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To: Moonman62

“Drowning was an initial guess by the coroner or the police, which is reasonable. Drawing unreasonable conclusions from it makes some conservatives look like kooks.”

How do you prove “heart arrhythmia”?

According to those closest to here she had no heart problems.

Pretty easy to prove or disprove drowning.

So, we are to believe that someone with no prior heart problems, who BTW was instrumental in “proving” Obama’s citizenship, just happened to be involved in an airplane crash. And after the crash, became unresponsive. So her assistant just let her drift away? And, lo and behold, was the only passenger who had any problems? And the original cause of death, drowning, was replaced by the verdict of heart arrhythmia. A cause of death that can’t be proven or disproven.

I have no idea what happened. I do know that first responders said she drowned. Wearing a life jacket. But that’s not suspicious? She was also, from what I understand an accomplished swimmer. I could understand if someone who could not swim would become panicked floating in the ocean wearing a life jacket. But an accomplished swimmer? And there seems to be, from official reports, a need to be sure everyone knows that she was “elderly”. 65 is elderly? I guess. I guess the elderly can’t swim either. With a life jacket.

There is no doubt that the original cause of death was drowning. And there is no doubt that it was changed. Changed to a cause that cannot be disproved. Was it changed because drowning, based on the circumstances, made no sense? Or was it based on facts? Seeing how a cause of death by heart arrhythmia is basically just a wild ass guess in this case I would guess that there is cause for suspicion. And calling people who question this “kooks” sounds pretty trollish to me.

Did you even read the report?


43 posted on 10/29/2014 8:19:08 AM PDT by saleman (?)
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To: saleman

The M.E. says that Fuddy could not swim. But that is not important because the life vest kept her afloat. No one had to swim to survive.


44 posted on 10/29/2014 8:23:31 AM PDT by ethical
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To: saleman

How do you prove “heart arrhythmia”?

According to those closest to here she had no heart problems.

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An enlarged heart is a very good indicator. Many people have the condition and don’t even know it. She could have had a previous silent heart attack, too.


50 posted on 10/29/2014 8:41:20 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: saleman
It's very hard to drown wearing a life jacket especially when you're a swimmer and been around the water your entire life. Stressed after a plane crash, fine initially, but everyone is fine and you're within sight of the shore and a plane has spotted you almost immediately. No, there's nothing to stress about. Everyone is buddied up and after the first few minutes you're all breathing sighs of relief and laughing about it. Yes, I said it, laughing about it. Note to self, never buddy up with Yamamoto. Who lets go of someone's hand and doesn't swim to grab it again? Who doesn't alert the others that something might be wrong so they can help? From the start, this didn't make sense. This plane was the last one out that day but why did the airport personnel lock up and go home early? Sure, the small plane didn't need airport employees but the passengers would need somewhere to congregate, grab a snack from the vending machine, use the restroom and have the business radio answered until official closing time. The airport site specifically states people enjoy coming out just to watch planes so why was there no one there to wave at them on take off? Where were the people who drove the passengers to the airport? One would think that Fuddy, the island's Honorary Mayor, would have at least the pastor, or whomever drove them, care enough to see her off safely. But, no, somehow every passenger was dumped at a deserted airport so there were no witnesses. Notice, too, how fast Gov. "I was there" Pot Head shut up about the BC question he promised to solve.
55 posted on 10/29/2014 9:38:20 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: saleman

Here’s a clip from the link. Interestring to say the least.
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“Riddle me this. The small plane you are riding in has to make an emergency ocean landing right off of Kalaupapa Peninsula in Hawaii. 1 Video taken by one of the passengers shows that it is a relatively smooth landing.2 No one is really hurt, there are a few minor injuries.3

All nine of you calmly make your way out of the aircraft and don your life jackets. You are floating in approximately 70 degree water 4 between 100-200 yards from shore. Within minutes, an aircraft circles overhead so you know you’ve been spotted.5 The weather is clear, winds are 10-15 MPH, swells are about six feet and water occasionally splashes your face. For at least 25 minutes, you manage to stay in a group but after the plane starts to sink, you begin to drift apart. Two here, two there. One man swims ashore. You can see and hear the rescue helicopters. Yes it was a terrifying ordeal but you made it out safely, you are floating in a life jacket, holding on to the hand of your friend and co-worker, and help is on the way. Then, inexplicably, with your life jacket still on, you drown. No one else drowns, just you. Not only do you drown, but no one sees you drown, not even the man who has been holding your hand. And, once you lost consciousness or died, your friend lets go of you and you float away, out into the ocean. How did you drown? Why didn’t anyone see you drowning? And why did your friend let you drift away?”


56 posted on 10/29/2014 9:39:19 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepuplic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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