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  • The interpretation of Vatican II and its connection with the current crisis of the Church

    07/21/2017 6:51:21 AM PDT · by Petrosius · 8 replies
    Rorate Caeli ^ | July 21, 2017 | Bishop Athanasius Schneider
    [CATHOLIC CAUCUS] The current situation of the unprecedented crisis of the Church is comparable with the general crisis in the 4th century, when the Arianism had contaminated the overwhelming majority of the episcopacy, taking a dominant position in the life of the Church. We must seek to address this current situation on the one hand with realism and, on the other hand, with a supernatural spirit – with a profound love for the Church, our mother, who is suffering the Passion of Christ because of this tremendous and general doctrinal, liturgical and pastoral confusion. We must renew our faith in...
  • Pre-Vatican II [Non Caucus Open thread]

    06/11/2017 12:57:49 PM PDT · by Trad Bishop · 95 replies
    First of all, today is the Feast Day of the Blessed Trinity, and so we would wish all of you a Happy Feast Day, and in particular we would wish the Eternal Father a Happy Father's Day! For those who are unaware or need to be reminded, belief in a Trinitarian God, that is Three Persons, One God, comes to us from our elder brothers and sisters in the faith, the Jews. The belief in the Trinitarian God as described is the universally accepted criteria to receive and accept the designation as a true Christian. So we Catholics should be...
  • Vortex: Agents of the Devil

    08/24/2016 11:05:49 AM PDT · by Salvation · 28 replies
    ChurchMilitant.com ^ | 08-23-16 | Michael Voris
    Video and Transcript: The Church has reached the tipping point in America where there are more Vatican II Catholics than those born before Vatican II. And it is having a dramatic effect in the Church. The latest research shows that 64 percent — almost two out of every three American Catholics — was born just before the Second Vatican Council or after. The dividing line is the year 1961 (and happens to be my birth year). Two out of every three Catholics therefore have no living memory or experience of the Church how it was before the Council. My generation...
  • Pope Emeritus Benedict breaks silence: speaks of ‘deep crisis’ facing Church post-Vatican II

    03/16/2016 2:41:20 PM PDT · by NYer · 31 replies
    Life Site News ^ | March 16, 2016 | Maike Hickson
    March 16, 2016 (LifeSiteNews.com) -- On March 16, speaking publicly on a rare occasion, Pope Benedict XVI gave an interview to Avvenire, the daily newspaper of the Italian Bishops' Conference, in which he spoke of a “two-sided deep crisis” the Church is facing in the wake of the Second Vatican Council. The report has already hit Germany courtesy of Vaticanist Guiseppe Nardi, of the German Catholic news website Katholisches.info. Pope Benedict reminds us of the formerly indispensable Catholic conviction of the possibility of the loss of eternal salvation, or that people go to hell: The missionaries of the 16th...
  • Michigan Bishop Inaugurates Program to Have Chant at All Parishes

    01/31/2016 1:45:08 PM PST · by marshmallow · 22 replies
    Bishop John Doerfler of Marquette, Michigan, has issued directions for all parishes in the diocese to institute programs that will lead to the congregation chanting the Ordinary parts of the Mass. Following up on the work of his predecessor in Marquette, then-Bishop Alexander Sample (who is now Archbishop of Portland, Oregon), Bishop Doerfler has called for the action to carry out the vision of Vatican II, which encouraged the use of Gregorian chant and congregational involvement in the singing. In a pastoral letter released in 2013, Bishop Sample had also called attention to the Council's directives on liturgical music, as...
  • On Park Avenue, a Picture of the Catholic Church Divided [Opposing Interpretations of Vatican II]

    07/27/2015 11:06:26 AM PDT · by SeekAndFind · 3 replies
    National Review ^ | 07/27/2015 | by NICHOLAS FRANKOVICH
    Two opposing interpretations of the Second Vatican Council divide the Catholic Church. This divide is more complex than the casual observer tends to appreciate. Within the complex divide, however, is a clear, simple divide: the familiar quarrel between the Ancients and the Moderns. Each of the two parties is marked by a definite taste in liturgy, music, architecture, and art. The Eucharist being “the source and summit of the Christian life,” it should come as no surprise that the central object of disagreement between the Catholic Ancients and the Catholic Moderns is the Mass. In the Roman rite, it can...
  • A Look at the “Actual Mass” of Vatican II: the 1965 Missal

    01/29/2015 7:46:27 AM PST · by Salvation · 47 replies
    Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 01-28-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope
    A Look at the “Actual Mass” of Vatican II: the 1965 Missal By: Msgr. Charles PopeA couple of weeks ago I wrote a cautionary article aimed at my traditionally-minded brethren saying, among other things, that we ought to be careful in identifying the Ordinary Form of the Mass (1970 Missal and beyond) as the “Mass of Vatican II.”  I will not reproduce that whole article here. I will only recall three points:1. The Mass was already undergoing significant changes, beginning in the 1940s and picking up speed through the 1950s. More changes were planned by the Vatican before the Second Vatican...
  • If the Second Vatican Council Had Never Happened, Would We Still Have a “New Mass?” … Quite Possibly

