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Electric Gravity in an Electric Universe
Thunderblogs ^ | 8-22-08 | Wallace Thornhill

Posted on 08/28/2008 6:34:55 AM PDT by Renfield

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Excellent article from one of my favorite cutting-edge scientific iconoclasts. Much more at the original article.
1 posted on 08/28/2008 6:34:55 AM PDT by Renfield
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Usually, I read an article like this and think, "I don't know enough. This is probably great stuff and the only reason this sounds like made-up gobbledy-gook is because I haven't studied this subject to the proper depth."

But as I read this particular article, I'm pretty sure that this is made-up gobbledy-gook.

2 posted on 08/28/2008 7:00:25 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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Your favorite "cutting-edge scientific iconoclast" appears to be a proponent of Neo-Velikovskianism. In other words, a pseudoscientific crank.

http://www.geocities.com/kingvegeta80/pseudoscience.html

Given the fact that, despite the neo-Velikovskians' claims to the contrary, the standard stellar model is so successful at explaining the observations while the Electric Star model is rife with problems and outright violations of basic physics, it is understandable why the former enjoys unanimous support in the scientific community, while the latter is considered a pseudoscience.

3 posted on 08/28/2008 7:06:46 AM PDT by rosenfan
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That's just the point...the "standard stellar model" DOESN'T explain many observations sufficiently, as you will see if you read Thornhill's previous posts.

Did you read the entire article?

4 posted on 08/28/2008 7:14:39 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

IMHO there’s a LOT going on on the other side of absolute zero that we (meaning current top quantum physics researchers, whose explanations the rest of us try to get the gist of) don’t know squat about. Science will eventually locate “God”, most likely on the other side of that absolute zero wall, or comfortably hanging out on both sides simultaneously.


5 posted on 08/28/2008 7:21:50 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Renfield
Excellent article from one of my favorite cutting-edge scientific iconoclasts. Much more at the original article.

Really? Do you think so? Every test of general relativity has delivered results that support the theory. Among the assumptions of theory is the assumption that gravity travels at the speed of light.

6 posted on 08/28/2008 7:30:30 AM PDT by mc6809e
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You don’t have to read much of it before some nauseating violation of basic science appears.


7 posted on 08/28/2008 7:33:30 AM PDT by xedude
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Um...huh?


8 posted on 08/28/2008 7:34:25 AM PDT by xedude
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To: Renfield
Newton’s famous law of gravity does not refer to time.

Einstein's law of gravity does refer to time. Einstein's law of gravity is called "General Relativity". In experiments designed to detect differences between Newtonian and relativistic predictions Dr. Einstein has yet to lose.

9 posted on 08/28/2008 7:36:55 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (His Negritude has made his negritude the central theme of this campaign)
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To: Renfield

Thanks for posting that.


10 posted on 08/28/2008 7:58:05 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Renfield
I did not read the entire article. When a Scientologist asserts that Xenu (dictator of the Galactic Confederacy) brought billions of his people to Earth 75 million years ago in DC-8-like spaceships, stacked them around volcanoes and killed them using hydrogen bombs, there's no need to look more closely at their claims.

Likewise, when someone claims that stars aren't powered by nuclear fusion, that the Grand Canyon wasn't formed by erosion but rather in moments by a giant bolt of lightning which was created when another planet was passing nearby, and that the planet Venus was spit out of a planet called "Proto-Saturn", there's no need to look further.

He's a nut.

11 posted on 08/28/2008 8:00:53 AM PDT by rosenfan
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To: Renfield
This phenomenon is the basic operating principle of the flux capacitor.
12 posted on 08/28/2008 8:04:40 AM PDT by starlifter
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Just to clarify, are you saying this “nut” is associated with Scientology?


13 posted on 08/28/2008 8:18:44 AM PDT by BillCompton
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You should read this:

http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=x49g6gsf

The man’s not a nut; he’s exposing flaws in current theory, and goring some sacred cattle in the process.


14 posted on 08/28/2008 8:21:16 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: BillCompton

Thornhill is in no way associated with Scientology. Rosenfan is engaging in a standard tactic of debunkers....red herring arguments and ad-hominem attacks.


15 posted on 08/28/2008 8:22:47 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield
"Thornhill is in no way associated with Scientology. Rosenfan is engaging in a standard tactic of debunkers....red herring arguments and ad-hominem attacks."

Geez. What is wrong with people? Instead of harming Thornhill's credibility, he has damaged his own (if you are in fact correct.) Thanks.
16 posted on 08/28/2008 8:46:34 AM PDT by BillCompton
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Just to clarify, are you saying this “nut” is associated with Scientology?

No, not at all. It was just the first example of weird beliefs that came to mind. It could just as easily been ESP, astrology, creationism, etc.

17 posted on 08/28/2008 8:49:24 AM PDT by rosenfan
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To: Renfield

What does this theory predict and where is the experimental evidence to back it up?


18 posted on 08/28/2008 8:49:56 AM PDT by xedude
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Thornhill is in no way associated with Scientology

I never said he was. I was simply pointing the lack of credibility one has when one advocates crazy beliefs that fly in the face of reality. The "Electric Universe" of Thornhill is one such example. Scientology is another. Feel free to use any other nonsensical system of belief or pseudoscience such as astrology, creationism, Illuminati conspiracy theories, etc.

19 posted on 08/28/2008 8:57:38 AM PDT by rosenfan
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Geez. What is wrong with people? Instead of harming Thornhill's credibility, he has damaged his own (if you are in fact correct.) Thanks.

If I had said he was associated with Scientology, you'd be correct.

Since I didn't, you're not.

20 posted on 08/28/2008 8:59:26 AM PDT by rosenfan
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