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To: Peter Gunn
If Trump's intention is to warn the media -- and I seriously doubt that it is -- he is wasting his time. Doing so would be equivalent to warning the Pope that there is no God, or warning Richard Dawkins that there is one.

This is the problem altogether too many of us in conservative circles have: we believe that argumentation will have some effect on our opposition, but there is literally no point in "arguing" with someone whose ideology is not factually based, and is, instead, a religion.

I'm not alt-Right myself, and neither is Steve Bannon, but he reads the alt-Right and has provided some platform for them at times, and I would say one of the few things Vox Day has completely correct is: it is pointless to have logical arguments with (or issue fact-based warnings to) raw emoters. Emoters must be dealt with by entirely rhetorical means.

And this is what I think Trump is doing. He is making an excellent rhetorical presentation, and it is not aimed at the priests, or their choirs and acolytes. He is targeting those naturally (that is emotionally) inclined to their positions that we can persuade.

12 posted on 02/18/2017 11:32:26 AM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come 'round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: FredZarguna

I understand your point. A close friend pointed out to me that my primary personal failing is that I assume others are like me (rational, well mannered, polite, kind, etc).

Yes, President Trump is speaking to those he can persuade. I have been one of those.

I see him as wanting to lay out a very simple argument for what is about to happen with some media outlets. I warned you, I told you flat out the news was fake. I told you that the leaks and your role in the leaks was illegal. You persisted. You lose.


22 posted on 02/18/2017 12:03:17 PM PST by Peter Gunn
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