The thought of blaming the Germans over the Turks has never occurred to me. I merely indicated that I believe that the German military and the Kaiser knew what was happening; some German military protested, some probably looked the other way, and others it appears to me participated.
I honestly believe this statement that I wrote: "Armenia and the Ottoman Empire were at war (W.W.I) . . . Turks . . . wonder where is the concern for the . . . Turkish civilians killed by Armenia."
RE: "As for reading an account by the NYSlimes, that would be like telling me to read that there was no famine in the USSR especially in the Ukraine from the same rag." Duranty wasn't working there at the time.. or at least he was still an office boy. :)
I fully understand the Turks refusal to use the word genocide to label the horrific events. It seems to me that Recognition of the Armenian Genocide by Turkey is a secondary issue - interview with Harut Sassounian. [An Armenian living in southern California.] explains it. It is a public relations ploy to generate more anti-Turkey resolutions worldwide to support legal actions. Let it be settled on the merits of what is known. They live next door to each other, for heavens sake!
Which leads to this: "I don't like it that it's our Congress / government that Turkey and Armenia are fighting over to [not get/get] resolutions monthly (almost it seems to me)."
The wiki articles may be good or not. I rarely consult wiki graffiti. No thanks.
Regardless of it all.. I will still believe the news accounts of the economic ties between Ankara and the Kurdish Region of Northern Iraq. I just hope that the public protests in Turkey lead to the ouster of the AK Party and a return to secular Turkey.
I absolutely insist that the Marxist terrorists PKK and the Kurds of Northern Iraq are not the same.
Thanks for your informative thoughtful response.
I actually prefer wiki “graffiti”(at least one can check their references) to the NYSLimes graffiti and I mentioned Duranty as an example of why they’re slime. These days they meet with their Soros funded Human Rights Watch minions who tell them what to write - some of the reporters/repeaters are met by them at the airport and live in their homes. They’re a joke. It’s like CNN reporting from the their bedroom in the Holiday Inn in Serbia, Lebanon, Iraq...
Please remember the Armenian Christians were a minority as were the Greeks and Assyrians. I hail from a country where strife was rampant and as a minority can vouch that we were repressed in all areas of life with no chance whatsoever of killing thousands of our enemies even if we’d wanted to which we didn’t... The Turks you were talking to were lying. Neither the Armenians, Assyrians or the Greeks had a hope in hell no more than the Christians in the ME today.
Armenian Patriarchate sues Turkey for land
March 20, 2012
Most people think the Armenian Genocide was purely about Turks killing Armenians. However, a prime motivator for the killing of 1.5 million Armenians living in Turkey was greed and the redistribution of wealth. The Ottoman Turkish rulers wanted to take possession of the property belonging to its wealthy Armenian minority. They succeeded.
Throughout the deportation, eyewitness testimonies repeat stories of Turkish officials seeking bribes in the form of gold coins, rugs, jewelry, and so on.
Talaat Pasha (one of the architects of the Armenian Genocide) had the audacity to ask the American Ambassador Henry Morgenthau for the life insurance policies of his victims, because he reasoned the Turkish Government had become the beneficiary of the policies since his victims left no heirs.
Contrary to common belief, not all killings were perpetrated by chetes (criminal gangs) and Turkish soldiers. Townsfolk throughout Anatolia were promised the homes and belongings of their Armenian neighbors. After they were taught to hate the Armenians for being giavurs or gavoors, which means ’infidels’ or ‘non-believers’, it was frighteningly easy to whip the people into frenzied kitchen-knife welding mobs capable of murdering their neighbors.
The Turkish government enabled and encouraged the mass looting that took place everywhere the Armenians had once lived. In many instances, Turkey’s governing leaders relocated Kurds and Muslim peoples from the Balkans and other areas to depopulated Armenian communities (immediately following their mass killing and deportation). The Ottoman Turks’ destruction of its Armenian Christian minority created an ‘instant’ Muslim middle class.
Ottoman government archives containing records of land deeds are not accessible to descendants of the Armenian Turkish citizens who were either killed or expelled from their land. One of the obstacles to Turkey’s recognition of the Armenian Genocide is its fear of reparations.
Many of the Armenian churches not destroyed by the Turks were converted to Mosques. Some Armenian churches (including the sacred Aktamar site) are profitable enterprises employed by Turkey as part of its thriving tourism industry.
Even Mount Ararat, the ancestral homeland and pride of the Armenian people, now lies within Turkey’s borders. A few weeks ago, I saw a Turkish tourism advertisement prominently featuring Mount Ararat with a depiction of Noah’s Ark. Of course, there was no mention of the Armenians, believed to be the descendants of Noah’s son, Japheth.
http://armeniangenocideblog.wordpress.com/tag/american-ambassador-henry-morgenthau/
Ambassador Henry Morgenthau’ written correspondence has been invaluable to the Armenians since the Turks have tried to taint their pictures and continue to revise the history. And I’ve happy to see that the Armenians are taking some action in getting reparations which will never happen but it keeps the Genocide alive.
NB: Obama as a candidate promised that as president he’d acknowledge the genocide - he called the genocide a widely documented fact...yet another of his “talltales”.
Take care