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  • How Trump Could Win The White House While Losing The Popular Vote

    09/15/2016 11:28:47 AM PDT · by FenwickBabbitt · 44 replies
    FiveThirtyEight ^ | September 15, 2016 | David Wasserman
    ...there is an unusually high chance Donald Trump could win the Electoral College while losing the popular vote — basically, Democrats’ version of the apocalypse. Here’s why: Several of Trump’s worst demographic groups happen to be concentrated in states, such as California, New York, Texas and Utah, that are either not competitive or that aren’t on Trump’s must-win list. Conversely, whites without a college degree — one of Trump’s strongest groups — represent a huge bloc in three blue states he would need to turn red to have the best chance of winning 270 electoral votes: Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.......
  • Romp For Likud With 25% Of The Popular Vote In

    03/17/2015 5:21:54 PM PDT · by goldstategop · 140 replies
    Jerusalem Post ^ | 03/18/2015 | JPost Staff
    The returns on voting from ballot boxes indicate that the Likud has significantly extended its lead over Zionist Union. According to Israel Radio, officials have counted the votes of 25 percent of booths across the country. The results indicate that the Likud wins 32 Knesset seats while Zionist Union garners 25 seats. Yesh Atid is the third-largest party with 11 seats, Moshe Kahlon's Kulanu faction wins 10 seats, the Arab List nosedives to nine seats, the Sephardi ultra-Orthodox Shas movement wins eight seats, Naftali Bennett's Bayit Yehudi dips further to seven seats, while Yisrael Beytenu, which has only mustered five...
  • Little Pavel Goes to College

    05/02/2014 7:35:00 AM PDT · by jfd1776 · 3 replies
    Illinois Review ^ | May 2, 2014 A.D. | John F. Di Leo
    Join us, as our young campaign volunteer teaches his classmates the reality behind the "National Popular Vote" scam… Young Pavel Syerov, Jr. (Paul to his friends) was walking through the Student Union after class, navigating the many tables with sign-up sheets and volunteers, just trying to get a cup of coffee, way at the other end of the dining hall (he still had one more class, in an hour, and wanted to be conscious for it!). “Save the Trees!” read the first banner. Then “Save the Dolphins!” read the next. Then “Save the Earth.” And of course, “Save the Owls!”...
  • Oklahoma House Kills National Popular Vote Bill

    02/19/2014 3:35:49 AM PST · by LD Jackson · 17 replies
    Political Realities ^ | 02/19/14 | LD Jackson
    I wrote last Saturday about the insanity displayed by some Oklahoma Senators, Republicans no less, by passing a bill that would tie Oklahoma's Electoral College votes to the national popular vote. In case you missed that discussion, you can find it here. For further analysis that goes beyond what I provided, The McCarville Report has a post that is a must read about the National Popular Vote Fallacy. In regards to the bill that was passed by the Oklahoma Senate, I have been concerned about how it would fare in the House. I can now report that the bill will...
  • Oklahoma State Senate Votes To Bind State's Electoral Votes To National Popular Vote

    02/15/2014 6:14:40 AM PST · by LD Jackson · 155 replies
    Political Realities ^ | 02/15/14 | LD Jackson
    Here in Oklahoma, we like to call ourselves the reddest of red states. But even here, the insanity is encroaching and hard to keep at bay. That is why it is ever so important to keep a watchful eye over those who represent us, both on the national and state level.The President and Vice President of the United States are elected by a process known as the Electoral College. I'm not going to bore you with a long and complicated explanation of why that is the case, so here is my simple and condensed version. The United States is made...
  • How Romney could have won the popular vote (It all came down to turnout)

    06/01/2013 5:31:18 AM PDT · by SeekAndFind · 206 replies
    Daily Caller ^ | 06/01/2013
    White and Hispanic turnout fell from 2004 to 2012, according to a new study by the Center for Immigration Studies based on newly-released U.S. Census data. Had turnout equaled what it was in 2004, 4.7 million more whites would have voted in 2012, of which 4.2 million were not college graduates, according to the study. Obama received five million more votes than Romney. “As Republicans think about how they can expand their voter base, the new data suggest that one of their biggest problems in the last presidential election was that so many less-educated whites sat home,” said Steven Camarota,...
  • Real Electoral College Reform

