[dr_lew]

It is snowing in Colorado today.

From Operation Sunshine - under the North Pole ( Re USS Nautilus ) : " On 19 June she entered the Chukchi Sea, but was turned back by deep draft ice in those shallow waters."

That was 1958. This year these waters are ice free in mid-May, and have been so at this season in recent years. The North Pole came close to melting in the summer of 2007, and the trend is definitely that way, even if there are reprieves.

Just sayin'

[palmer]

You made a couple of mistakes in the effort to bolster your one good point. The good point is that the ice extent trend is down in the satellite era (since 1979). Your 1958 data point is one point compared to a couple of modern points. That single point was natural variation along with some of the modern data. The reason for that is that local thickness results from local weather patterns. Here's a paper showing those variations: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.172.4878&rep=rep1&type=pdf and the relevant graphs, first ice extent in August which is dropping:

Second, the ice thickness in May which is increasing:

While this data only goes to 2000 it is quite relevant to the "global warming" discussion since that was supposed to be occurring from ~1980 to 2000. Second it shows the extremes of natural variations which is why your single 1958 data point is useless.

[SeaWolf]

Good, the resources of that region will be put on the world market and benefit many. The US excluded as we seem to be adversely affected by the flagellant followers of the Goreian religion.

[FatherofFive]

The North Pole came close to melting in the summer of 2007, and the trend is definitely that way, even if there are reprieves.

We have had ice ages, the ice receeded, came back. All before man.

Man made CO2 is .28% of the atmosphere. NOTHING man does can change the climate. It is a result of what happens on the sun.

Just sayin'