the way...

As polls continue to show overwhelming national opposition to giving up the Golan, opposition MKs blast PM Olmert for offering it to Syria. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's latest offer to give the Golan Heights to Syria flies in the face of polls showing public opposition to ceding the Golan, and has many MKs on both sides of the political spectrum up in arms. Olmert reportedly informed Syria last month that he is willing to cede the Golan to Syrian sovereignty, but wishes to verify that Syria will, in turn, cut its ties with Iran, Hizbullah and Palestinian terrorist organizations...

DEAD SEA - "As you know, the Arab countries are engaged in a major effort to achieve a just settlement of the Arab-Israeli conflict. In late March, the Arab Peace Initiative was renewed unanimously by the Arab countries. For Palestinians, there can be no more delay. The absence of peace and the conditions of occupation have devastated Palestinian life. Three of every five job-seekers cannot find employment. Hundreds of thousands of families are living in misery, sustained only by humanitarian aid. This suffocating situation has brought poverty, malnutrition, frustration and radicalisation...

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - King Abdullah denounced the American military presence in Iraq on Wednesday as an "illegitimate foreign occupation" and called on the West to end its financial embargo against the Palestinians. The Saudi monarch's speech was a strongly worded lecture to Arab leaders that their divisions had helped fuel turmoil across the Middle East, and he urged them to show unity. But in opening the Arab summit, Abdullah also nodded to hardliners by criticizing the U.S. presence in Iraq. "In beloved Iraq, blood is flowing between brothers, in the shadow of an illegitimate foreign occupation, and abhorrent sectarianism...

US: Cyprus oil controversy points to need for settlement 2007-02-06 11:56:47 Nicosia, Feb 6 (CNA) – The US State Department has reaffirmed its view that the oil controversy in connection with Cyprus points to the need for a settlement of the island’s long standing political problem. In a statement issued after the daily briefing outlining the US position regarding oil exploration in the continental shelf off Cyprus, State Department Spokesman Sean McCormack said that the US policy has not changed, noting that “a final settlement will enable all Cypriots to benefit from the island's resources”. “Any dispute here is between...

MONTPELIER, Vt. -- Iraq war veterans Matt Howard and Drew Cameron of Burlington entered the Statehouse full of hope Tuesday. State lawmakers were expected to take a strong stand demanding the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. By midway through the day, their hopes had turned to disillusionment after the House voted to delete language suggesting that the troops' presence in Iraq was contributing to its instability. The veterans said their experience was that the American military is contributing to the violence. "I'm very disappointed at the level of discussion," said Howard, 25, of Burlington, who served two tours in...

Lebanon - Islamists "Palestinians" massacre of Christians in Damour that brought Christian Arabs killing "Palestinians" in Sabra Shatila You might have only heared about the massacre at Sabra Shatila through a pro "Palestinian" propagandist that have one, and nothing but one issue, no, nothing that has to with justice whatsoever, but to persecute Israel and denegrate it. It is only natural that they blame ANYTHING on the Zionists, even though the only connection to the case where Arab christians killed the Arab Palestinians in Sabra Shatila is the "charge" that Sharon did not prevent the Arab Christians from doing that......

To be a "good" Muslim! Part I http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1726241/posts Part II http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1727912/posts Part III http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1728361/posts Dehumaize victims of Islamic terror, especially Israeli men, women & children as "tanks". Never apologize for the continuing exposed (Like Muhammad Aldura, Reuters "images", Jenin "numbers" & added bodies) long tradition of lying, faking, inventing hoaxes, faking images, etc. but rather be already busy with preparing the next one. Islamic violence and bloodshed is always ahead of West's "reprisal", in other words, Bin Laden, Muhammad Atta, etc. have massacred Americans on 9/11/2001 was because the US will eventually go into Afghanistan afterwards, Islamists almost succeeded with...

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/000920.php Mufti of Australia: this was Muslim land Mufti of Australia: this was Muslim land - Mufti of Australia and New Zealand, Taj Al-Din Hamed Abdallah Al-Hilali, is claiming that Australia was originally Muslim land, settled by Afghans. The Aborigines are their descendants: this is a key element of the claim to Israel put forward by Hamas and Islamic Jihad. The same claim has been advanced, by the way, for America...

Update for Condi: Who is Humiliating Whom? On October 11, 2006 in a Keynote Address to the American Task Force on Palestine,1 Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice claimed that Palestinian Arabs feel "daily humiliation of occupation." Palestinians say they feel humiliated and harassed when Israeli authorities search them and their belongings; when they are prevented from "travel[ing] more freely" because of checkpoints, roadblocks, closures, curfews and security concerns. "Student of International History" Dr. Rice, you maintain that you are "a student of international history." International law, the UN Charter and Article 80 of the UN Charter implicitly recognize the Mandate...