    12/08/2012 8:14:32 PM PST · by Tolerance Sucks Rocks · 20 replies
    Freedom Outpost ^ | December 7, 2012 | Paul Hollrah
    In a recent column titled The National Popular Vote Fallacy, I attempted to demonstrate how the progressives who are behind the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) may, in fact, be shooting themselves in the foot.As the NPVIC rule is designed, when enough states have joined the Compact to bring at least 270 electoral votes (a simple majority in the Electoral College) to the table, then and only then will the combined electoral votes of all the Compact states automatically go to the candidate with a majority of the national popular vote, thereby eliminating any possibility of electing a president...
  • Comparing the Obama vs McCain Popular Vote to the Obama vs Romney Popular Vote. Startling!! (VANITY)

    11/07/2012 8:14:26 PM PST · by SeekAndFind · 66 replies
    Vanity | 11/07/2012 | Self
    I just did a quick lookup of the Obama vs McCain popular vote as compared to the Obama vs Romney Popular vote and here is what I see: Election 2008 Source:,_2008 2008: Obama: 69,456,897 McCain: 59,934,814 TOTAL VOTES CAST: 129,391,711 Obama Victory Margin: 52.9% to 45.7% (9,522,083 votes) Obama: 365 EV McCain: 173 EV _______________________ Election 2012 Source: 2012: Obama: 60,652,149 Romney: 57,810,390 TOTAL VOTES CAST: 118,462,539 (2,841,759 votes) Obama Victory Margin: 51.2% to 48.8% Assuming Obama takes Florida (which as of this writing is still uncalled)... Obama: 332 EV Romney: 206 EV ___________________ What I find interesting...
  • The Final Week

    11/02/2012 8:45:21 AM PDT · by Kaslin · 2 replies ^ | November 2, 2012 | Jackie Gingrich Cushman
    No doubt there are thousands, possibly even millions of people like me who are glad that the election season is (more than likely, barring recounts) coming to an end. In less than a week, we will know the outcome of the presidential election (again, barring recounts). As a lifelong campaign participant (my campaign experience started at 7 years of age), I know that campaigns are more than just raising money, producing ads, going to parades and participating in debates. They are the lifeblood of our country. Elections are the process by which our government remains the government of the people,...
  • The Statistical Significance of Sandy Could Alter Electoral, Popular-Vote Math (Advantage Romney)

    10/31/2012 7:12:32 AM PDT · by SeekAndFind · 22 replies
    National Journal ^ | 10/31/2012 | Major Garrett
    One of more absurd notions to crop up in the latter stages of the presidential campaign is that GOP challenger Mitt Romney could win the popular vote and lose the Electoral College vote.Until Hurricane Sandy, this was a cable TV notion in search of historical and mathematical mooring. That it bobbed aimlessly through the occasionally mindless waters of talking heads made it no different from any other might-this-happen adventure in televised banality.But think about it for just two seconds.The concept is built on the theory that Romney could run up the vote in Southern and high Plains states and get...
  • 1.47% : average popular vote difference in last three electoral inversions [vanity]

    10/27/2012 8:19:31 AM PDT · by matt1234 · 8 replies
    me | Oct. 27, 2012 | me
    1.47% is the average popular vote difference between presidential candidates in the last three electoral inversions (electoral vote winner is not popular vote winner.) There have been four electoral inversions in US history: 2000, 1888, 1876 and 1824. This calculation excludes 1824 because (1) four candidates won electoral votes, (2) the winner was decided by the House of Representatives because no candidate won a majority of the electoral votes, and (3) some states did not conduct popular votes. Summary: 2000: Gore: 48.4%. Bush: 47.9%. Diff.: 0.5%. 1888: Cleveland: 48.6%. Harrison: 47.8%. Diff.: 0.8%. 1876: Tilden: 51.0%. Hayes: 47.9%. Diff.: 3.1%....
  • How Likely Is an Electoral Vote/Popular Vote Split?

    10/12/2012 7:46:28 PM PDT · by SeekAndFind · 23 replies
    RCP ^ | 10/12/2012 | Sean Trende
    The possibility that Mitt Romney could win the popular vote while Barack Obama wins the vote in the Electoral College has been discussed throughout this campaign. In recent days, we've seen pieces from Nate Silver, Nate Cohn, Harry Enten and RCP's Scott Conroy exploring the issue. Obama Campaign Manager Jim Messina has even referenced the potential discrepancy, urging reporters to look at the state polls rather than the national surveys.How likely is this, really? History suggests "not very," unless the race is extremely close. This is because the Electoral College and the popular vote almost always line up reasonably well.Take...
  • Election 2012: If the Popular-Vote Loser Wins, Rift Would Likely Ensue

