“Mark your calendars!”
Why?
There was nothing noble about the Confederacy. Nothing.
You want to discuss this, or have you made up your Yankee mind? I guess there is nothing wrong with the USA today? The states area joke.
And what has the Yankee wrought? An overwhelming federal state that is just about to crush every thing I hold precious.
Mr. Lincoln you freed the slaves which was right, however, in doing so we are all now to be slaves of the federal state? A surgeon doesn't kill the patient while declaring the surgery a success?
This is going to be interesting.
Can’t wait to watch the spleen venting.
I does really tweak liberal communists though.
Burn any heretics lately, O noble friend?
(Two can play at this game)
Slavery is what, I assume, you are referring to as not being “noble”..In this, I agree...But what you don’t seem to understand is that slavery was a minor issue in the War Between the States until Lincoln decided to make it a major issue to create a disruption in the Confederacy. The main issue in the war was the uneven trade values between the inustrial north and the agricultural south. The north asked exhorbitant prices for it’s manufactured goods and refused to pay but minimumal prices for the agricultural products of the south...That’s it in a nutshell...
I find nothing noble or romantic about the confederacy either. I do love the south though.
And just what was noble about the slave holding states that remained in the Union, Delaware, Maryland, Missouri and Kentucky, being aloud to keep their slaves? All for the purpose of keeping them in the Union, so they would not join their brothers in the South.
I have heard the same about Irish Catholics... but most know better.
“There was nothing noble about the Confederacy. Nothing.”
Certainly far more noble than your pathetic Northern history classes have taught you.
Did they tell you that the Emancipation Proclaimation was a last ditch effort to keep the Northern war effort going?
Did they tell you that while the war was going on SLAVES were being used to build in Washington DC?
Did they tell you of the blatant abuse of power used by Northern armies against the blacks?
Did they?
If they didn’t, perhaps you should do some investigating on your own before you trash another’s heritage.
Can we also surmise that there is nothing noble about being "IrishCatholic" either?
I have been having the same thoughts about Abraham Lincoln.
Well Good Ole Honest Abe wasn't too Noble himself. He didn't like blacks. He didn't really care for them. He didn't want to be with them. He was a Segregationist actually. Ever hear of U.S.C.T.? Go visit a National Cemetery where Civil War Vets lay at rest. Notice one side for white one side for black. Also ignore the fact that till the war started slavery was still legal in a few northern states.
The Civil War was fought over two major issues. States Rights and the economy of the day. Northern Industrialist has Good Old Honest Abe in their control. The south was thriving and becoming a competitive threat. Slavery in the north AFTER the factories and automation was developed on the free labor of blacks was a liability to the corporations as owning them meant having to care for them also. It was abolished in the north because owning slaves was a monetary liability just as if left alone it would have been in Dixie within a decade or two. It had little to do with the conscience of our leaders of the day.
The Civil War kept slavery going in the south for decades afterward only then it was called the company store. Meaning places like rural coal towns where men worked for wages far below what the goods {food, clothing, housing etc,} at the company store sold for{the only stores for miles as the companies owned the land for miles} existed. Automation and not any written laws or declarations finally ended this practice.
The Republican Party was born and began shredding the Constitution and destroying States Rights and the dog has now along with Liberal Dems returned to it's own vomit. Used to be you wanted to find a Conservative you had to find a Democrat in the southern states. Now if you want to find a Liberal just go north of the Mason Dixon and many have a -R following their names as well asquite a few in the south.
As for the leaders of the CSA especially the military commanders? Many were of the high ranking were West Point graduates and laid out some of the best battle plans of the era. The problems came when the CSA political leadership during the war became as corrupt as the Washington DC political leadership. Such blunders as Braxton Bragg not being relieved of command early on. He alone by not listening to his more successful than he was Field Commanders cost the south plenty. A Confederate General of lower rank showing up Bragg on the Battlefield was a career ending act. Braggs sucesses were actually those of his underlings.
If the south had won slavery would have died by the 1890's. Instead the war created an economic and political backlash which lasted into the late 1950's in some parts of Dixie.
Plenty of smaller local wars after the Civil War were fought in Dixie against the government and won. One happened in the East Tennessee mountains where a bunch of coal miners took on the Tennessee Militia and won. They captured it's C.O. The issue was over prision labor taking miners jobs and over saftey issues.
Lincoln is not the Honest benevolent leader P.C. history painted him. He was the original Northern Industrialist Owned Puppet Republican who began us on the course where we are today politically.
As for slavery? The ownership of such was a huge responsibility both economically and morally. Read your Bible to understand that part. When the war ended many former slaves returned to where they were and then both former owner and former slave lived in poverty for decades to come. The slaves had nowhere to go sure not the north because they didn't want them.
Abe Lincoln and the north as such free'd no one but rather paved the way for government to now enslave us all. Slavery comes in all kinds of ways and forms. U.S. history is full of Post Civil War slavery. Behold the newly elected master now pushes leglislation this very hour to accomplish it himself. Political Correctness prohibits anyone calling it for what is really is though.
Three Dixie states went for Obama in the most recent election, thanks to Yankee migration into those previously ignoble states. You should be happy.
“There was nothing noble about the Confederacy. Nothing.”
Well. Only at post #6 and already the South haters show up with their insults and venom. Since you want to play that game, my Scots-Irish ancestors made a career out of kicking Irish ass, from the battles in Ulster to Fredericksburg. Y’all were Pussies.
“There was nothing noble about the Confederacy. Nothing.”
I’m feeling very sympatico with the Confederate cause since Hussein was elected. I’m thinking about heading to Tennessee on June 3 to help them celebrate.