The 1990-2006 War in Iraq might soon be over. The head of the British Army is calling for the removal of his nation’s troops. Other members of the Coalition of the Willing are preparing to leave this year as well. The Iraq Studies Group headed by former Secretary of State Baker is putting together a report to be released in December, and it will either suggest pulling American forces out of the fight and positioning them along the border of Iraq or pulling out all together. Even the Iraqi government is working to divide the nation politically along ethnic lines...

US Supplies Fatah With Arms, Rice Decries "Occupation" by Ezra HaLevi & Hana Levi Julian The Fatah faction received a new shipment of arms Thursday as part of a Western aid package to bolster forces loyal to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen). Fatah is the political party which PLO chairman Yassir Arafat headed. The Al-Aksa Brigades terror group operates under its authority. Thousands of M-16 assault rifles, made in the U.S., were delivered to Fatah forces in Judea and Samaria as part of the effort to strengthen Abbas's position in opposition to Hamas leader and PA Prime Minister...

Jordan: End Israeli occupation, violence will end THE JERUSALEM POST Sep. 20, 2006 Jordan's King Abdullah II said Tuesday that until Israel ends its occupation of Palestinian lands and gives Palestinian their rights, the cycle of violence will continue in the region and its effects will be felt throughout the world. "I come before you today with a deep sense of urgency," Abdullah told the 61st session of the United Nations General Assembly. "Never has it been more important for the world community to act decisively for peace in my region." He said the recent crises in the Middle East...

Police duties at West Bank checkpoints made IDF weaker The moment the second Lebanon war ended, and in fact even before that, a difficult and grim question emerged: What happened to our great, mighty army? Why is it that 40 years ago it managed to beat the armies of three states in a matter of days, while this time around it failed to defeat a small military force despite getting plenty of time to accomplish the mission? Various answers have been presented. One of them has to do with personalities: The prime minister is brash, the defense minister is a...

COLUMBUS, Ohio , Sept. 15, 2006 -- In a significant event in the diplomatic arena, an agreement signed here a week ago kicked off a partnership between the state of Ohio and the Republic of Serbia. Serbian President Boris Tadic (left) holds a Minutemen statue presented to him by U.S. Army Lt. Gen. H Steven Blum, chief of the National Guard Bureau, during a Sept. 7 dinner for Tadic at Blum’s home at Fort McNair, in Washington. Tadic endorsed Serbia’s participation in the National Guard’s State Partnership Program with Ohio during his visit to the U.S. Photo by Master...

Like Olmert, Hamas and Hizbullah realize that without solid Jewish majority on stable borders – Israel will not survive. They are not fighting the occupation, but rather the option of ending it All Israelis had good reasons to support the recent war in Lebanon, as well as in Gaza. All had good reason to regret it didn't end in victory. This is the obvious part. It is the self evident interest of all those who wish to see a peaceful Middle East to prevent Iran, Syria and fundamentalist Islam in general from achieving hegemony in the region. But the left...

Abraham Lincoln once said, "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." He might not have known it at the time, but what he was talking about was occupation. How many times have you heard that "X's terror is due to occupation" (replace "X" with a wide variety of Islamic groups...) or "end the occupation and there will be no terror," etc.? Somehow, the world has been fooled for far too long into believing that the root cause of the...

Fox News military analyst Maj. Bob Bevelacqua, a former Green Beret, appearing tonight on "The O'Reilly Factor," compared Israeli actions in Lebanon and Gaza with Nazi actions in Russia during World War II. ... .... "Saying the Israelis pulled out of Lebanon is like saying the Nazis pulled out of Moscow," he said. "They invaded Lebanon. They invaded Gaza. They take homes and then they give them back. And they expect some type of great recognition."

PARIS - French far-right leader Jean-Marie Le Pen has been ordered to stand trial for comments denying the brutality of the Nazi occupation of France during World War II, judicial officials said on Wednesday. Le Pen is under investigation for "justifying war crimes" and "complicity in contesting crimes against humanity." He could appeal the two separate rulings ordering him to stand trial, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity. In January 2005, the National Front leader gave an interview to the small, extreme-right newspaper, Rivarol. He was quoted as saying: "In France at least, the German occupation...

BERLIN, June 2 (Reuters) - Russia and China can opt out but will not block U.N. sanctions that may be imposed on Iran if it refuses to suspend its nuclear enrichment programme, a diplomat from the European Union told Reuters on Friday. Citing a deal agreed by Germany, France, Britain, the United States, China and Russia in Vienna on Thursday, the diplomat said that the six world powers had agreed on a "catalogue of sanctions" that could be used if Tehran remains defiant. "There is something like a catalogue of sanctions and we can pick and choose from them. The...

Iran insisted Friday that the West will not deprive it of nuclear technology and must drop conditions on negotiations, defying pressure to accept a package of incentives to stop its nuclear activities. Iranian officials did not respond directly to the offer agreed to Thursday by the permanent U.N. Security Council members and Germany that calls on Iran to suspend uranium enrichment. Details have yet to be formally presented to Tehran. But Iran's top nuclear negotiator, Ali Larijani, said Europe should "leave out excuse-seeking and illogical conditions and come back to negotiation and cooperation." "Iran is ready for any unconditional, just...

TIJUANA, Mexico - Alejandro Valenzuela, a loquacious 12-year-old, memorized the details of a borrowed U.S. birth certificate and jumped in the front seat of his smuggler's car. Tired from a two-day bus trip to the border from Mexico's central state of Jalisco, Alejandro soon fell asleep. He was awakened by the flashlight of a U.S. immigration inspector. "I told him in English, 'I'm an American citizen,' but he kept asking questions. That's all the English I know," Alejandro said as he rested at a child welfare office back in Tijuana, across the border from San Diego. Alejandro is one of...

LOS ANGELES - Illegal immigrants and their supporters vowed to keep up the pressure on Congress for reforms after more than 1 million people stepped out of the shadows and poured into the streets in a nationwide show of economic clout. From Los Angeles to Chicago, Houston to Miami, a "Day Without Immigrants" Monday meant a day boycotting work and school in favor of rallies and marches with waves of red, white and blue filling streets for miles. "We have far exceeded our expectations," said Mahonrry Hidalgo, chairman of the Immigration Committee of the Latino Leadership Alliance of New Jersey....

The international agenda chiefly discusses how International Atomic Energy Agency Chief Mohammed El BaradeiÂ’s report presented to the United Nations Security Council, will change the course of the issue. While American administration reiterates, taking advantage of the NATO foreign ministers meeting, that Iran will not quit its uranium enrichment and nuclear weapon production projects; Russia, China, and India stress that Iran could be forced to abide by peaceful terms through diplomatic and political channels. The European Union, especially Germany, France, and Britain, stand, in terms of their attitude, between the United States and the others. Iran, however, seems unwilling to...

POINTLESS CHURCH DEBATES WORTHLESS RESOLUTIONS GenCon 2006 is not going to be all homosexuals, all the time. ECUSA will also take on international issues, among them, the Middle East. About which, something called the Standing Commission on Anglican and International Peace with Justice Concerns has a backround report up on five resolutions on which GenCon will vote. Their report is entitled "Report on Palestine/Israel" and says things like this: "A group of American Episcopalians stands in enclosed Bethlehem looking out at the Wall between it and growing Israeli settlements. In some places it is a fence topped with barbed wire...

<p>For a moment this Sunday, the yard outside White House senior adviser Karl Rove's home looked like a scene from "On the Waterfront."</p> <p>In the screen version, Karl Malden's parish priest finds his church surrounded by union toughs who bang their clubs on the basement windows in an effort to intimidate those inside attending a meeting on dockside corruption. In the real-life Beltway version, nine busloads of activists "stormed" (the Washington Post's word) Mr. Rove's yard, blocking the street, surrounding both sides of the house and pounding on the windows at a time when he was inside with his 15-year-old son and his son's friend.</p>

After a backlash, the Border Patrol won't nab suspects except at the border or checkpoints. Now agents are angry. After protests over recent immigration arrests in San Diego and San Juan Capistrano, Border Patrol officials have instructed agents not to make arrests on city streets or question suspected illegal immigrants except along the border and at highway checkpoints in Orange and Riverside counties. The directive, outlined in an Aug. 8 memo, is aimed at agents in San Diego and southern areas of Orange and Riverside counties. "The future of Border Patrol operations" depends on eliminating the public perception that agents...

ORANGE, Calif. - The hodgepodge of U.S. immigration laws, policies and practices is well-illustrated in this Southern California community of millionaires and blue-collar workers. Last month, Orange police seized eight illegal immigrants waiting for work outside a Home Depot and turned them over to federal officials for deportation to Mexico. Not far away, a city-sponsored day laborer center helps employers find workers, some of them illegal. The contrast encapsulates the pressures and competing demands on many cities around the country. Often, politicians are under public pressure to crack down on illegal immigrants, who are frequently accused of loitering on street...

