If the Kurds of northern Iraq are fighting the Turks today they got a strange way of combat -- other than the Marxist PKK who have killed scores of people in Turkey since the 1980s.
Please see my reply #2.
RE: Armenians
This is no attempt to mitigate the horror. Even the modern constitutional democratic Republic of Turkey has admitted the horror. But calling it genocide? Here's something on that.
[Excerpt ]"The real purpose of the resolution is not recognition of the Armenian Genocide, but a political struggle – the issue of which side has a larger political capital in Washington. . . . [T]he admission of the Armenian Genocide by Turkey is an issue of secondary importance for us. . . . our lands were seized and our 3,000-year-old culture was destroyed. . . . Therefore, our true demand is compensation for this injustice. . . . Now specialists must study the lawyers’ advice and decide which issue should be submitted to which court, as there is the International Court of Justice, European Court of Human Rights, US Federal Courts, etc. This is a most important issue. It must be studied with all seriousness, because, if we lose in court, Turkey will claim that Armenians have no legal demands."
BTW, I don't like it that it's our Congress / government that Turkey and Armenia are fighting over to get/not get resolutions monthly (almost it seems to me).
Also Armenia and the Ottoman Empire were at war (W.W.I) and I've talked to Turks about this when I lived there. They wonder where is the concern for the tens of thousands (hundreds of thousands?) of Turkish civilians killed by Armenia.
Also why give Germany a pass?
Ottoman Turkey ally Kaiser Wilhelm II had German military stationed in Ottoman Turkey.
[Excerpt] "Dadrian does not accuse Germany of instigating the Armenian genocide; he argues instead that Germany contributed to the genocide through policies that condoned it and that the German government sanctioned German and Turkish officials who participated in the genocide's implementation."
The History of the Armenian Genocide: Ethnic Conflict from the Balkans to Anatolia to the Caucasus
By Vahakn N. Dadrian
http://www.questia.com/library/78126524/the-history-of-the-armenian-genocide-ethnic-conflict
It took him about 20 yrs to write it. I’ve read it. He’s written many books and 100’s of articles in many different languages and that you selected just one in order to indict the Germans over the Turks just isn’t rational nor that you listened only to the Turkish peoples point of view as most of them get their information from government schools who aren’t going to admit they were guilty - many also get their info from the site - the Turkish talltales site - talltales have stolen pictures from the Armenian Genocide site and taken them as their own dead which is why the one can’t copy anything from their website anymore.
As for reading an account by the NYSlimes, that would be like telling me to read that there was no famine in the USSR especially in the Ukraine from the same rag.
Wiki has a halfway decent account:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
This account from an eyewitness from our Ambassador at the Time:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambassador_Morgenthau%27s_Story
I’ve spoken to a number of Kurds and they actually admit they were conned into leading the Ottoman soldiers in the ethnic cleansing of the Armenians. One of the reasons they remain bitter to this day. Do you believe there was an ethnic cleansing of the Greeks from Constantiple?