    01/07/2015 9:09:46 AM PST · by Salvation · 23 replies
    Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 01-06-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope
    If the Second Vatican Council Had Never Happened, Would We Still Have a “New Mass?” … Quite Possibly By: Msgr. Charles PopeOne of the unfortunate couplings with those who lament the loss of the “pre-Conciliar” Mass (a.k.a. Traditional Latin Mass (TLM), Extraordinary Form, 1962 Missal, etc.) is the linking of the “New Mass” (a.k.a. Ordinary Form) wholly with the Second Vatican Council. This connection, while understandable given the emergence of the Ordinary Form just after the Council, is too simplistic and is unhelpful for a number of reasons. Without the Second Vatican Council, would the Ordinary Form of the Mass be...
  • Modernist Maniacs: Tradition Trapped in The Vortex

    02/09/2015 5:44:09 PM PST · by BlatherNaut · 4 replies
    The Remnant Forum ^ | 2/8/15 | The Remnant
    New Coke/New Mass: As the situation in the Catholic Church reaches crisis levels, the lonely stand taken by Traditionalists such as Lefebvre & Davies forty years ago should be fully vindicated. So why is history being rewritten? Why are the traditionalists being 'airbrushed' out of the picture? Ferrara and Matt discuss.
  • 11 Quotes that Explode the “Spirit of Vatican II”

    11/18/2014 8:59:41 AM PST · by millegan · 16 replies
    ChurchPOP ^ | 2014 | ChurchPOP
    “[O]ften men, deceived by the Evil One, have become vain in their reasonings and have exchanged the truth of God for a lie, serving the creature rather than the Creator. [...] By the proclamation of the Gospel… [the Church] gives [non-Christians] the dispositions necessary for baptism, snatches them from the slavery of error and of idols and incorporates them in Christ…” Sound like something from the superstitious medieval Church? Actually, it’s a quote from the Second Vatican Council (Lumen gentium, 16-17; promulgated in 1964).
  • A SIMPLE, COMMON SENSE REBUTTAL to SSPX, SSPV and CMRI

    07/21/2007 6:19:13 AM PDT · by JosephJames · 48 replies · 1,534+ views
    My own work ^ | June 29, 2007 | Joseph Dwight
    The following article (with the university class reference documents) was written with the motive to help my sister and her husband, with seven children, to leave the traditionalist groups SSPX, SSPV and CMRI and to return to the one, true Catholic Church. If you want the reference documents (Ecclesiology.doc, Religious-Freedom.doc, Psy-Cult.doc and Subsists.doc), send an email to: josephdwight@hotmail.com; please specify if you want the documents in plain text format or MSWord format with the footnotes incorporated, or in one document all together in either format. A SIMPLE, COMMON SENSE REBUTTAL to SSPX, SSPV and CMRI When I was younger my...
  • In 2014, how can grown men write this with a straight face? "Vatican II was a new Pentecost ... ."

    06/21/2014 6:51:12 PM PDT · by ebb tide · 44 replies
    rorate caeli ^ | June 21, 2014 | New Catholic
    In 2014, how can grown men write this with a straight face? International Theological Commission of the Catholic Church The Church had one Pentecost. One. The Church does not need new foundations, she is not a country in search of new constitutional orders. Enough is enough: 50 years of collapse of the sensus catholicus, collapse of Catholic life in all countries where the Church was firmly established in Europe and the Americas, near-disappearance of all Catholic communities across the Middle East (in this case, mostly through no fault of the hierarchy, but still indicating that speaking of a "new Pentecost"...
  • Rodriguez Carballo Lets the Cat out of the Bag: “Fidelity to the Council is Not Negotiable"

    05/08/2014 5:08:11 PM PDT · by ebb tide · 3 replies
    The Eponymous Flower ^ | May 7, 2014 | Giuseppe Nardi
    (Barcelona / Rome) Does the Congregation of Religious suffer from a villainous portrait of tradition? This question has hung in the air since last weekend. The Franciscan José Rodriguez Carballo, for a year secretary of the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life, participated in a Conference of Religious of Catalonia. In his speech he delivered last Saturday without directly mentioning the Order by name, gave a first official hint as to why the Franciscans of the Immaculate have been reprimanded by his Congregation. The reason implied much to the young religious Order, and is of...
  • Pope Paul VI: Next Contestant on the Santo Subito Show

    04/28/2014 10:22:50 AM PDT · by BlatherNaut · 22 replies
    The Remnant ^ | 4/24/14 | Michael Matt
    But, wait, there’s more! According to La Stampa, Pope Paul VI has reportedly been penciled in for beatification this coming fall at the conclusion of the Synod of Bishops in Rome. Yes, that’s right—Paul VI! Remember him? That vague, sort of nondescript pontiff who made up for negligible personal magnetism with an almost fanatical penchant for novelty. There is no particular cult associated with his cause, of course, other than among a few aging ecclesiastical hippies inside the Vatican who are evidently bound and determined to nominate their pal Paul for a Halo Award, come hell or high water. Something...
  • Why is Vatican II So Vexing?

    01/15/2014 7:26:37 AM PST · by BlatherNaut · 28 replies
    New Liturgical Movement ^ | 1/13/14 | Peter Kwasniewski
    "...My theory is that it is precisely those who have abused Vatican II by continually ignoring or even counterfeiting its teaching who have produced a situation in which the same Council is becoming increasingly distant, wearisome, vexed, and irrelevant. For example, had there been a clear and humble acceptance of the teaching of Sacrosanctum Concilium, and, therefore, had the Church been free from widespread liturgical abuses and the hermeneutic of rupture that is still the modus operandi of most parish communities, there can be no question that the traditionalist movement would have spent far less of its time critiquing Vatican...
  • How ignoring two little words has devastated evangelization

    11/27/2012 12:34:52 PM PST · by NYer · 12 replies
    Archdiocese of Washington ^ | November 26, 2012 | Msgr. Charles Pope
    Just two little words in a carefully written text of the Second Vatican Council carry tremendous significance in terms of the emphasis that text was meant to convey. Two little words, so easily overlooked, add urgency to the task for evangelization, and usher in a reminder of why the task of the Church in announcing Jesus Christ is so critical.What are these words? Simply these:“But often….”Perhaps you are less than amazed and wonder what they could have to do with evangelization, let alone urgency. These words occur in a critical text of the Second Vatican Council, Lumen Gentium # 16,...
  • Pp Francis declares support for BXVI’s vision of Church.. rejects 'Spirit of Vat II' (Shortened)

    11/20/2013 5:44:31 PM PST · by Mrs. Don-o · 10 replies
    Catholic Herald (UK) ^ | 19 November 2013 | William Oddie
    An important letter, from Pope Francis to Archbishop Agostino Marchetto, has just been published. It includes the following: “With these lines I wish to be close to you and join myself to the act of presentation of the book 'Pontifical primacy and epicopate: from the first millennium to the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council.' [The book is a collection of essays, some by Archbishop Marchetto, in his honour]. I beg you to consider myself spiritually present [there]… “You have made your love for the Church manifest in many ways… above all it is manifest in all your purity in the...
  • THE IMPORTANCE OF THE NEW EVANGELIZATION

    10/29/2013 4:58:37 PM PDT · by ebb tide · 2 replies
    Whispers in the Loggia ^ | October 25, 2013 | Cardinal Óscar Andrés Rodríguez Maradiaga SDB
    THE IMPORTANCE OF THE NEW EVANGELIZATION Cardinal Óscar Andrés Rodríguez Maradiaga SDB Archbishop of Tegucigalpa University of Dallas Ministry Conference Irving Convention Center 1. Introduction: It is not possible to talk about the Church, or about the Church today, without referring to the crucial moment in contemporary history that Vatican II has been for her, both as an event of grace and a paradigmatic reference. The Church is rising. There is a significant increment of the faith in Africa, where the Church has grown tremendously during the 20th century. Such vitality can also be seen in some sectors of the...
  • The Pope's Interview

    09/21/2013 8:46:04 AM PDT · by ebb tide · 12 replies
    Harvesting the Fruit of Vatican II ^ | September 20, 2013 | Louie Verrecchio
    The pope’s nearly 11,000 word interview with America Magazine will be debated for months. My contribution to that discussion begins with the following ten takeaways. May I first beg your forgiveness for my failure to hold up for applause every expression offered by the pope that resembles solid Catholic teaching? Nothing personal; that’s just me. I’m not in the habit of alerting my mechanic every time my truck starts either. 1. Pope Francis is very uncomfortable wielding authority. “I found myself provincial (in a position of authority in the Jesuit order) when I was still very young. I was only...
  • The Pope's Interview: A Preface

    09/21/2013 8:38:14 AM PDT · by ebb tide · 3 replies
    Harvesting the Fruit of Vatican II ^ | September 20, 2013 | Louie Verreccho
    Before attempting to get my hands around the pope’s interview with America Magazine, I’d like to make two preliminary observations: Number one, informal papal interviews are a bad idea. The voice of the pope is the most powerful force on earth. Whenever the Vicar of Christ speaks publicly, it is no exaggeration to say that his words carry the potential to alter the course of human history. This is the truth by virtue of He whom the Roman Pontiff represents, Christ the King who rules over all things, and it remains the truth even for a pope who prefers instead...