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To: silverleaf

“I just can’t buy such an elaborate murder plot as crashing a small plane with all those people aboard one of whom then killed her. Really?

I think she died of combo of fright and inhaled/swallowed too much water”

What is so bizarre about faking a death certificate after organizing a non-fatal plane crush and coordinating it with assassin divers in order to kill a low level bureaucrat to silence her because a couple of lunatics on the internet think she forged Obama’s birth certificate which a couple of lunatics on the internet thinks is fake which a couple of lunatics on the internet think will somehow get him removed from office? Huh? What is so CRAZY about this perfectly reasonable and logical theory?


75 posted on 10/29/2014 10:31:04 AM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: BurningOak
Hey the DU is the other way. You made a right turn insted of left. Don't let us slow you up. In other words go away.
76 posted on 10/29/2014 10:46:16 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepuplic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: BurningOak

So what is your theory then. That she drowned or died from cardiac arrhythmia? You can’t say she drowned cause that would, apparently, make you a nut. So you believe that she died of Cardiac Arrhythmia?

This from the Mayo clinic: Heart rhythm problems (heart arrhythmias) occur when the electrical impulses that coordinate your heartbeats don’t work properly, causing your heart to beat too fast, too slow or irregularly.

Heart arrhythmias (uh-RITH-me-uhs) may feel like a fluttering or racing heart and may be harmless.

Heart arrhythmia treatment can often control or eliminate fast or irregular heartbeats. In addition, because troublesome heart arrhythmias are often made worse — or are even caused — by a weak or damaged heart, you may be able to reduce your arrhythmia risk by adopting a heart-healthy lifestyle.

From what the Mayo clinic says, and I guess they could be wrong, you don’t die of heart arrhythmias.

I know..”However, some heart arrhythmias may cause bothersome — sometimes even life-threatening — signs and symptoms.” So just to get that out of the way. You could die of cardic arrest in some cases. In that case the cause of death would be cardic arrest. Not Arrhythmia. Which unfortunately is what the M.E. says. Not me. The M.E.

So since cause of death cannot be what the M.E. said then what are you gonna believe?


77 posted on 10/29/2014 10:52:39 AM PDT by saleman (?)
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To: BurningOak

I don’t think that there is anything unusual about an initial police statement saying that drowning was the cause of death in an ocean emergency landing and then, after a complete autopsy, diagnosing the cause of death as cardiac arrhythmia.
Falling out of the sky and into the ocean can be stressful.

Arrhythmias are often harmless. Only a doctor can rule out heart disease. Many arrhythmias have little to no effect on the heart and can occur in people who are healthy.

But arrhythmias are often a trigger for an anxiety condition that directly relates to heart fears: panic attacks. Arrhythmias are common panic attack triggers, and anxiety and stress increase the likelihood of arrhythmias. One of the theories for how people experience their first panic attack is that during times of stress, their heart suffers from arrhythmia and the person – who has never experienced a panic attack before – thinks something is terribly wrong and suffers from extreme anxiety and panic as a result.
The initial newspaper reports on this plane crash said that Loretta Fuddy’s Deputy Keith Yamamoto, the person who held her hand while in the life vests, tried to “calm her down.” [”Fuddy was clinging to the hand of her deputy, Keith Yamamoto, who tried to help her relax, according to the Rev. Patrick Killilea, who consoled Yamamoto after the crash.”—Associated Press]

Anxiety can actively cause arrhythmia. But despite that it’s not clear why. It’s known that a person’s heartbeat may speed up during times of stress as a result of the fight or flight system, but an arrhythmia tends to be much more sudden and doesn’t always come during times of intense anxiety.

Most likely an arrhythmia occurs as a response to sudden and unexpected adrenaline that your body creates when it’s stressed. It may also be due to tense muscles or nerve firings that may react to the way a person feels mentally. Studies have shown that somehow those with anxiety are more prone to extra muscle contractions of the heart, leading to arrhythmia. Unfortunately, there are few studies of the exact mechanism for how this occurs.

It should also be noted that hyperventilation, which occurs during panic attacks, may also lead to arrhythmia.

Yes, Loretta Fuddy may have been murdered in an elaborate conspiratorial plot. But she also may have died naturally from sudden cardiac arrest that was stress induced by a small plane crash into the Pacific Ocean.

From KHON, Channel 2 in Honolulu, March 14, 2014:
“Official autopsy results for late state health director Loretta Fuddy reveal she was a poor swimmer and never swam in ocean waters.

Fuddy was one of nine people on board a Cessna plane, Makani Kai Air, when it lost power and crashed into the water off Kalaupapa, Molokai last December. Fuddy died from acute cardiac arrhythmia, or an irregular heartbeat, due to hyperventilation.

According to the report, witnesses saw Fuddy exit the aircraft with her flotation device and was “markedly afraid” while waiting for rescue personnel to arrive. She was pronounced dead after being brought to shore.

The report says reported ocean conditions included relatively calm five-foot waves that occasionally splashed over the face of the crash victims as they awaited rescue.


81 posted on 10/29/2014 11:22:28 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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