Actor, Calif. Legislature To Study Poverty Committee Hopes To 'Paint A Picture' Of Poverty POSTED: 5:19 p.m. EDT October 21, 2002 UPDATED: 5:24 p.m. EDT October 21, 2002 SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- A new legislative committee, led by Sen. Richard Alarcon, will begin a two-year study of poverty in California, Alarcon and others said Monday. Joined by actor Ed Begley Jr., Alarcon, D-San Fernando, said the Select Committee on the Status of Ending Poverty in California would study poverty and recommend ways the Legislature can fight it. Begley, best known for his role on the 1980s television drama "St. Elsewhere,"...

Los Angeles, U.S., August 22, 2003 (EFE).- Hispanics in the South L.A. municipality of Maywood are angry at what they say is a discriminatory campaign in which police are stopping Latinos and impounding the vehicles of those without a driver's license. "We're not talking about agents of law and order but of official corruption, as though this were Latin America," an irate Felipe Aguirre of the Comite Pro Uno, an activist group organizing protests against the practice, told EFE. In the last 12 months, more than 1,800 vehicles have been impounded from members of the Hispanic community in a town...

NUEVO LAREDO The status of safety in Nuevo Laredo, having drawn high attention from Mexico City and Washington due to midweek violence, played a scene Saturday wherein local police exchanged gunfire with newly-arrived federal agents from Mexico City. A spokesman for the Nuevo Laredo police, Dirección de Seguridad Pública, described the incident as an accidental shooting in which an AFI, Agencia Federal de Investigaciones, agent was wounded. The AFI agent, identified as Feliciano Campos Sanchez, died hours later at a Nuevo Laredo hospital. The local municipal police spokesman, who requested anonymity, told the Laredo Morning Times that the group of...

GO TO THIS WEBSITE AND YOU CAN CLICK ON THE LINK TO CHECK EACH CITY Top 100 Cities with Highest Percentage of Foreign-Born Residents (pop. 5000+) Sweetwater, Florida (74.9%)Fountainbleau, Florida (73.0%)Hialeah, Florida (72.1%)Hialeah Gardens, Florida (69.9%)Westchester, Florida (69.0%)West Miami, Florida (68.9%)University Park, Florida (66.5%)Chamblee, Georgia (66.1%)Coral Terrace, Florida (66.1%)Tamiami, Florida (65.4%)West New York, New Jersey (65.2%)Langley Park, Maryland (64.5%)Doral, Florida (62.8%)Seven Corners, Virginia (61.2%)Miami, Florida (59.5%)Mecca, California (59.4%)Kendall West, Florida (59.3%)Olympia Heights, Florida (58.9%)Kendale Lakes, Florida (58.8%)Union City, New Jersey (58.7%)Westwood Lakes, Florida (58.1%)Palisades Park, New Jersey (57.0%)Sunny Isles Beach, Florida (56.7%)Rosemead, California (56.1%)Harrison, New Jersey (56.0%)Huntington Park, California...

Provisions: Established measures to control U.S. borders, protect legal workers through worksite enforcement, and remove criminal and other deportable aliens: Increased border personnel, equipment, and technology as well as enforcement personnel at land and air ports of entry; Authorized improvements in barriers along the Southwest border; Increased anti-smuggling authority and penalties for alien smuggling; Increased penalties for illegal entry, passport and visa fraud, and failure to depart; Increased INS investigators for worksite enforcement, alien smuggling, and visa overstayers; Established three voluntary pilot programs to confirm the employment eligibility of workers and reduced the number and types of documents that may...

One California city gets tough with illegals, even as another opts to become a 'sanctuary.' MAYWOOD AND COSTA MESA, CALIF. - One community is car-horn noisy, smokestack gritty, and tightly packed - with narrow streets, tiny houses, and flowering window boxes. The other is golf-course quiet, sumptuously green, and suburban - with broad boulevards, spacious lawns, and parks. Just a few miles of freeway separate these southern California towns, but they are light-years apart in their responses to America's immigration debate. Maywood, population 45,000 and 96 percent Latino, is a self- proclaimed "sanctuary" for illegal immigrants. Costa Mesa, population 110,000...

CBS's Chicago station took the lead in reporting the large immigrant protest yesterday in Chicago. And once again it looks like CBS is blatently manipulating the news, to support their viewpoints. Case in point are the pictures featured prominantly on their web site. Here is the lead picture: Notice the prominant American flag. If you choose to "view slideshow" here is the front image: Five of the first 10 slides have large obvious flags in the, such as this: The complete library can be viewed HERE (at least until they wise up and pull it like the did the fake...