Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Bill Maher Thinks Lenin and Stalin Were “Right-Wingers”
David Horowitz's NewsReal Blog ^ | February 14, 2011 | Walter Hudson

Posted on 02/14/2011 10:41:13 PM PST by Walter Scott Hudson

It's not unusual for Bill Maher to accuse his ideological opponents of being flat-earthers. But he took the concept to a new extreme over the weekend in his analysis of history and the political spectrum. According to Maher, when you go too far to the Left, you end up on the Right.

“Both [the Russian and French] revolutions got hijacked by the right-wing – and the Iranian Revolution,” Maher added.

However, Maher explained that you could argue the Russian Revolution was “hijacked by the left-wing,” but due to the nature of it being that far left, it was really right.

“I suppose people would say the Russian Revolution was hijacked by the left-wing,” Maher said. “I think when you go that far left – you’re really the right-wing. I consider Lenin and Stalin right-wingers. Don’t tell Rush Limbaugh.”

It would be intriguing to press Maher further on this point to see exactly what he means, and what informs his perception. No doubt we would find that Maher is working with definitions of Left and Right which are somewhat arbitrary. How else could anyone call Lenin and Stalin right-wingers?

Of course, it's tough to fault Maher for arbitrarily constructing his own political spectrum. It's not as though God created Left and Right. These terms have always been social constructs which have changed in meaning from time to time.

However, there is a contemporary standard which anyone operating on a stage like Maher's ought to adhere to if he cares to be understood. There is no conceivable stretch of that standard which results in Lenin and Stalin as right-wingers.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsrealblog.com ...


TOPICS: History; Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: billmaher; ferretface; josephstalin; politicalspectrum; vladimirlenin
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-31 next last

1 posted on 02/14/2011 10:41:18 PM PST by Walter Scott Hudson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson
Maher is the prototypical autofellator.
2 posted on 02/14/2011 10:42:49 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson

It merely means that Maher really is as naive as he seems.


3 posted on 02/14/2011 10:44:29 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson
...and we consider them, along with national socialist leader Adolf Hitler, left wingers, but whereas we have a credible argument, Maher is just marching in the footsteps of those he pretends not to understand:

"A lie told often enough becomes the truth" - Lenin

4 posted on 02/14/2011 10:45:07 PM PST by americanophile ("The Constitution is the guide which I will never abandon." - George Washington)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

LOL. Maher is somehow on cable, in the far far background. He might as well be assistant manager at Joe’s Taco House. at least more people would hear from him. He is the poster child for “irrelevance”. Schmuck.


5 posted on 02/14/2011 10:45:28 PM PST by NoRedTape
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson

Bill Maher would love this. I wouldn’t give him the ink.


6 posted on 02/14/2011 10:46:15 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson

Didn’t both men support the “withering of the state”? Yep, same as the Tea Party! Bob


7 posted on 02/14/2011 10:47:05 PM PST by alstewartfan ("He's only come to bring another perfect dream." Al Stewart from "Shah of Shahs")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson
Judging by the statements this idiot makes every week, I get the idea that he is just your garden variety media whore. He will say just about anything to make him a headline Monday. Who cares anymore.


8 posted on 02/14/2011 10:49:03 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson

What this means is that Jonah Goldberg has gotten inside Maher’s head.


9 posted on 02/14/2011 10:51:20 PM PST by Yardstick
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson

Banning religion, forced abortions, take over of business, no personal property, no gun ownership. Yup sounds like a conservative to me.


10 posted on 02/14/2011 10:51:32 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson
I found this article awhile ago that seems to indicate that the Russian revolution really did get hijacked:
Terror is fear, Poel Karp, February 8th, 2011
http://www.grani.ru/blogs/free/entries/186016.html

(SNIP)

...The 1918-1920 civil war has been forgotten, but today’s terrorism stems from it. Some say that Abramovich and Berezovsky started the war against the peaceful, accomplished Bolshevik revolution, but they were not around back then. The Tsar would never have give Abramovich or Berezovsky any businesses to manage. Back then the Ryabushinskys and Putilovs were amassing all the wealth, and they were not guilty of the civil war, either. Of course, the Bolsheviks seized power in Petrograd almost peacefully, and made all those wonderful promises that the Tsars never would make: the Land Decree and the Declaration of the Rights of the Peoples of Russia. Most importantly, they held elections to the Constituent Assembly, which the Provisional Government found necessary to delay since only a quarter of the electorate would vote for the Bolsheviks. So, they dispersed the Assembly, and because of the civil war no legitimate government ever appeared in Russia after the revolution.

To Russia’s great misfortune, the Assembly members were mostly civilians who could not stand up to the well-armed Bolsheviks. Deninin resisted, as did Yudenich and Kolchak, but they were not considered members of the Constituent Assembly. The civil war was between a dictatorship waving the flag of democracy, and the Tsarist system, and between the two, the Bolsheviks and the Tsarist rump, Russia was consumed.