    10/11/2012 9:41:40 AM PDT · by SeekAndFind · 32 replies
    RCP ^ | 10/11/2012 | Scott Controy
    If the presidential election were to play out according to RealClearPolitics' latest polling averages, Mitt Romney would surpass President Obama by 1.0 percent in the nationwide vote. Cue the balloon drop and pop the champagne corks in Boston, right? Not exactly. Under the same current polling scenario, Obama’s relative strength in the battleground states could propel him to victory over Romney in the Electoral College. A candidate has been elected president while losing the popular vote four times in American history (including John Quincy Adams, who in 1824 finished second in the popular vote to Andrew Jackson but was elected...
  • National Popular Vote: Goodbye, Sweet America.

    03/20/2012 10:47:18 AM PDT · by Dick Bachert · 19 replies
    Publius Hulda Blog ^ | 3/13/2012 | Publius Hulda
    Our Constitution is under constant attack.1 One of the most pernicious attacks is being waged by those who seek to override the constitutional provisions under which The States, as political entities, elect the President; and to replace it with a national popular vote (NPV) under which inhabitants of major metropolitan areas will choose the President. What Form of Government Did We Create In Our Constitution? Before you can see why it is so important that The States elect the President, and why the NPV is so execrable, you must understand how our “federal” government was structured and intended to operate....
  • Group's ad slams McConnell for opposing a change to how presidential races are decided [EC]

    03/07/2012 8:50:43 AM PST · by Republican Wildcat · 17 replies
    cn2 Pure Politics ^ | March 06, 2012 | Ryan Alessi
    (UPDATED WITH ADDITIONAL VIDEO) A national group that wants the popular vote — not the electoral college — to decide presidential races began airing an ad in Kentucky cable markets targeting U.S. Sen. Mitch McConnell, the Senate GOP leader. The 30-second spot paid for by the group Support Popular Vote urges Kentuckians to “send Mitch a message” because McConnell has opposed the concept of moving to a national popular vote system for the presidential race. The ad is airing in Time Warner markets across Kentucky. cn|2 is a division of Time Warner. During a December speech to the Heritage Foundation,...
  • Obama Faces Fearful Political Geography in November

    02/21/2012 3:19:00 AM PST · by radioone · 18 replies
    American Thinker ^ | February 21, 2012 | Adam Yoshida
    The geographic concentration of much of President Obama's political support in a few large Blue States and urban areas means that he could be defeated for re-election this November even while winning the popular vote. What few seem to have seriously considered so far is how daunting the present shape of the political battlefield actually is for the President on a state-by-state level, and what that means when it comes to using national tracking polls as a metric to guess who would win a Presidential election held on any given day. If you look closely enough at the numbers, it...
  • Vanity: In polls, what about electoral college?

    02/03/2012 6:35:28 AM PST · by raccoonradio · 63 replies
    Drudge ^ | 2/3/12 | raccoonradio
    The headline news item on Drudge report says "RASMUSSEN: Obama 45% Romney 45%... Developing... " What I'm wondering is why is this significant overall, because...what about the electoral college? Obama could just barely beat Romney or Gingrich in the popular vote, yet lose the election. Just ask "President Gore". "Gore Got More" was one of the sayings, and he did. According to Wikipedia, Al Gore got 50,999,897 votes. 48.4 per cent. Bush got 50,546,002 votes or 47.9 per cent. If this country elected a President on popular votes, Gore would have been sworn in on 1/20/01. But we use electoral...
  • Fred Thompson Promotes ‘National Popular Vote’ Initiative In Harrisburg

    01/30/2012 8:06:46 AM PST · by Halfmanhalfamazing · 165 replies
    CBS Philadelphia ^ | October 5th, 2011 | Tony Romeo
    HARRISBURG, Pa. (CBS) - The state capitol was the scene of two events promoting distinctly different ways of changing the way Pennsylvania’s presidential electoral votes are awarded. Actor and former Senator and former Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson is part of a bi-partisan effort to create a compact agreement among states to award all of their electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote, no matter who wins the state vote for president.
  • Deciding the president by popular vote is a flawed idea

    01/25/2012 5:32:51 PM PST · by Lmo56 · 58 replies
    Wa Po ^ | 1/23/12 | Charles Lane
    Last Thursday’s GOP presidential debate was a doozy. Some of the commercials weren’t bad, either. My favorite was the ad from the National Popular Vote movement, promoting legislation in the 50 states to guarantee that the people, not the electoral college, choose our president. Mind you, I’ve always found it kind of fallacious to worry that our current system elevates popular-vote losers to the presidency: that’s because popular votes cast in a state-by-state contest for 270 electoral votes do not reflect the national will. Rather, they reflect the results of a competition in which candidates tailor their messages and deploy...
  • GOP plan could jeopardize Pennsylvania's political clout

    09/13/2011 6:57:10 AM PDT · by Vigilanteman · 48 replies
    TRIBUNE-REVIEW (Pittsburgh area) ^ | 13 September 2011 | Mike Wereschagin and Brad Bumsted
    Republicans in charge of the General Assembly want to change how the state hands out its electoral votes, a move that could reshape the national electoral strategies of future presidents and diminish Pennsylvania's role in choosing the country's leader. Senate Majority Leader Dominic Pileggi wants to allocate the 20 electoral votes Pennsylvania will have in the next election according to who wins each of 18 congressional districts, plus two more for whoever wins the statewide popular vote, rather than the winner-take-all system the state now uses. . . . Some analysts said it wouldn't be worth it for campaigns to...
  • Bill Roundup: California Joins “National Popular Vote” Movement

    08/08/2011 6:28:40 PM PDT · by newzjunkey · 30 replies
    California Capitol Network (via KPBS) ^ | August 8, 2011 | Ben Adler
    California could eventually award its presidential Electoral votes to the candidate who wins the national popular vote. It's one of several election-related bills Governor Jerry Brown signed today. Right now, nearly every state awards its Electoral votes to whichever presidential candidate wins that particular state. California's 55 Electoral votes nearly always go to a Democrat these days, so candidates typically don't campaign here much. The National Popular Vote movement seeks to change that dynamic. With the governor's signature, California now joins eight other states that have pledged to award their Electoral votes to whoever gets the most votes nationwide. But...
  • RNC stomps Electoral College switch (re plans afoot for popular vote)

    08/05/2011 9:58:30 PM PDT · by STARWISE · 60 replies
    WashTimes ^ | 8-5-11 | Ralph Z. Hallow
    A move to change the way America elects its president got a clear thumbs down in a vote by members of the Republican National Committee on Friday. A resolution opposing the National Popular Vote initiative won support of every voting RNC member but one who voted "present" instead of "yes." *snip* The initiative has been gaining momentum in state legislatures at what for opponents is an alarming rate, with Republican lawmakers being told top officials of the RNC support it. Members' emotion against abandoning the electoral college was running so high that dozens of members lined up behind two microphones...
  • A popular idea for making California's votes count

    07/17/2011 11:24:59 AM PDT · by thecodont · 121 replies
    San Francisco Chronicle / ^ | Saturday, July 16, 2011 | Marisa Lagos,Wyatt Buchanan, Chronicle Columnists
    It's a complaint that arises every four years, then quickly fades: the disproportionate power a small number of states have over the presidential contest. California lawmakers want to do something about it - in fact, they've tried for years, but were blocked by former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. So just as they did in 2006 and 2008, legislators this week approved a proposal to make California relevant. Here's how it works: California's electoral votes are awarded in a winner-take-all manner. If a presidential candidate wins the majority of popular votes in California, he or she gets all the state's 55 electoral...
  • Fred Thompson to appear in Richmond on behalf of National Popular Vote initiative

    07/11/2011 11:40:58 AM PDT · by Baladas · 93 replies
    Washington Post ^ | 07/11/2011 | Anita Kumar
    Fred Thompson, the former U.S. senator, Republican presidential candidate and actor (Law and Order, etc.), will be in Richmond next week to support an effort to ensure the presidency goes to the winner of the most overall popular votes in all 50 states. Thompson, along with former Illinois governor Jim Edgar (R) and former Iowa governor Chet Culver (D) are part of a bipartisan coalition that has endorsed the National Popular Vote that would go into effect if states representing 270 electoral votes pass legislation. The National Popular Vote bill has been signed into law in seven states — Maryland,...
  • Why Are Conservatives Supporting the National Popular Vote?

    06/24/2011 7:57:17 AM PDT · by Walter Scott Hudson · 108 replies
    Fightin Words ^ | June 24, 2011 | Walter Hudson
    Attracting some of the hardest of hardcore politicos to a cold and rainy pavilion in South Saint Paul, the Republican Liberty Caucus hosted a town hall style forum Wednesday evening. The subject was a state-by-state initiative to establish a National Popular Vote for the office of President of the United States. This is a controversial issue among conservatives and libertarians which I have come down on the unpopular side of. I haven’t wholly endorsed NPV. I have urged Tea Partiers to take an objective look at what it could do for Minnesota. However, before we can seriously analyze the idea,...
  • Electoral College should be scrapped [BARF ALERT]

    05/22/2011 10:38:05 AM PDT · by thecodont · 53 replies
    San Francisco Chronicle / ^ | Sunday, May 22, 2011 | John Diaz
    The Electoral College system never seemed fair to me. The possibility that someone other than the candidate with the most votes could end up president of the United States seemed undemocratic on its face - and all the more indefensible considering that one of the very reasons for its creation was the framers' wariness about delegating such a critical decision to the unwashed masses. Other rationales for this indirect election of the president included the protection of all states' active participation at a time when travel and communications restraints made a truly national campaign impractical. Read more:
  • Tea Partiers Should Take a Good Look at National Popular Vote

    05/17/2011 7:47:56 AM PDT · by Walter Scott Hudson · 91 replies
    Fightin Words ^ | May 17, 2011 | Walter Hudson
    As Tea Party members, it is imperative that we continue to study and understand the U.S. Constitution and the Founders’ intent. That means questioning the status quo, and the existing assumptions of either party. Case in point, H.F. 495 the National Popular Vote bill. This legislation would guarantee the presidency to the winner of the most popular votes in all 50 states. It would do so by allowing states to enter into an interstate compact with one another and would only go into effect when enough states representing 270 electoral votes enter into the agreement. Why should the Tea Party...
  • America Moving Towards Abolishment of Electoral College

    04/14/2011 8:07:12 PM PDT · by TheConservativeCitizen · 97 replies
    Conclub ^ | 04-14-11 | Zazu
    The Electoral College, the means by which Americans chose their President throughout the nations history, is facing its most serious challenge yet. Polling shows that 75% of Americans no longer see the value of the institution, and want to switch over to direct democratic elections where the winner of the national popular vote also wins the Presidency. There are two ways of achieving this end. The first, a Constitutional Amendment, is a long and difficult process that requires the approval of 3/4 of the states. However, there exists an alternative method that goes around the Electoral College by abolishing it...
  • CALIFORNIA: Bill aims to add state to popular-vote movement

    04/04/2011 7:43:16 AM PDT · by SmithL · 49 replies
    San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 4/4/11 | Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer
    California is a population powerhouse that's home to 1 out of 8 American voters and a political ATM that pumps millions into presidential campaign coffers. But the state's solid-blue status and election rules make it "irrelevant" in the presidential sweepstakes every four years, state Assemblyman Jerry Hill says.Hill, a San Mateo Democrat, and Republican Assemblyman Brian Nestande of Palm Desert (Riverside County) want to change that. The legislators are part of a growing crowd of bipartisan backers of a nationwide campaign to elect presidents by popular vote. The drive has some powerhouse supporters, including Tom Golisano, the billionaire philanthropist and...
  • Repeal the 17th Amendment?

    08/25/2010 7:07:09 PM PDT · by Tolerance Sucks Rocks · 75 replies
    Outside the Beltway ^ | August 24 ,2010 | Steven L. Taylor
    I should start by acknowledging that repeal of the Seventeenth Amendment is hardly a mainstream issue and certainly not anything likely to come about (which is an understatement). However, the fact that there are people out there seeking its repeal is sufficient to garner comment, especially since said persons were significant enough within factions of the Tea Party movement to actually get some Senate candidates to state that they were in support of the repeal. Further, every once in a while I will get a commenter who is favor a repeal, so it seems worth some discussion.The proximate cause of...
  • Electing president by National Popular Vote a bad idea

    08/14/2010 9:21:12 PM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet · 19 replies
    The Stoneham Sun ^ | August 14, 2010 | Mass. State Senator Richard Tisei (R-3rd Middlesex District, Minority Leader)
    Election Night 2012. President Barack Obama has easily won the backing of Massachusetts’ voters for a second term in office, but Republican Sarah Palin, riding a national wave of anti-incumbent sentiment, captures a narrow lead in the popular vote. As a result, Massachusetts’ 12 electoral votes go to … Sarah Palin, and with those 12 votes, Palin is elected president. Sound impossible? Not under a National Popular Vote system, which Massachusetts is one step closer to implementing now that Gov. Patrick has signed legislation authorizing the commonwealth to join a multi-state compact to change the way we elect the president....
  • Massachusetts for Palin?

    07/31/2010 8:13:03 PM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet · 41 replies · 4+ views
    The Boston Globe ^ | August 1, 2010 | Jeff Jacoby
    IT IS Election Night, 2012. The polls have closed. State by state, the votes are being counted, and gradually it becomes clear, to the bottomless horror of some voters and the unbridled delight of others, that Sarah Palin, the Republican presidential nominee, has bested President Barack Obama in the popular vote nationwide. In Massachusetts, where Obama crushed Palin in a 79 percent landslide — the most lopsidedly anti-Palin vote of any state — “bottomless horror’’ doesn’t begin to describe the political reaction. For in 2010, Massachusetts joined the National Popular Vote compact, making a commitment to cast all of its...
  • Mass. Senate enacts bill to replace Electoral College with popular vote

    07/31/2010 2:34:58 PM PDT · by betty boop · 55 replies · 2+ views
    Mass ^ | July 28, 2010 | Associated Press
    BOSTON — The Massachusetts Senate has enacted a bill that would give the state's Electoral College votes to the presidential candidate who wins the national popular vote. The bill enacted by the Senate 28-9 Tuesday is part of a nationwide effort to secure the agreement of enough states so the winner of the national popular vote would be guaranteed to win the presidency. The bill will now be sent to Gov. Deval Patrick, who has said in the past he supports the bill.
  • Massachusetts passes bill awarding electoral votes to winner of national popular vote

    07/28/2010 1:59:28 PM PDT · by SeekAndFind · 74 replies · 3+ views
    Hotair ^ | 07/28/2010 | Allahpundit
    Alternate headline: “Massachusetts disenfranchises self.” Senate minority leader Richard Tisei said the state was meddling with a system that was “tried and true” since the founding of the country.“We’ve had a lot of bad ideas come through this chamber over the years, but this is going to be one of the worst ideas that has surfaced and actually garnered some support,” said Tisei, who is also the Republican candidate for lieutenant governor.The bill, which passed on a 28-to-9 vote, now heads to Democratic Governor Deval Patrick’s desk. The governor has said in the past that he supports the bill, said...
  • National Popular Vote Bill Passes Nevada Assembly

    04/21/2009 10:44:42 PM PDT · by Repub4bush · 52 replies · 1,303+ views
    KXNT 840AM radio ^ | April 21st, 2009
    On April 21, the Nevada Assembly passed HB 413, the National Popular Vote Plan bill. The vote was 27-14. I heard this, this evening on Casey Hendrickson with Heather Kydd Live! The NV Assembly passed this with 27 Dems voting for and the 14 Repubs voting no. This vote just happened late this afternoon in Carson City! This bill says that in the General Presidential Election, Nevada's Electoral votes will not go to the Candidate who won in Nevada, but the the National popular vote of the nation. I can't find a news source to quote at this time. I...
  • Group gains against Electoral College

    04/07/2009 12:05:23 PM PDT · by BGHater · 24 replies · 978+ views
    The Washington Times ^ | 06 Apr 2009 | Valerie Richardson
    Seeks power of popular vote A movement to bypass the Electoral College and elect the president based on the popular vote is gaining steam, racking up almost one-fifth of the support needed to trigger the plan. National Popular Vote, a California-based group formed in 2006, has won commitments from four states to award their electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote. Those four states — Maryland, New Jersey, Illinois and Hawaii — have 50 electoral votes among them. The goal is for states with a total of 270 electoral votes to enter into a compact in which they...
  • National Popular Vote bill introduces another way to choose a leader

    11/16/2008 2:45:18 PM PST · by presidio9 · 38 replies · 1,273+ views
    GateHouse News Service ^ | Sun Nov 16, 2008 | Jennifer Fusco
    How would you like to have your state's vote count a little differently when it comes to presidential elections? Under a recent proposal sponsored by New York state Sen. Joseph Griffo, R-Rome, the country’s popular vote would be the deciding factor of where some states’ Electoral College votes would go when it comes to choosing future U.S. presidents. The National Popular Vote bill, which has been introduced into both the New York state Assembly and Senate, would guarantee that the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states will win the presidency, Griffo said. Any state...
  • How McCain Can Win Electoral College And Lose Popular Vote

    11/03/2008 7:50:44 PM PST · by Michael Eden · 15 replies · 1,362+ views
    American Sentinel ^ | November 3, 2008 | Michael Eden
    There are a number of solidly blue large states that will drive up the tally of Obama's popular vote support. California, New York, and Illinois are examples of states that should easily go to Obama by huge margins. But winning one state by a big margin in an all or nothing state doesn't mean any more in the Presidential contest than winning that state by one single vote. We are a nation that decides Presidents by an electoral college system that is based on building a coalition of states that results in at least 270 electoral college votes. Any combination...
  • Can Obama win popular vote but lose election?

    11/03/2008 2:15:05 PM PST · by COUNTrecount · 56 replies · 2,192+ views
    Yahoo ^ | Nov. 3, 2008 | LIZ SIDOTI
    WASHINGTON – It's a nightmare scenario for Democrats — their nominee Barack Obama winning the popular vote while Republican John McCain ekes out an Electoral College victory. Sure, McCain trails in every recent national poll. Sure, surveys show that Obama leads in the race to reach the requisite 270 electoral votes to win the presidency. Sure, chances of Republicans retaining the White House are remote. But some last-minute state polls show the GOP nominee closing the gap in key states — Republican turf of Virginia, Florida and Ohio among them, and Democratic-leaning Pennsylvania, too. If the tightening polls are correct...
  • How Many Blue States Require Electoral Votes To Go To Nationwide Popular Vote Winner? (Vanity)

    09/14/2008 12:32:43 PM PDT · by goldstategop · 46 replies · 812+ views
    This may the sleeper issue of the election. The MSM and the Democrats have forgotten all about it. A number of Blue States passed laws requiring the state's electoral votes to be awarded to the nationwide popular vote winner REGARDLESS of who actually wins the statewide popular vote. Please list them here in this thread!
  • Clinton die-hards want floor vote at convention

    07/14/2008 6:47:16 PM PDT · by melt · 75 replies · 139+ views ^ | 7/14/08 | Alex Koppelman
    CQ Politics reported Sunday on the efforts of two supporters of Hillary Clinton, who've formed the Denver Group, a 527 organization that will lobby -- among other things -- for Clinton's name to be included in the roll call vote at the Democratic convention this summer. As the Huffington Post's Tom Edsall notes, the two people behind the Denver Group -- Heidi Li Feldman, a Georgetown Law professor, and Marc Rubin, who works in advertising -- also placed an ad in the Chicago Tribune in which they said, "Senator Clinton's name must be put in nomination. Her supporters must be...
  • Liberals States Trying To Circumvent Electoral College

    07/12/2008 8:57:33 AM PDT · by Bill Dupray · 30 replies · 86+ views
    The Patriot Room ^ | July 12, 2008 | Bill Dupray
    Backers of the popular vote do not seek to amend the Constitution; they know this is a nonstarter. Instead, a growing "National Popular Vote" (NPV) movement wants state legislatures to instruct their electors to vote for the winner of the greatest number of popular votes in the national election -- regardless of the ballots cast by voters in their own states. Massachusetts (12 electoral votes) may enact an NPV law as early as next week. Illinois, Maryland, New Jersey and Hawaii (with a total of 50 electoral votes) have already signed on. It's being considered in North Carolina, Rhode Island...
  • Popular Vote Watch: Puerto Rico Democratic Primary LIVE Thread

    05/31/2008 10:40:14 PM PDT · by SilvieWaldorfMD · 104 replies · 647+ views
    Today is Sunday, June 1st and the Puerto Rico primary voting takes place from 8:00 a.m. until 3:00 p.m. ET. Welcome to the only forum on the web in the mainland United States (that I know of!) monitoring LIVE all the details, voting, exit polling and results for today’s Puerto Rico Democratic primary! Many thanks to Jim Robinson and all of you at for your support! Will Hillary’s popular vote tally move up substantially after today’s primary? After all, there are over 2 million Puerto Ricans eligible to vote, and there’s usually an 80-85% percent voting turnout on the...
  • NJ nears undermining Electoral College

    01/03/2008 4:18:41 PM PST · by WOBBLY BOB · 129 replies · 111+ views
    pioneer press/ap ^ | 1-3-08 | TOM HESTER Jr.
    TRENTON, N.J.—New Jersey is close to entering a compact that would eliminate the power of the Electoral College to choose a president if enough states endorse the idea. The state Senate voted Thursday to approve delivering the state's 15 electoral votes for president to the winner of the national popular vote. The Assembly approved the measure in December and needs Gov. Jon S. Corzine's signature to become law. "The bill is subject to a thorough review, but Gov. Corzine has long been a supporter of this concept," Corzine spokesman Jim Gardner said. The measure could result in the electoral votes...
  • Popular Vote Campaign courts Massachusetts

    09/21/2007 6:15:49 AM PDT · by Maceman · 19 replies · 158+ views
    Metrowest Daily News (Metrowest Boston) ^ | September 21, 2007 | By Lindsey Parietti/Daily News staff
    Leaders of a national campaign to elect the president by popular vote are hoping to gain ground in Massachusetts, a state proponents say has largely been ignored by presidential candidates who spend most of their time and money in states that don't have a strong party allegiance. Although leaders of the National Popular Vote Campaign say the issue is resonating with voters across the country, local lawmakers are less than enthusiastic about the proposed legislation. If Massachusetts joins Maryland, the first state to sign the inter-state compact into law, it would have to cast its 12 Electoral College votes for...
  • In voting to end electoral college, Maryland dares to go where Schwarzenegger wouldn't

    04/12/2007 8:41:31 PM PDT · by FairOpinion · 50 replies · 1,709+ views
    Los Angeles Times ^ | April 12, 2007 | George Skelton:
    The governor of Maryland did Tuesday what the governor of California should have done last fall: sign a bill making his state the first to begin junking the electoral college. At least, chuck the electoral college as it has evolved. Circumvent the relic, render it moot and elect America's president by popular vote. The bill makes Maryland the first state to sign an interstate compact that obligates each signatory to cast all its electoral votes for the presidential candidate who wins the national popular vote. The compact won't go into effect unless it's signed by enough states to comprise a...
  • Popular vote movement makes headway [junk the Electoral College......]

    01/16/2007 10:33:36 AM PST · by Sub-Driver · 228 replies · 3,863+ views
    Popular vote movement makes headway By DALE WETZEL, Associated Press Writer 12 minutes ago A movement to essentially junk the Electoral College and award the presidency to the winner of the nationwide popular vote is making some headway in states large and small — including, somewhat improbably, North Dakota. The National Popular Vote movement is aimed at preventing a repeat of 2000, when Democrat Al Gore lost despite getting more votes than George W. Bush. Backers are asking states to change their laws to award their electoral votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote nationally. A bill to...
  • Vanity: Liberals attempt overthrow of US Constitution

    09/22/2006 11:15:24 AM PDT · by Thanatos · 2 replies · 741+ views
    Vanity | 9-22-06 | Thanatos
    Who are "They"? They are 5th Columnist who have invaded and taken over the Democrat Party and who declare themselves "Progressives", "Moderates", and "Liberals", "They" are socialist who want the destruction of the US Government, Anti-American international forces who hate the idea of an American Super-Power and the will to defend Freedom and Liberty. "They" are those who are from the Left-Side of the Spectrum, "They" are people who are so far to the left that Communist and National Socialist look like Far Right Wingers. What are they doing? They are attempting to "Bypass" the constitution and not allow states...
  • CA: Innovator Devises Way Around Electoral College (Veto this Arnold!)

    09/21/2006 11:26:10 PM PDT · by calcowgirl · 108 replies · 1,853+ views
    NEW YORK TIMES ^ | September 22, 2006 | Rick Lyman
    In his early 20’s, John R. Koza and fellow graduate students invented a brutally complicated board game based on the Electoral College ... Now, a 63-year-old eminence among computer scientists who teaches genetic programming at Stanford, Dr. Koza has decided to top off things with an end run on the Constitution. He has concocted a plan for states to skirt the Electoral College system legally to insure the election of whichever presidential candidate receives the most votes nationwide. The first fruit of his effort, a bill approved by the California legislature that would allocate the state’s 55 electoral votes to...
  • Popular vote gets thumbs up in Calif. [a way of amending the Constitution through the backdoor....]

    08/31/2006 6:51:49 AM PDT · by Sub-Driver · 58 replies · 805+ views
    Popular vote gets thumbs up in Calif. By ROBIN HINDERY, Associated Press Writer 14 minutes ago The California Legislature passed a bill that would give California's 55 electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote, rather than the candidate who captured the state — but for now, the measure stands a slim chance of becoming reality. That's because it could go into effect only if states with a combined total of 270 electoral votes — the number now required to win the presidency — agree to the same process. Similar legislation is pending in Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana and...