Along with the war, however, terror began. It was not a Tsarist officer who shot Vladimir Lenin and the others: they were killed by fellow revolutionaries, by members of Peasant Party, which also used terrorism against the Tsarist government. The Peasant Party, by the way, received most of the popular vote in the Assembly. The Bolsheviks had been trying to introduce a grain surplus appropriation system in the villages, and declared attacks by the peasants to be the work of the Whites, and responded with the Red Terror. The Bolsheviks, betrayers of everyone, feared that the peasants would turn against them, and so they agreed to a compromise: the New Economic Policy (NEP). For a time, terror died down.

By 1922 Lenin was saying: “We retreated for a year. Enough.” A punitive system was invented, ready to transform the peasantry into the agricultural worker class, and in 1927 the Soviet state began practicing mass repression in grain procurement, and became a terrorist state. The exile of millions of peasants from their homelands frightened tens of millions into abandoning farm work. Mutual terror ended, and one-sided terror began. In 1929 the NEP compromise could be abandoned...

11 posted on 02/14/2011 10:58:04 PM PST by struwwelpeter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson

Either Maher is extremely ignorant of philosophy and ideologies or he is extremely evil, because he embraces a lot of the secular atheism that spawned all the most vile leaders in all of man’s history. All leftists—like Hitler. Totalitarian regimes are all on the left.....anarchy is on the right. Our Republic is in between the extremes which is where virtue lies.

The term Right and Left came from England’s Parliament and was all about where people sat. The left has used it to confuse people....by calling the socialist Hitler and Mussolini on the Right....ya, right.


12 posted on 02/14/2011 11:18:16 PM PST by savagesusie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson

Why are the leftist retarded clowns always trying to impress other retarded clowns? There must be a clown city with Bill Maher as their mayor and he drives a clown car to work with all the canned laughter and applause on the radio that he thinks is for him.


13 posted on 02/14/2011 11:35:12 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_fascism


14 posted on 02/14/2011 11:40:28 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson

He’s a royal fool.


15 posted on 02/14/2011 11:43:18 PM PST by Barnacle (Our universities have become enclaves of intellectual inbreeding)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson

In another life Bill Maher would be Madame Defarge, crying “Guillotine!”


16 posted on 02/14/2011 11:56:11 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: americanophile
Nazi Party

The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known in English as the Nazi Party (from the German Nazi, abbreviated from the pronunciation of Nationalsozialist[5]), was a political party in Germany between 1919 and 1945. It was known as the German Workers' Party (DAP) prior to a change of name in 1920.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
______________________________________________________

National Health Care: Medicine in Germany 1918-1945 [Nazi health care]
Does the Modern Bureaucratization of Medicine Risk a Return to the Horrors of National Socialist Medicine?

by Marc S. Micozzi M.D.

Today we are concerned about issues such as doctor-assisted suicide, abortion, the use of fetal tissue, genetic screening, birth control and sterilization, health-care rationing and the ethics of medical research on animals and humans. These subjects are major challenges in both ethics and economics at the end of the twentieth century. But at the beginning of the twentieth century the desire to create a more scientific medical practice and research had already raised the issues of euthanasia, eugenics, and medical experimentation on human subjects. In addition, the increasing involvement of the German government in medical care and funding medical research established the government-medical complex that the National Socialists later used to execute their extermination policies. ..."

http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/national-health-care-medicine-in-germany-1918-1945/

17 posted on 02/14/2011 11:56:33 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson
Image and video hosting by TinyPic
________________________________________________

Michael Moore (quote), from his website, April 14, 2004...

Image and video hosting by TinyPic

"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or 'The Enemy.' They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush?"
[actual quote from Michael Moore (2004). It still appears on his website]
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-04-14
________________________________________________

Image and video hosting by TinyPic

The Communist Party USA (CPUSA):
"We are a party of unity in action. We are an integral part of every struggle and movement for change to eliminate poverty and joblessness, against racism and for full equality. We are participants, initiators and leaders of every movement to make life better now and much better in a socialist future." Yeah, so they supported an oppressive dictator, like the Repubs and Democrats haven't? The CP is still around, has apologized for that whole Stalin thing, and has a quickly growing youth section.
[see: MichaelMoore.com-->Links-->PoliticalAction (bottom of the page--CPUSA promo)]
http://www.michaelmoore.com/links/index.php?linkType=Political%20Action

18 posted on 02/15/2011 12:04:33 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson
Bill Maher's not an intellectual by any standard.


19 posted on 02/15/2011 12:59:44 AM PST by NoLibZone (Obama must be impeached and tried for treason.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Walter Scott Hudson
I once knew an old school young woman from Carolina that lumped communists, socialists, and nazis all under 'REDS'.
20 posted on 02/15/2011 2:58:00 AM PST by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-31 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson